The Art Engager

Claire Bown
The Art Engager Podcast

The Art Engager Podcast with Claire Bown is your go-to resource for creating engaging experiences in museums and cultural spaces. Explore practices that deepen connections with art, objects, people and ideas. Learn techniques to spark curiosity, foster dialogue, and transform how you engage with your audience. Each episode offers practical insights to enhance your skills and bring your museum experiences to life.

  1. 27 JUN

    Slow looking and social interaction in museums with Sasha Igdalova

    Today, I'm talking to Sasha Igdalova about the exciting research she’s been conducting over the past few years around aesthetic experience, slow looking and social interaction in museums. Aleksandra (Sasha) Igdalova is an interdisciplinary researcher in the final year of her Psychology PhD at Goldsmiths, University of London conducting large-scale, experimental studies on slow looking within exhibition spaces at Manchester Art Gallery.  Her work investigates how popular engagement strategies may be used to increase aesthetic experience and well-being Listeners to this podcast will know that slow looking has gained in popularity in museums worldwide over the last decade or so. But there hasn’t been much research on its effectiveness, until now. In today's chat, we explore two studies -  the first study to look at the impact of slow looking in an online environment. This study explores how different audio contexts and types of art affect people's moods and engagement levels in online viewing. The second study is the first large-scale experiment to investigate how social interaction impacts the art museum experience. This study took place in Manchester Art Museum’s fabulous dedicated slow looking space known as Room to Breathe.  We discuss the implications of both studies for educators..and so much more! This episode is essential listening for anyone interested in slow looking, aesthetic experiences in museums, and the benefits of group interactions for overall well-being in museum environments. Episode Links:Episode 24 Using art and objects to learn wellbeing skills and improve mental health with Louise Thompson Aleksandra (Sasha) Igdalova Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aleksandra-sasha-igdalova-a66770106/ Website: www.aleksandraigdalova.com  Researchgate profile: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Aleksandra-Igdalova  Articles on slow looking: First ever study examining how social interaction impacts art viewing: https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/x9wrt First ever study looking at slow looking in an experimental manner (online study): https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2023-59333-001  Free access to it here: https://research.gold.ac.uk/id/eprint/33048/9/Igdalova%20&%20Chamberlain%20(2023)%20Slow%20looking%20at%20still%20art.pdf CREA interdisciplinary workshop: www.crea-workshop.com  The Art Engager Links:The Art Engager: Reimagining Guided Experiences in Museums - sign up for the waitlist to hear when my book will be published! Sign up for my Curated newsletter - a fortnightly dose of cultural inspiration Join thea href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/slowlookingclub" rel="noopener...

    49 min
  2. 13 JUN

    Stimulating the senses: using smell to engage visitors

    How can we use our sense of smell to engage visitors? My guest today, Sofia Collette Ehrich is an art historian and curator of multisensory experiences. She was a key researcher on Odeuropa - a European funded Horizon 2020 project that advocated for smell as an important part of Europe’s cultural heritage. We discuss when she first realised her passion for working with scents and how smell can make museum experiences more engaging. We cover her creation of a scent-based tour for Museum Ulm in Germany and a 'Scratch and Sniff' self-guided tour for the Amsterdam Museum. We also look at the Olfactory Storytelling Toolkit, 'smell walks,' and the idea of a 'sniffer in residence.' Sofia shares lots of practical tips for adding olfactory elements to your programmes. If you want to infuse the sense of smell into your practice or incorporate more multisensory approaches into your programmes, you'll learn a lot from this episode. Episode Links:Sofia Collette Ehrich https://sofiaehrich.wordpress.com/ https://thesensesationalexplorer.substack.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/sofia-collette-ehrich/ https://www.instagram.com/thesensesationalexplorer/ Museum Ulm Links: https://odeuropa.eu/2022/04/now-open-follow-your-nose-at-museum-ulm/ https://museumulm.de/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/SELECTION-OF-WORKS-NEW-GUIDED-TOUR-CONCEPT-FOLLOW-YOUR-NOSE-MUSEUM-ULM-1.pdf https://odeuropa.eu/2023/01/update-follow-your-nose/ City Sniffers Links: https://odeuropa.eu/2022/08/launch-of-city-sniffers-a-smell-tour-of-amsterdams-ecohistory/ Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7utP_pAx_E Odeuropa Impact: This is an interesting report about the interviews Cecilia Bembibre conducted with museum professionals who have used smells in GLAMs: https://odeuropa.eu/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/D6_1_Guidelines_on_the_Use_of_Smells_in_GLAMs.pdf Olfactory Storytelling Toolkit: Download it here: https://zenodo.org/records/10254737 Guidelines for conducting an olfactory guided tour here: https://zenodo.org/records/10102080 Guidelines for conducting a smell walk here: https://zenodo.org/records/10101016 A talk Sofia gave for the Swedish Heritage Commission which included many practical examples: a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YByb-wbXw6E" rel="noopener noreferrer"...

