Service Design Show

Service Design Show
Service Design Show

Go beyond the basics of service design and learn what it truly takes to deliver services that make a positive impact on people, business and planet.

  1. A Service Design Guide to Small Wins and Big Change / Inside Service Design / Ep. #04

    10 HR AGO

    A Service Design Guide to Small Wins and Big Change / Inside Service Design / Ep. #04

    As a service design professional, what is your primary role...!? Are you the host who sets the table for collaboration and creates a safe space for everyone? Or are you maybe a trusted advisor, working quietly behind the scenes to help stakeholders make better decisions? Well, what if the answer is... both? This tension between hosting and advising is at the heart of the latest Inside Service Design episode, in which we explore the real, unpolished practice of driving change from within organizations. In this episode, we have a great conversation with two seasoned professionals, Seth Campbell and Phil LaDeur, who bring some honest perspectives to the table. Phil shares how we can create the perfect conditions for collaboration and influence by drawing inspiration from the concept of "Unreasonable Hospitality". And Seth talks about the importance of patience, humility, and the art of giving away choices to empower your team and build long-term trust. This is one of those episodes where you get a true peek behind the curtains and hear how other service design professionals are approaching their work. So, if you're ready to discover new ways that will help you move the needle inside your organization, this one is for you! I'm curious, in your current role, do you feel more like a "host" or an "advisor"? Leave a comment on the episode and let me know. I'd love to hear which role resonates more with you. Enjoy the conversation! Be well, ~ Marc --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to the June Round Up 04:30 Phil's Journey to Service Design 06:45 How Seth started his role 11:00 The Challenges and what Seth actually does 13:00 Service Design in a Faith-Based Organization 17:00 Defining success in service design 20:30 Seth's Personal Success Metric 24:45 Phil: Small Wins & Feedback" 26:00 The Circle's "Dinner Table" Discussions 28:00 Hospitality as Influence (Phil) 30:00 Theatrics of Design (Seth) 35:00 Overcoming Time Blocks 37:30 Phil's "Restaurant" Framework 41:30 Seth: Hard-Earned Lessons 45:45 The Caboose of a project 46:00 Phil: Learning Organization Horizon 49:30 Investing in Relationships 51:30 Seth: Essential Service Design Skills 53:30 Secret Weapon: Snacks! 54:45 Phil: Skills for Impact 57:30 Questions for Service design professionals --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- https://www.linkedin.com/in/seth-campbell/https://www.linkedin.com/in/phillip-ladeur/ --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle [4. FIND THE SHOW ON] Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-04-youtube Spotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-04-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-04-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-04-snipd

    1h 1m
  2. How to Create Change That Actually Sticks / Jen Briselli / Ep. #231

    3 JUL

    How to Create Change That Actually Sticks / Jen Briselli / Ep. #231

    What's the last time you did something you didn't know how to do... For me, it was last week when I took up the idea of building custom Cornhole boards (fun and addictive sport, look it up) with my kids. My woodworking skills are limited, at best. And that's one of the reasons I decided to take on this project. I can tell you, now in the midst of the process, that I've already made a dozen small mistakes. However, going out of my comfort zone and doing something for the first time is weirdly what gives me a great sense of joy and satisfaction. Next to having my own custom Cornhole boards at the end of this project I'm sure that the skills, experience and knowledge I'll have gained will be useful somewhere further down the line. So in my personal life, I try to create a lot of space for these types of projects. (Sometimes a bit too much space if you ask my wife.) But what if the environment you're in is explicitly designed to stay in its comfort zone... as much as possible? The reality is that most of the organizations we work with as service design professionals are exactly just that. They are designed to keep things stable, controllable, and predictable. The incentives are basically to keep doing what we've been doing, but just do it faster and cheaper. So for us, who are in the business of experimenting and trying things out in order to drive positive change, that's a serious problem. It's easy to become frustrated with the organization's lack of risk-taking. Fortunately, there are more productive things that you can do instead of getting frustrated. Yes, even in those situations where the appetite for risk-taking feels non-existent. In this episode, we chat with ​Jen Briselli​, who's an expert at growing a learning, adaptive, and dare I say even a bit more playful mindset within organizations. As all change starts within ourselves, we explore what you can do to increase your appetite for risk and uncertainty. We explore ways to be more adaptable, even in systems designed to resist change. And why breaking through some of the common roadblocks in order to be more playful might not be as hard as you think. This is a great conversation for anyone who wants to drive change with more impact and ease. Ready to jump in? One of the insights that stuck with me is that we have more agency than we often think to shake things up a bit inside organizations. We're active participants in these systems, not passive bystanders, and everything we do has a ripple effect. Enjoy and keep making a positive impact! ~ Marc --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to episode 231 05:00 Designing Conditions for Emergence 07:00 A Shift in Receptivity 09:00 Jen's Professional Journey & Inspirations 11:00 Jen's Unique Path 18:00 Why Systems Resist Change 24:00 Creating Space and Slack 26:00 The Nature of Adaptive Capacity 29:00 "Wedge in the Door" & "Doorknob Moments" 36:00 Observing Adaptive Behaviors 40:00 Embracing the Disorienting Dilemma 45:30 Confidence in Navigation 52:45 Play, Risk, and Surviving Existential Threats 56:30 Small Actions, Big Impact 58:30 Key Takeaway: "But Did You Die?" 1:00:00 Creative destruction 1:01:45 Reflection Question 1:02:00 Connect with Jen Briselli --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jbriselli/ https://www.topologyinsight.com/ --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle ---[ 4. FIND THE SHOW ON ] --- YouTube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/231-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/231-youtubeApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/231-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/231-snipd

