Paul Frazer, Never or Nothing Surroundscapes

Never Not Nothing have been described as anarchic electro psych punk noise, and Paul Frazer, one half of the band describes how it came into being with a unique launch event for industry insiders. We move on to talk about how the band progressed and then dealt with the pandemic lockdown by creating an immersive sound and sight stage in order to make compelling videos. We finish by talking about the use of haptic suits, in-ear monitors and VR glasses to create the live events of the future. Along the way we learn how the band changed its original name from Black Futures in order to allow that phrase to be used by the Black Lives Matter movement without confusion.