    43 min
  3. 30 MAY

    The power of inquiry, curiosity and questioning with Trevor MacKenzie

    My guest today, Trevor MacKenzie is an experienced teacher, author, keynote speaker and inquiry consultant who has worked in schools throughout North America, Asia, Australia, South Africa and Europe.  Trevor’s day job is as a high school English teacher in Victoria, British Columbia, Canada, He teaches from an inquiry stance, guided by specific values and beliefs. In addition, Trevor is also an author, speaker and consultant, travelling worldwide to help schools implement inquiry-based teaching structures and frameworks.  Trevor’s new book Inquiry Mindset Questions Edition is out imminently and because questions are a favourite subject of mine, I had to invite him onto the podcast to talk about it.  I’ve known Trevor for a few years now since we connected on social media through shared interests and enthusiasms. Trevor is an advocate and champion for inquiry-based learning, generously supporting the work of many educators in the field, including me, and he is well known for his kindness, alongside his expertise.  Listen to find out more about: the power of inquiry-based learning and what it means to teach from an inquiry-based stancethe key principles and values that guide Trevor's work, drawing from his extensive experience and his new book, 'Inquiry Mindset Questions Edition' generating question confidence and competence; the importance of both open and closed questionsthe 10 high impact question routines in Trevor's new book, 'Inquiry Mindset Questions Edition' and how they can be used to promote inquiry. using images, photos, and art as provocations to spark curiosity and engagement.  There’s so much in our conversation from fostering curiosity, agency, active listening and the connections between Trevor’s work and our work in museums. What can we learn from each other? Where are the crossovers?  Listen to our conversation to discover more about the power of inquiry, curiosity and so much more.  Episode Links:Episode webpage Trevor MacKenzie's website: https://www.trevormackenzie.com Inquiry Mindset Questions Edition: https://www.trevormackenzie.com/inquiry-mindset-questions-edition https://www.trevormackenzie.com/posts/2024/4/14/announcing-inquiry-mindset-questions-edition Trevor MacKenzie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trev_mackenzie/ Trevor MacKenzie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/trevor-mackenzie-37103b261/ The Art Engager Links:Sign up for my Curated newsletter - a fortnightly dose of cultural inspiration Join thea...