    1h 10m
  3. Beyond the Draft: Adding Richness and Reliability to Your AI Journey Map

    26 JUN

    Beyond the Draft: Adding Richness and Reliability to Your AI Journey Map

    What does it take to spend more of your time creating real impact... That's the central question we're exploring in our Journey Management Playbook series. In the last episode, we did something pretty amazing: we took a pile of raw data and, with a click of a button, watched AI generate a structured journey map in a matter of minutes. I'll admit even though I was a bit skeptical to start with, this felt pretty magical. But the truth is that this first draft is just the beginning. As you have hopefully seen, an AI-generated journey gives you an incredible head start, but it's not yet something you should bet your business on. So, how do you move from this first draft to a decision-making tool you can truly trust? How do you make it yours? That’s exactly where we're going in Episode 4. This is the essential next step. Once again, Tingting and I roll up our sleeves and show you the practical, step-by-step process of: Prioritizing what to tackle first, so you don't get overwhelmed. Verifying AI-generated insights to build confidence. Enriching the journey using properties to add depth. Using filters to focus on what matters most. As you'll see, we're now entering the areas where the power of modern AI-driven journey management truly comes alive. There's still a lot of work for us to do, but AI allows us to focus our time on the areas where we can add the most value. Just like in the previous episodes, we're diving deep inside TheyDo with a lot of screen sharing. If you're listening to the podcast version, I highly recommend having the accompanying slides handy to follow along visually. You can find them in the show notes. Take care, ~ Marc --- [ 1. LINKS ] --- Playbook Slides - https://go.servicedesignshow.com/08gplSign up for TheyDo - https://www.theydo.com/service-design-show --- [ 2. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to Episode 4 01:30 What to expect in the episode 04:00 Service Design Pitfall: Over-Perfection 05:00 TheyDo & Tingting's Introduction 09:00 Previous Episodes Recap 11:00 Diving into AI Journey Scenarios 13:00 Scenario 1: AI Journey Verification 15:00 Prioritizing Insights: Where to Start 24:00 How to verify individual AI insight 25:45 Marc's verification approach 28:00 Managing Supporting Quotes & Splits 33:00 Iterative AI Workflow & Refinement 35:30 Clarifying AI-Generated Details & Sentiment 38:00 Verifying Insight Types 40:45 Adjusting Experience Impact Score 42:30 Understanding Insight Ownership 46:00 Summary of Verification Process 47:00 Batch Editing Insights for Efficiency 49:30 The Power of Tagging & Taxonomy 51:00 Statuses: Tracking Workflow Progress 59:00 Personas: Differentiating User Experiences 1:02:30 AI & Human Collaboration: Not Obsolete 1:03:00 Groups: Engaging Different Teams 1:05:00 Tags: Global Dimensions for Insights 1:07:45 Filtering & Prioritization with Tags 1:10:45 Journey Health Score (Upcoming Feature) 1:11:32 What Makes a Healthy Journey? 1:12:00 What's Next on Episode 5 1:13:00 Audience Q&A 1:15:00 Conclusion & Looking Ahead --- [ 3. FIND THE SHOW ON ] --- YouTube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-04-youtubeApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-04-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-04-snipdOther ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-04-other

    1h 5m
  4. The 'Trojan Horse' Strategy for Sustainable Service Design / James Chudley / Ep. #230

