scaleUP with HaloPSA and Scalable

HaloPSA and Scalable
scaleUP with HaloPSA and Scalable

This podcast is your go-to source for expert advice tailored specifically for the Managed Service Providers community. Join us, as HaloPSA and Scalable unite to share valuable tips and strategies, designed to help you build the MSP you deserve.

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  1. 8 JAN.

    Consistency, Community and Growth: Proven Sales Strategies for MSPs with Tracie Orisko from Huntress

    In this podcast, Tracie Orisko from Huntress, Darren from Scalable and Tim from HaloPSA discuss effective sales strategies for MSPs.  Tracie highlights the importance of community and consistency in sales, emphasising her role in “surprise and delight” for partners and building seamless entry points for MSPs. She recounts her accidental start in the MSP space, transitioning from cold-calling to founding Managed Sales Pros, which grew into a top lead generation engine before integrating with Huntress. The discussion focuses on overcoming challenges small MSPs face when building a sales engine. Tracie underscores the need for consistency, stating that it takes 90 days to see results from cold outreach. Her advice for small businesses is to start with phone calls, ask open-ended questions, and document findings to identify target markets. The importance of a scalable process and structured follow-ups - combining calls, emails, and digital marketing is emphasised to nurture leads over time. Tim and Tracie discuss scaling sales teams, with Tracie stressing the value of hiring cultural fits with service-oriented attitudes. She advocates for clear career progression paths, documentation, and mentorship to ensure team growth. Tim shares Halo’s strategy of hiring and promoting internally, prioritising personality over experience. The podcast concludes with key takeaways: consistency in outreach and marketing, building strong teams through intentional hiring, and fostering a community that drives referrals.  Timestamps: • Introduction and Tracie’s Journey (0:00 - 4:00) Tracie shares her journey into the MSP space, starting with accidental cold-calling and building Managed Sales Pros into a lead generation leader. • Overcoming Sales Challenges for MSPs (4:01 - 12:00) Tracie and Darren discuss the need for consistency in outreach, building a prospecting engine, and nurturing leads for long-term success. • Scaling Sales Teams Effectively (12:01 - 20:00) The focus shifts to hiring strategies, including finding cultural fits, creating scalable processes, and mentoring teams to support business growth. • Community and Referral Strategies (20:01 - 28:00) Tim and Tracie highlight the importance of community-building, leveraging client referrals, and creating intentional networking opportunities to drive trust and sales. • Key Takeaways and Final Thoughts (28:01 - 36:06) The speakers emphasise consistency, hiring the right people, and fostering strong community relationships as cornerstones for sustainable growth.   Never miss an episode! Subscribe to our podcast now to get early access to the latest insights and strategies for MSP success.   Connect with us:  Scalable Find out more about Scalable: ⁠https://www.scalablemsp.co.uk/⁠ • Connect with Darren on LinkedIn:⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/darren-strong/⁠ • Follow Scalable on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/scalable-msp/⁠ • Subscribe to Scalable’s YouTube channel:⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOvzDJxslhks8LbaZQzOb7g⁠   HaloPSA • Find out more about HaloPSA:⁠https://halopsa.com/⁠   • Connect with Tim Bowers on LinkedIn:⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/halotimbowers/⁠ • Follow HaloPSA on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/halopsa/⁠ • Subscribe to HaloPSA’s YouTube channel:⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm_FvVJl62V0p6ssWpWrQ5w⁠ Tracie Orisko • Connect with Tracie on LinkedIn:   ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracie-orisko/⁠ • Find out more about Huntress:⁠ https://www.huntress.com/⁠