    37 min
  4. 16 MAY

    Slow listening and philosophical questioning in the museum

    How can we engage children with classical music in the museum environment?  Today, I'm talking to Cecilie Skøtt about how to engage students with the music of Carl Nielsen through a blend of philosophical questioning and the art of slow listening. Cecilie Skøtt is a mediation designer at Hans Christian Andersen’s House and the Carl Nielsen Museum in Denmark.  Cecilie plays a key role in crafting and delivering school programmes for both museums, as well as interacting with visitors of all ages on weekends and holidays. With a passion for literature and dialogical teaching in the arts, Cecilie focuses on easing classroom-related anxiety and uses her expertise to create memorable museum experiences for children and families Today we’re chatting about how the Carl Nielsen museum engages students in classical music. At the museum, they’ve been teaching from an Open Questioning Mindset (OQM) and using Philosophical Dialogue for a few years now. OQM is both a teaching method and a mindset developed by Peter Worley to engage students in different topics, concepts, and stories. The method offers different tools and techniques for asking open and engaging questions, and to quickly create an environment where children feel safe and comfortable speaking their minds. Slow listening is a natural extension to the philosophical questioning environment and allows children to deeply connect with Nielsen's music . In two new programmes developed for schools the Carl Nielsen Museum combines all three to engage students with classical music. Listen to discover more about the Carl Nielsen Museum, philosophical questioning techniques and slow listening.  Episode Links:Episode web page + transcript: Cecilie Horup Skøtt on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilie-horup-sk%C3%B8tt-b60a93ab/ Carl Nielsen Museum website: https://museumodense.dk/carl-nielsen-museet/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CarlNielsenMuseet Open Questioning Mindset and philosophy with children: https://www.philosophy-foundation.org/ YouTube links for the music: Symphony no. 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agPrhTFqD0o Nielsen’s paraphrase on Nearer, My God, to Thee https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5FUNK2wZms Tågen Letter, played during Music Dynamite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_-wkidKX54 Maskerade, Keraus, played during Music Dynamite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TFfRwq-lrM The Art Engager Links:Sign up for my Curated newsletter - a fortnightly dose of cultural inspiration Join the Slow Looking Club Community Support the show here https://www.buymeacoffee.com/clairebown Download my free resources:  a href="https://pages.thinkingmuseum.com/how-to-look-at-art-slowly" rel="noopener...

    40 min
  5. 2 MAY

    Fostering curiosity and critical thinking on self-guided field trips

    Today, I'm excited to chat with Kylie Neagle about fostering curiosity and critical thinking on self-guided field trips for teachers and students. Kylie Neagle is the Education Coordinator at the Art Gallery of South Australia (AGSA) in Adelaide .  With a small team and limited resources, catering to diverse student needs can be challenging. Volunteer Gallery Guides, though invaluable, cannot always provide guided tours. At the Art Gallery of South Australia in Adelaide (AGSA), this prompted a shift towards empowering teachers to lead self-guided tours, emphasising inquiry and engagement rather than content delivery. The aim is to discourage teachers from relying on booklets during gallery visits. When students solely focus on facts or information from wall texts, they miss out on the chance to discover artworks that genuinely pique their interest. And this is where the Curiosity Cards come into play. These fantastic cards are a set of 52 tools designed to enhance art engagement among students. Perfect for self-guided gallery visits, they ease the pressure on teachers and empower students to articulate their thinking. They promote 'long looking' and also foster critical thinking, creativity and confidence in discussing art, enriching the whole learning experience. Episode Links:Episode webpage + transcript: https://thinkingmuseum.com/2024/05/15/fostering-curiosity-on-self-guided-field-trips/ Curiosity Cards https://www.agsa.sa.gov.au/education/resources-educators/resources-educators-themed/curiosity-cards/  Other AGSA Resources https://www.agsa.sa.gov.au/education/resources-educators/  AGSA Education Instagram https://www.instagram.com/agsa.education/  The Art Engager Links:Sign up for my Curated newsletter - a fortnightly dose of cultural inspiration Join the Slow Looking Club Community Support the show here https://www.buymeacoffee.com/clairebown Download my free resources:  How to look at art (slowly)- 30+ different ways to look at art or objects in the museum Slow Art Guide - six simple steps to guide you through the process of slow looking Ultimate Thinking Routine List - 120 thinking routines in one place If you have any suggestions, questions or feedback, get in touch with the show!