    19 JUN

    The 'Trojan Horse' Strategy for Sustainable Service Design / James Chudley / Ep. #230

    Let's be honest, unfortunately not many business truly cares about sustainable services... The energy debate around AI is finally highlighting digital services' environmental impact. But every service, digital or physical, consumes resources: energy, materials, and even our time. As service designers, we have a moral obligation to design with sustainability at the core. This episode tackles the real challenges: clients not asking, defining "sustainable," and measuring impact. Our guest, James Chudley, shares key lessons and real-world examples from his journey, showing how he integrates sustainability into daily design. Discover what it really takes to design services that are better for customers, better for business, and better for our planet. Plus, uncover a deceptively simple design principle that guarantees more sustainable services. Can you guess what it is? The clue is in this episode. Keep making a positive impact on customers, business, and our planet! --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to Episode 230 05:00 How to define sustainable service 07:30 Are services sustainable? 12:00 James' unique journey 16:00 The Pivotal Decision 22:00 Integrating Sustainability 27:00 The power of minimizing 30:30 Navigating Stakeholder Talks 33:00 can we justify unsustainable services? 34:40 From Sustainable to Regenerative 35:30 Case Study: Circle Community 38:15 Non-Digital Touchpoints 39:57 Avoiding Measurement Paralysis 43:30 Adding a "Sustainability Lane" to Journey Maps 48:30 Principles 42:00 Mental energy 47:30 Community Design Principle Example 54:30 Accessibility in Sustainable Design 55:30 Sustainability as Personal Practice 57:30 the trojan horse 58:30 First Steps for Inspired Designers 1:00:90 Resources 1:02:00 Question to ponder --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- Connect with James Chudley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jameschudley/http://www.jameschudley.co.uk/ James' 'Decarbonising User Journeys' approach to help you pragmatically decarbonise your highest value user journeysDecarbonising User Journeys @ UXGlasgow (Talk)Digital Sustainability Strategy template to help you build a clear, actionable plan for how you are going to minimise the environmental impacts of your digital services Simple Steps You Can Take To Decarbonise Your User JourneysThe principles for the design and delivery of greener servicesBooks: You Can't Make Money From a Dead Planet - Mark ShaylerDesigning for Sustainability - Tim FrickSustainable Web Design - Tom GreenwoodLet My People Go Surfing - Yvon ChouinardDecarbonise Digital - Eric ZieHow To Avoid A Climate Disaster - Bill Gates The Climate Book - Greta Thunberg World Wide Waste - Gerry McGovernClimate product leaders playbook Other Helpful Online Resources: https://sustainablewebdesign.org/https://sustainableuxnetwork.com/ https://www.sustainablewebmanifesto.com/https://designdeclares.com/ W3C Web Sustainability GuidelinesGDS Design PrinciplesGDS Service ManualTalktoFrank - The Government drugs advice websiteGreen Web FoundationWebsite Carbon Calculator EcograderCardamon Website Carbon Calculator --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle

    1h 6m
  5. The Unconventional Design Tools That Move The Needle In-house / Inside Service Design / Ep. #03

    12 JUN

    The Unconventional Design Tools That Move The Needle In-house / Inside Service Design / Ep. #03

    Have you ever thought about... What a therapist, a grandma, and an organ donor teach you about service design? I know, this might sound like the start of a strange joke, but it gets to the heart of a big truth about our work. We invest a lot of time perfecting our journey maps, blueprints, and personas. But as we know, the challenges we work on won't be solved by a deliverable. They're solved through invisible "tools" like subtle influence, creating space for others, and building strategic relationships. So, where do you find these tools? Well, this episode is a great start. This episode is part of our "Inside Service Design" series, where we explore the real, unpolished practice of driving change from within organizations. And just like in the previous episodes you get to hear two brilliant in-house professionals, share some of their most powerful, non-traditional strategies. This time we're joined by Irina Damascan and Gina Mendolia. Gina walks us through her concept of "Setting the Trap" for engagement, and how she draws inspiration from the roles of therapists, coaches, and even grandmas to master the art of creating space and enabling teams to connect the dots themselves. Irina introduces a powerful model for influence she calls the "Organ Donor Chain," a strategic way to build networks of reciprocity by doing "favors" that enable change across the organization, often in unexpected ways. I have to say, it was refreshing to hear about effective mental models that go beyond design-as-usual, which aren't just theories but truly help to design better services. Want to add some (unconventional) tools that help you drive change to your toolkit? Grab your notebook and join us for this conversation. What's the most unconventional place you've found inspiration for your work? Maybe a different profession, a hobby, a movie? Share your inspiration in the comments on YouTube and let's continue the conversation there. Keep making a positive impact! ~ Marc --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to the May Round Up! 05:00 Irina's path to service design 07:45 Gina's service design journey 09:00 Gina defines success 11:00 Irina defines success 17:00 Challenges Gina tackles 19:00 Irina's service design role 24:45 Gina's dinner table session 29:30 Adding inspiration 30:30 Irina's session insights 40:30 Gina's life-simplifying tactics 45:45 In-house misconceptions 51:00 How Gina measures success 56:00 Advice for younger Irina 58:30 Irina shares an example 1:03:00 Gina's motivation 1:04:30 Questions to ponder --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- https://www.linkedin.com/in/irinadamascan/https://www.linkedin.com/in/ginamendolia/ --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle

    1h 9m
  6. Why Your Best Work Goes Unnoticed (and What to Do About It) / Kat Thackray /Ep 229

    5 JUN

    Why Your Best Work Goes Unnoticed (and What to Do About It) / Kat Thackray /Ep 229

    Ever feel like your most crucial work goes unnoticed? Just like the essential "cooling fluid" of a car, much of service design's impact—making teams efficient and processes smooth—operates in the background. But when it's missing, chaos erupts. In this episode, our guest Kat Thackray dive into the invisible, yet vital, work that drives true change in service design. We'll explore why this intangible effort is often overlooked, what it actually looks like in practice, and actionable ways to gain the recognition and resources you deserve. If you're tired of your crucial contributions being taken for granted, this episode is your roadmap to getting that unseen work finally recognized. Enjoy the conversation, and keep making that positive, even if sometimes invisible, impact! ~ Marc --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to Episode 229 04:15 Who is Kat Thackray 05:00 The Consultant's Dilemma 07:45 Kat's "Aha!" Moment: Prioritizing People 10:30 Painful Status Quo of Teamwork 15:00 Why Organizations Overlook "Soft Skills" 19:00 How COVID-19 Shifted Design Focus 21:00 Bridging Strategy & Delivery 26:30 The Need for Team Coaches 29:00 The "Ted Lasso" Effect 32:00 Expanding the Designer's Toolkit 34:45 Jack of All Trades vs Specialized Expert 35:45 Unpacking the "Golden Thread" of Collaboration 40:45 Practical Steps for Healthier Team Dynamics 43:45 Navigating Tricky Power Dynamics 47:45 Recognizing Team Vulnerabilities 51:15 The New Skills Emerging in Design 51:45 Empowering Your Team Members 53:45 Connect & Learn More: Resources 55:15 Kat's Final Advice for Designers 57:15 A Question to Ponder --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/katherinethackrayhttps://the-shift.ghost.io/ https://www.peopleequalspurpose.com/ Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman (Book) --- [ 3. FIND THE SHOW ON ] --- YouTube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/229-youtubeApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/229-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/229-snipdOther (RSS) ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/229-other --- [ 4. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle

    59 min
  7. From Data to Structure: AI Sensemaking For Your Journeys / Journey Management Playbook / Ep. #03

    29 MAY

    From Data to Structure: AI Sensemaking For Your Journeys / Journey Management Playbook / Ep. #03