    36 min
  2. 11-12-2024

    AI vs Automation: Cutting Through the Fog for MSPs

    In this episode, Darren Strong, founder of Scalable and Mit Patel, founder, and former owner of London-based MSP, Netstar, sat down with and Morgan Aspinall, Head of Product at HaloPSA, to delve into the hot topic of AI versus automation and how you as an MSP can cut through the fog.  The podcast explores the evolving role of artificial intelligence (AI) and automation in MSPs, emphasising their distinct capabilities and potential benefits. They highlight how AI, often mistaken for automation, is primarily a sophisticated tool for organising and analysing vast data, like an enhanced search engine. They contrast this with automation, which executes predefined tasks consistently, underscoring the challenges and opportunities in integrating these technologies effectively. Key discussion points include the tendency of MSPs to adopt new "shiny" tools without fully understanding their application, and the need for a structured evaluation process to ensure tools align with business needs and deliver value. The speakers stress that MSPs should focus first on refining automation, addressing mundane, repetitive tasks, and leveraging AI to enhance contextual understanding and efficiency where automation falls short. The conversation also addresses AI's potential to transform industries by increasing operational efficiency and reducing mundane workloads, thereby enabling employees to focus on more impactful roles. They caution, however, about data privacy concerns and emphasise the importance of secure and ethical AI usage. MSPs are encouraged to clean and standardise their data to maximise AI's future benefits. Lastly, the hosts foresee AI's role in improving customer interactions, enabling self-service, and facilitating better SLA management, while maintaining human-centric customer service. They advocate for intentional tool adoption, emphasising that AI is a tool—not a solution—to augment, not replace, human capability. Timestamps: 0:00 - Introduction to AI and Automation: 3:00 - AI vs. Automation in MSPs 9:00 - Practical Use Cases and Cautionary Insights 18:00 - AI's Impact on MSP Operations 31:04 - Mit talks about his Robot Mop 34:08 - Key Insights and Looking Forward: How AI can add value for MSPs’ customers.  Never miss an episode! Subscribe to our podcast now to get early access to the latest insights and strategies for MSP success. Connect with us: Scalable • Find out more about Scalable: https://www.scalablemsp.co.uk/ • Connect with Darren on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darren-strong/ • Follow Scalable on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/scalable-msp/ • Subscribe to Scalable’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOvzDJxslhks8LbaZQzOb7g HaloPSA • Find out more about HaloPSA: https://halopsa.com/ • Connect with Morgan Aspinall on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/morgan-aspinall-314b42153/ • Follow HaloPSA on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/halopsa/ • Subscribe to HaloPSA’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm_FvVJl62V0p6ssWpWrQ5w Mit Patel • Connect with Mit on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mit-patel-7334ba

    40 min
  3. 07-11-2024

    The Game-Changing MSP Shift: Leveraging Your Tech Background to Lead Sales and Build a Pipeline

    In this episode, Darren Strong, founder of Scalable and Mit Patel, founder, and former owner of London-based MSP, Netstar, sat down with Tim Barton-Wines, Chief Commercial Officer at Halo Service Solutions, to deep dive into the unique journey of transforming technical MSP founders into effective sales leaders. Many MSPs start as tech experts with a passion for IT solutions but lack the commercial drive to sell effectively. Our guests share insights on transitioning from a technical focus to a sales mindset, breaking down each step from finding prospects to securing loyal clients . Drawing from years of experience, Mit, Darren and Tim discuss how MSPs can bridge the gap between technical knowledge and client communication, especially when sales doesn’t come naturally. They highlight the importance of intentional growth, understanding customer needs, and building rapport, likening successful sales to a doctor-patient relationship—where expertise fosters trust and confidence. Learn how to implement a structured sales process, use effective follow-ups, and make use of data-driven tools to track leads and maintain momentum. Whether you're an MSP looking to grow or a technical founder navigating the challenges of sales, this episode offers practical advice and actionable tips for enhancing customer acquisition, driving revenue, and ensuring long-term success. 0:00 - Introduction to Sales for MSPs: The challenge of shifting a technical MSP toward a sales-focused approach. Common scaling hurdles for small MSPs. Moving from “break/fix” work to a standardised service model.  06:00 - Sales Process & Lead Generation: Lead generation techniques, comparing effective and ineffective sales processes. Digital marketing and consistent follow-up are key themes, with persistence seen as essential for generating leads.  30:00 - Structuring the Sales Cycle: Managing the sales cycle, from the first contact to closing. Using CRM systems, scheduling tools, and regular follow-ups help keep prospects engaged and moving forward.  54:00 - Final Takeaways: The importance of refining current sales processes before adding new tactics and focussing on building strong sales foundations, gradually improving existing strategies.  Never miss an episode! Subscribe to our podcast now to get early access to the latest insights and strategies for MSP success. Connect with us:  Scalable  • Find out more about Scalable: https://www.scalablemsp.co.uk/ • Connect with Darren on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/darren-strong/ • Follow Scalable on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/scalable-msp/ • Subscribe to Scalable’s YouTube channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOvzDJxslhks8LbaZQzOb7g HaloPSA • Find out more about HaloPSA: https://halopsa.com/   • Connect with Tim Barton-Wines on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tim-barton-wines • Follow HaloPSA on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/halopsa/ • Subscribe to HaloPSA’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm_FvVJl62V0p6ssWpWrQ5w   Mit Patel  • Connect with Mit on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mit-patel-7334ba

