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Ben and Jamesa are joined by international recording artist Eckoes, who shares her take on the problems with how people talk about race as well as sharing some of her music and a previously unheard track! Join the colorful conversation and grow in your ability to lead with compassionate curiosity.

Ben and Jamesa discuss several recent news stories through an anti-racist lens while Jamesa refuses to apologize for calling Ben "Hannibal Lecter" while wearing his new CPAP mask.

Jamesa attended a high school marked by the painful legacy of segregation. During a recent visit to her mother for Mother's Day in the town she went to High School, she and Ben engaged in a poignant conversation. They delved into the unsettling reality that many within the white community remain resistant to understanding the profound impact of historical injustices on the Black community.

Ben and Jamesa are joined by New York Times best-selling author Margot Starbuck and Licensed Independent Social Worker Deb Riley to discuss white women's tears in the workplace. In a recent episode, Jamesa mentioned a study that showed that Black women would rather work with white men than white women, so Ben, Jamesa, Margot, and Deb explore why.

Ben and Jamesa discuss this week's headlines through a colorFULL conversation deep in compassionate curiosity and humor. A big theme this week was white people losing their damn minds, so sit back, relax, and let Jamesa and Ben walk you through their take on the week's headlines.

We often talk on the podcast about compassionate curiosity, and today, we start to break down this term, what it means, and how to let it lead your life. Join Ben, Jamesa, and Amine as they scour the headlines and help you develop your compassionate curiosity.