    35 min
  6. 18 APR

    Creating informal engagement with museum visitor teams

    In this episode, we take a closer look at museum visitor teams with Dickon Moore, Visitor Experience Manager at Wellcome Collection in London. Discover how these teams master the art of informal engagement, creating meaningful interactions that enhance visitors' museum experiences. Key Points: Understanding the importance of informal engagement in fostering meaningful interactions.How the role of visitor teams has changed over time from a more security-focused role to their current role as facilitators of engagement.Insights into the strategies and techniques employed by museum visitor teams, for informal, spontaneous interactions and structured engagements.Why visitor teams are uniquely placed to engage with museum visitorsHow museum visitor teams expertly navigate interactions with strangers, based on curiosity and open questioning.Learn about the three areas of impact: how visitors might think differently, feel differently, or act differently after engaging with museum content or staff.Discover how museum visitor teams are supported during challenging interactions, including skills development, duty manager support, de-escalation techniques, and reflective practice sessions. Episode 127 LinksWellcome Collection https://wellcomecollection.org/ Dickon Moore on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/dickonmoore Transcript available here: The Art Engager Links:Sign up for my Curated newsletter - a fortnightly dose of cultural inspiration Join the Slow Looking Club Community Support the show here https://www.buymeacoffee.com/clairebown Download my free resources:  How to look at art (slowly)- 30+ different ways to look at art or objects in the museum Slow Art Guide - six simple steps to guide you through the process of slow looking Ultimate Thinking Routine List - 120 thinking routines in one place If you have any suggestions, questions or feedback, get in touch with the show!

    31 min
  7. 11 APR

    Slow looking at the Van Gogh Museum

    Today, in a special BONUS episode for Slow Art Day, I’m talking to Harma van Uffelen. Harma works as a curator of education for the Van Gogh Museum where they have just created a brand new slow looking programme and a slow looking experience for the Matthew Wong exhibition.  Listen in to hear: How the programme started and why they chose the Matthew Wong exhibitionTechniques for engaging participants, including a deep dive into one of Wong's artworksConsiderations in programme design: ensuring comfort, choosing artworks, and managing durationDesigning a slow looking programme in a busy museum (hint: it can be done!)"In Silence with Matthew Wong": silent slow looking experience with one artworkReflections on the pilot programme and future plans If you’ve ever thought about designing and facilitating slow looking programmes in your museum, you will learn a lot from this episode! Episode Links:Matthew Wong, The Realm of Appearances, 2018,  https://www.vangoghmuseum.nl/en/about/news-and-press/press-image-bank/images-matthew-wong/the-realm-of-appearances Matthew Wong exhibition at the Van Gogh Museum https://www.vangoghmuseum.nl/en/visit/whats-on/exhibitions/matthew-wong-vincent-van-gogh Slow Looking Programme at the Van Gogh Museum https://www.vangoghmuseum.nl/nl/bezoek/agenda-en-activiteiten/rondleidingen/matthew-wong-vincent-van-gogh Open up with Vincent https://www.vangoghmuseum.nl/en/about/organisation/inclusion-and-accessibility-policy/open-up-with-vincent#collaborations Harma van Uffelen on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/harma-van-uffelen-4b50b721/ H.vanUffelen@vangoghmuseum.nl The Art Engager Links:Sign up for my Curated newsletter - a fortnightly dose of cultural inspiration Join the Slow Looking Club Community Support the show here https://www.buymeacoffee.com/clairebown Download my free resources:  How to look at art (slowly)- 30+ different ways to look at art or objects in the museum Slow Art Guide - six simple steps to guide you through the process of slow looking Ultimate Thinking Routine List - 120 thinking routines in one place If you have any suggestions, questions or feedback, get in touch with the show!

    35 min

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The Art Engager Podcast with Claire Bown is your go-to resource for creating engaging experiences in museums and cultural spaces. Explore practices that deepen connections with art, objects, people and ideas. Learn techniques to spark curiosity, foster dialogue, and transform how you engage with your audience. Each episode offers practical insights to enhance your skills and bring your museum experiences to life.

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