    55 min
  4. 02-10-2024

    Not Selling Out: The Secret to Halo's Success with Paul Hamilton

    In this episode, Darren Strong, founder of Scalable and Mit Patel, founder, and former owner of London-based MSP, Netstar, sat down with and Paul Hamilton, CEO of Halo, to delve into the hot topic of mergers and acquisitions (M&A) in the managed service provider (MSP) market. With many MSPs considering selling their businesses, Paul shares his unconventional approach of focusing on long-term growth rather than selling. His philosophy revolves around creating lasting success by retaining full ownership and avoiding the pressure of short-term financial gains from M&A. Paul emphasises the importance of long-term thinking, explaining that Halo’s DNA is built on efficient, frugal operations, and fostering a culture of trust, leadership, and internal promotions. Throughout the episode, Paul details Halo’s strategic decision to avoid selling for at least ten years, a move that contrasts with the prevailing industry mindset. He explains how Halo has built its success through organic growth, maintaining high profit margins, and building a team of "mini CEOs" who take ownership and leadership within the company. This strategy has enabled him to maintain work-life balance while driving Halo’s impressive 100% year-over-year growth for seven consecutive years. The conversation also touches on the broader implications for MSPs considering their next steps. Paul suggests that instead of selling, MSPs should focus on empowering their teams, developing leaders, and delegating responsibilities. By doing so, MSP owners can avoid burnout and continue to grow their businesses sustainably. The episode concludes with key takeaways about the power of team culture, trust, and long-term vision in driving business success, with Paul’s final thoughts on how empowering people is central to his leadership philosophy. Timestamps: 00:00 Long-Term Investment in People and Culture. Paul advocates for long-term investment in people and culture, creating a sustainable business model that doesn't rely on selling as a success metric. 15:55 Strategic Focus and Leadership. In 2017, Paul realised Halo needed strategic focus and brought in leaders for different product lines. He emphasises the importance of trust, delegation, and fostering a positive, collaborative work environment for growth. 27:41 Maintaining Purpose and Joy. Paul notes that many MSP owners lose passion and feel pressured to sell but often regret it, as money doesn’t bring lasting fulfilment. He emphasises maintaining purpose and joy through strong leadership delegation and a positive work culture. 41:21 Advantages of Internal Ownership. Paul trusts his team, delegating fully to foster growth. Halo's advantages over private equity-owned companies are: strong internal culture, fast decision-making, long-term customer focus. Success comes from having the right people and enjoying the journey.  51:42 Team Mentality and Startup Mindset. Paul emphasises unity, trust, and delegation, fostering a strong team mentality. He values a startup mindset, investing in employees, and ensuring everyone feels part of the company's mission as it grows. Never miss an episode! Subscribe to our podcast now to get early access to the latest insights and strategies for MSP success. Connect with us:  Scalable Find out more about Scalable: ⁠https://www.scalablemsp.co.uk/⁠ Connect with Darren on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/darren-strong/⁠ Follow Scalable on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/scalable-msp/⁠ Subscribe to Scalable’s YouTube channel:⁠ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOvzDJxslhks8LbaZQzOb7g⁠ HaloPSA • Find out more about HaloPSA: https://halopsa.com/   • Connect with Paul Hamilton on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-hamilton-halo/ • Follow HaloPSA on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/halopsa/ • Subscribe to HaloPSA’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm_FvVJl62V0p6ssWpWrQ5w • Connect with Mit on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mit-patel-7334ba