    It's time to continue our journey... In episode 1 of the Journey Management Playbook we pinpointed a key business challenge that we want to tackle. The focus of episode 2 was all about gathering qualitative and quantitative data to understand the 'what' and the 'why'. But now comes the big question: How do you transform all that valuable material into clear insights and identify the opportunities that will actually make a tangible impact, fast? Where should you even start to make sense of it all and prioritize your efforts? This is where the rubber meets the road, and it's exactly what we address in episode 3. We're diving into the crucial first steps of structuring and scoping. Just like in the past episodes, we're joined again by Tingting Lin from TheyDo, who shows us how to take our raw data and, with AI as our powerful co-pilot, quickly generate an initial, structured journey map. This episode helps you understand how to: Take your raw qualitative data (like survey responses or interview notes) and use AI to generate an initial, structured customer journey map Begin making sense of AI-generated insights by understanding different insight types and how to initially prioritize them. Enrich an existing journey structure with new data using AI, effectively showing how to augment prior work with fresh insights. Our goal with this whole series is to help you use journey management to make tangible impact faster, and as you'll see AI is a great tool to accelerate this process. Important Note: This episode features a lot of screen sharing as we build a journey live inside TheyDo. So to get the most out of it, I highly recommend watching the video version on YouTube or having the accompanying slides (link in the show notes) handy if you're listening to the podcast edition. Enjoy and keep driving that positive change. ~ Marc [ RESOURCES ] Playbook Slides - https://go.servicedesignshow.com/0nz_4Sign up for TheyDo - https://www.theydo.com [ GUIDE ] 00:00 Episode 3: What to Expect 02:30 Introducing Theydo & Tingting's 06:00 The Big Picture 07:30 Episode 2 Recap 08:30 Offboarding Sources 09:30 The Goodbye Email Data 12:00 Working with Unstructured Data 13:30 Miro Board: Structuring Insights 14:30 First Step in Journey Management 15:00 Generating a Journey with AI 18:00 Starting a New Journey in Theydo 20:00 AI-Generated Journey from Scratch 23:00 Enriching an Existing Journey 31:00 Blank Slate 36:00 Collaborating with AI: Verifying Insights 42:00 Check Mapped Insights 46:00 Workspace Insights Overview 49:00 3 Ways Prioritizing Verification 50:00 Prioritizing with Pain, Gain & Observations 51:30 Starting with Pain Points 1:04:00 Bonus Questions from Previous Episode [ RSS LINKS ] 🍿 YouTube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-03-youtube 🎧 Spotify ~https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-03-spotify 🍏 Apple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-03-apple✂️ Snipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-03-snipd🎙️ Other ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-03-other

    1h 7m
  8. Why Good Design FALLS FLAT And How To Fix That / Brad Alphonso / Ep. #228

    22 MAY

    Why Good Design FALLS FLAT And How To Fix That / Brad Alphonso / Ep. #228

    Why does doing good service design often feel like an uphill battle... Okay, I'm on a mission this year to find the best recipe for BBQ Chicken Wings (recommendations are welcome, by the way). Over the weekend, I was experimenting with a new one (I'd give it an 8.5/10), and then it struck me. I can have the most delicious recipe, but if my guests turn out to be vegetarian, we spontaneously decide to go out for dinner, or the kids are just tired of eating chicken again, it won't matter. No one will appreciate my tasty chicken wings, no matter how hard I try. And obviously, the problem isn't with the recipe itself. Well, you might be surprised how often this exact scenario plays out in our work in service design. We pour our hearts and souls into crafting solutions that should create a positive impact on users and our organizations. Yet, somehow, a lot (maybe most?) of these well-designed solutions never actually see the light of day. Is it because they are bad solutions? Assuming you know what you're doing, most likely not. So, there must be something else going on. Are there other critical success factors (like knowing your guests are vegetarian) that we tend to overlook when we're so focused on perfecting the "recipe"? It turns out there are (which probably isn't a huge surprise to many of us). So what are these other success factors? And most importantly, how do we understand them and maybe even turn them in our favour? That's what we discuss in this episode with our returning guest, Brad Alphonso. Brad has led numerous service design initiatives from the initial idea all the way through to implementation inside a large, regulated, and pretty complex organization. He's open about the fact that not all of these initiatives had the impact he hoped for, but over the years, his success rate has gone up significantly. In this episode, we look back and reflect: Was it luck? Was there a magic breakthrough, or did the 'game' itself change somehow for him? So if you want to move the needle with your work, instead of it feeling like a constant struggle, this episode offers important clues – around understanding your organisation's real momentum and how decisions actually get made – that could help you navigate much more effectively. This conversation made me reflect on the fact that I see so many talented service design "players" out there. And I do wonder how many of us are, at times, playing the wrong game... let's try not to be that person. Keep making a positive impact! Take care, ~ Marc --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to Episode 228 04:00 Brad's hopes for the conversation 06:00 Challenges in Brad's role 09:30 Business challenges 11:00 What gives teams headaches 13:00 Service design definition 15:00 Current operating systems 20:30 Importance of service design 24:45 Problem ownership 27:00 Alternative O.S. for solving wicked problems 30:00 Types of tools used 32:00 Strategy document examples 33:00 Three questions to ask your CFO 34:30 What is "good enough"? 36:30 Observing changes in your work 39:45 Tools for clarifying the operating system 42:00 Avoiding naivety 45:00 Winning the 'game' as a toolkit 47:00 What are we missing? 49:00 Obvious next steps - idea to inception 53:00 Why some projects fail 55:00 Pitfall perspective - pre-mortem activity 56:30 Summary of the Alternative O.S. 58:00 Question to ponder --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- https://www.linkedin.com/in/brad-alphonso --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle

    1h 1m
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