    1u 2m
  5. 06-08-2024

    Using KPIs to Propel MSP Growth

    In this episode, Darren Strong, founder of Scalable, and Morgan Aspinall, Product Manager of HaloPSA, are joined by Mit Patel, founder, and former owner of London-based MSP, Netstar. The lively discussion focusses on the strategic use of data to drive business performance in Managed Service Providers. The conversation explores the importance of setting clear, long-term business objectives and utilising key performance indicators to monitor progress effectively. They emphasise the need for streamlined data dashboards that enhance decision-making capabilities across the organisation, stressing that KPIs should be manageable in number and tailored to individual and departmental roles to ensure meaningful impact. The episode provides insights into best practices for MSPs, such as how to avoid "KPI chaos" by limiting the number of metrics and ensuring they are actionable and relevant to the specific functions within the company. The discussion also covers how MSPs can improve operational efficiency and profitability by adopting a data-driven approach that aligns team efforts with broader business goals. Practical advice is offered on maintaining operational maturity while growing revenue and profitability, and the significance of understanding the 'why' behind the data to foster team engagement and effectiveness. Timestamps: Introduction and discussion around data-driven performance in MSPs: 0:01 - 0:43 Emphasis on the role of data and KPIs in driving high-performing MSPs: 0:44 - 2:25 Key processes MSPs should focus on, particularly in financial management: 2:26 - 3:00 Explanation of "best in class" benchmarks and their significance: 3:01 - 5:59 Importance of accurate data in business decisions and performance evaluation: 6:00 -10:03 Challenges and manipulation of CSAT scores in gauging customer satisfaction: 10:04 -18:06 Discussion on optimising the number of KPIs to avoid "KPI chaos": 18:07 - 32:07 Summary of episode's key takeaways and closing remarks: 32:08 - 33:17 Never miss an episode! Subscribe to our podcast now to get early access to the latest insights and strategies for MSP success. Helpful Links: Employee Retention 101: How to Build a Loyal MSP Business - https://www.scalablemsp.co.uk/employee-retention-101-how-to-build-a-loyal-msp-business/ Employee Retention Handbook - https://www.scalablemsp.co.uk/employee-retention-handbook-form-submission/ Connect with us: Scalable Find out more about Scalable: https://www.scalablemsp.co.uk/ Connect with Darren on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/darren-strong/ Follow Scalable on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/scalable-msp/ Subscribe to Scalable’s YouTube channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOvzDJxslhks8LbaZQzOb7g HaloPSA Find out more about HaloPSA:https://halopsa.com/ Connect with Morgan on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/morgan-aspinall-314b42153/ Follow HaloPSA on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/halopsa/ Subscribe to HaloPSA’s YouTube channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm_FvVJl62V0p6ssWpWrQ5w Mit Patel Connect with Mit on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mit-patel-7334ba

    33 min
  6. 03-07-2024

    The Hidden Costs of Bad Culture in MSPs

    In this episode, Darren Strong, the Founder of Scalable sits down with Morgan Aspinall, the Product Manager of HaloPSA to explore the crucial role of culture in Managed Service Providers and how it directly impacts profitability. Darren shares how a positive culture that prioritises people can lead to happier clients and a more successful business. The right culture attracts the right customers, and passionate employees deliver exceptional service, boosting overall profitability. Morgan and Darren discuss the importance of being clear about your culture and values, hiring people who fit, and providing a robust onboarding process that goes beyond technical skills. They emphasise the need to define clear values and integrate them into every decision-making process to ensure everyone in the team is aligned and working towards the same goals. They address the importance of proactive hiring and development, and how planning ahead and investing in training and mentoring can develop internal talent and promote from within. Morgan and Darren highlight how spending time with your team, understanding their needs, and providing support is key. By delegating effectively, leaders can focus on strategic growth rather than getting bogged down in daily firefighting. Timestamps: The Impact of Culture on Profitability – 00:10 Defining a Good Culture – 01:24 Proactive vs. Reactive Hiring Strategies – 10:14 Importance of Clear Role Definition – 16:10 Ideal Mix of A Players and Others – 19:49 Identifying and Fixing a Bad Culture 24:47 Avoiding Over-Reliance on the Owner – 30:31 Never miss an episode! Subscribe to our podcast now to get early access to the latest insights and strategies for MSP success. Helpful Links: Employee Retention 101: How to Build a Loyal MSP Business - https://www.scalablemsp.co.uk/employee-retention-101-how-to-build-a-loyal-msp-business/ Employee Retention Handbook - https://www.scalablemsp.co.uk/employee-retention-handbook-form-submission/ Connect with us: Find out more about Scalable: https://www.scalablemsp.co.uk/ Connect with Darren on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darren-strong/ Follow Scalable on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/scalable-msp/ Subscribe to Scalable’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOvzDJxslhks8LbaZQzOb7g Find out more about HaloPSA: https://halopsa.com/ Connect with Morgan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/morgan-aspinall-314b42153/ Follow HaloPSA on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/halopsa/ Subscribe to HaloPSA’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm_FvVJl62V0p6ssWpWrQ5w

    35 min
  7. 04-06-2024

    Mit Patel: Revealing His Secrets to MSP Growth

    In this episode, recorded at Halo House, Darren Strong, the Founder of Scalable sits down with Morgan Aspinall, the Product Manager of HaloPSA. They are joined by their guest, Mit Patel, founder, and former owner of London-based MSP, Netstar. Mit founded Netstar in 2002 at the age of 20, and successfully grew the business to become an industry leading MSP with a 60 strong team. Netstar experienced impressive growth, averaging around 25% Year on Year, for a 19-year period. Following his successful exit of Netstar in 2021, Mit has remained actively engaged in the MSP community. He is an active Investor, Speaker, and Non-Executive Director and Advisor within the MSP space. A forward-thinker, with a proven track record, Mit has achieved his successes as a result of powerful self-motivation. In this episode, Mit shares insights from his journey, highlighting the challenges and lessons learned along the way. He delves into the common hurdles MSPs face in revenue growth and stresses the importance of intentionality and strategic planning. Mit emphasises the need for aligning decisions with long-term growth objectives and advises against reactive or stagnant approaches. The conversation shifts to defining revenue targets and growth percentages, with Mit advocating for a backward planning approach. He outlines practical steps for revenue growth, focusing on leveraging existing client relationships and exploring new service offerings. The discussion extends to client selection strategies, effective lead generation, and structuring a sales team for effective revenue generation. Mit shares his views on building and structuring a sales team, emphasising the transition from technical roles to sales-focused roles and the importance of attitude and aptitude. The conversation also explores the importance of delegating responsibilities and creating a structured sales process. The episode focuses on data-driven sales management, emphasising the importance of tracking key performance indicators (KPIs) and accurate forecasting. Mit, Morgan and Darren discuss the significance of leading indicators in predicting sales success and fostering accountability. 0:00 Mit Patel's Journey and Challenges 1:16 Strategic Planning, Defining Revenue Targets and Growth Strategies 8:15 Building and Managing Successful Sales Teams 22:04 Data-Driven Sales Management and Forecasting 28:00 Sales Accountability, Communication and Execution Never miss an episode! Subscribe to our podcast now to get early access to the latest insights and strategies for MSP success. Connect with us: - Connect with Mit on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mit-patel-7334ba/ - Find out more about Scalable: https://www.scalablemsp.co.uk/ - Connect with Darren on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darren-strong/ - Follow Scalable on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/scalable-msp/ - Subscribe to Scalable’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@scalable-msp - Find out more about HaloPSA:https://halopsa.com/ - Connect with Morgan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/morgan-aspinall-314b42153/ - Follow HaloPSA on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/halopsa/ - Subscribe to HaloPSA’s YouTube channel:https://www.youtube.com/@halopsa

    37 min
  8. 30-04-2024

    Beyond the Bottom Line: Planning for Profitability

    In the first episode, Darren Strong, the Founder of Scalable sits down with Tim Bowers, the CEO of HaloPSA, to explore the crucial topic of profitability and how to effectively track it within your business. Darren stresses the importance of intentional planning, urging MSPs to start their financial year with clear objectives and strategies to ensure profitability. He introduces the ‘Rule of 78,’ a method for setting monthly recurring revenue growth targets, and highlights the importance of clear communication to align everyone in your business towards the same goals. Tim offers a unique take on profitability, highlighting the journey-driven approach at HaloPSA. Instead of treating profitability as a fixed endpoint, Tim advocates for a continuous journey towards growth and efficiency. He stresses the importance of grasping how profitability varies across different business models, emphasising the value of operational gains and a positive workplace culture for sustained success. Throughout this podcast, Darren and Tim explore practical strategies for increasing profitability, from optimising technology stacks to fostering a culture of efficiency and accountability. They highlight the importance of data-driven decision-making as well as celebrating success within your business. 0:00 Intro 0:52 Intentional Planning 2:04 Rule of 78 2:59 Journey-Driven Approach 4:20 Operational Gains and Culture Change 11:30 Taking a Step Back 13:12 Technology and Data 18:35 Empowering Your Team 21:30 Outro Never miss an episode! Subscribe to our podcast now to get early access to the latest insights and strategies for MSP success. To access your own copy of the Rule of 78 (MRR Tracker), click here: https://www.scalablemsp.co.uk/monthly-recurring-revenue-tracker/ Connect with us: - Find out more about Scalable: https://www.scalablemsp.co.uk/ - Connect with Darren on LinkedIn:   / darren-strong   - Follow Scalable on LinkedIn:   / scalable-msp   - Subscribe to Scalable’s YouTube channel:    / @scalable-msp   - Find out more about HaloPSA:https://halopsa.com/ - Connect with Tim on LinkedIn:   / halotimbowers   - Follow HaloPSA on LinkedIn:   / halopsa   - Subscribe to HaloPSA’s YouTube channel:    / @halopsa

    22 min

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