The Wake Up Eager Workforce Podcast Suzie Price The Wake Up Eager Workforce Podcast

Episode Description
This special episode highlights the 2023 Robert S. Hartman Institute's Wisdom Council Panel discussion, featuring three legends of the field in Art Ellis, Ph.D., Steve Byrum, Ph.D., and Mark Moore,Ph.D. This podcast also includes clips from my short interviews with many conference participants.
In this episode: [00:00:01]  Suzie Price: Today is a special episode. It is recording from the 2023 Robert S Hartman Institute conference was held in Atlanta, and it is a panel discussion with three legends. They are Hartman legends, they are Professor Legends. They are author legends, they are financial asset manager legends that all have the same thing in common is that we're students or colleagues with Robert S Hartman, who is the founder of one of the sciences in the assessment tools that we use. And it's a great discussion. You're going to learn a lot more about how to make better decisions. You're going to learn more about measuring your progress and being who you can be, how you use assessments, how you help other people make better decisions. You're going to learn from other consultants. Because I have short interviews with ten different conference attendees finding out more about them, how they use these tools in their work, why they use these tools. So if you are interested in any of that, you're going to enjoy this conversation. It's a very rich conversation. It's a very meaningful conversation. It's going to help you understand axiology and TriMetrix better. It will help you understand yourself better. Just lots of great insight here and I'm very excited to share it with you.
We had people from around the world and all over the United States. You know, it's not always easy for everyone to participate because of the travel. We've had virtual conferences where we've had much more than that at the conference, but it was great to have 50 or so people there, all of us calling ourselves heart maniacs. And basically what that is, is people who value and appreciate the work of Robert Hartman. And many of those people are consultants who use the tools like TriMetrix that we use, or they go by other names. There's other tools that use the same science. And this tool is the under the hood horsepower tool that we use in TriMetrix called acumen. The panelists are three of Hartman's colleagues and students, and I'm the moderator. The three voices that you'll hear. One is Art Ellis, Steve Byrum, and Mark Moore. They're all PhDs, and I'm going to share their complete bios with you. And when you hear them, you're going to say, wow, they really are legends. She was not overstating that. And then as I mentioned, we have these impromptu interviews with ten attendees, and they're talking about why they came to the conference, how they use Hartman's work, how that work has helped them personally and professionally. And what we did is we're inserting the clips of those conversations throughout the panel discussion.
Mark Moore: Well, I'm like everyone else. I'm no good at predicting the future, and I wouldn't pretend to do so. And and as you know, I don't think the future can be predicted anyway. However, however, we can prepare for a better future, and the way we do that is through, I think, understanding people like Robert Hartman. I go back to this as I think about the world, something I'll go back to time and time again. And I've even coined a little expression for it, uh, distributive justice, which is something axiology is wonderfully adept at talking about distributive justice, which means bringing the best justice you can for all peoples is not a zero sum game. In other words, you don't get distributive justice by taking from one group to give to another.
Steve Byrum: I think it's very interesting that we can't predict the future, but I would claim that Hartman was pretty prophetic about some of these things we're talking about right now, the title of this small book that we should be so proud to have

In this episode of the Wake Up Eager Workforce podcast, Suzie Price speaks with return podcast guest Art Ellis, Ph.D., on Unlocking the Power of Practical Axiology. The two discuss Dr. Robert Hartman's "Freedom to Live", outlining Hartman's journey and the foundations of practical Axiology.
Art Ellis discusses the legacy of Robert Hartman, who developed Axiology after escaping the atrocities of Hitler, striving to create a structure that organizes good. They explore the origins of the manuscript, its purpose in relation to seminars with Nationwide Insurance Company, and Hartman's personal journey from surviving in Germany during World War II to becoming a philosopher in the United States.
Ellis shares his passion for reading multiple books at once, ranging from deep philosophical works to entertaining mysteries. He also mentions his addiction to playing Wordle and his ability to solve it in three or four guesses.
The two discuss health, spirit, and wisdom, and engage in a conversation about maintaining a healthy lifestyle, including dietary preferences and physical activities. They also delve into the significance of travel on their spirits and share their involvement in music and storytelling.
Additionally, Ellis reflects on the advice he would give his younger self, emphasizing the importance of learning about family history and interacting with significant individuals.
The podcast delves into the concept of infusing artificial intelligence with a value-based decision-making process, contemplating the potential implications for the future. They consider the idea of incorporating a Hartman value axiology model algorithm into AI and emphasize the importance of ensuring that AI decisions are based on a calculus of values, including intrinsic, extrinsic, and systemic factors.
In this episode: [00:00:01] Suzie Price: Today I'm talking with licensed professional counselor Art Ellis, Ph.D. You're going to want to tune in today if you love to learn about others journeys. If you want to feel more hope about the world, if you're curious about the idea that we can measure how we think, feel, and make decisions. If you want to know more about Axiology and try metrics. If you like being inspired by others, you're going to learn more about Robert Hartman's story of escaping Hitler and using the trauma of watching Hitler organize evil, and taking that and turning it into creation of a structure that organizes good, which is what Axiology is.

[00:12:35] Art Ellis: So he came up with the idea of good, the meaning of good of a thing is that it is what it is supposed to be. And in philosophical terminology, or in fact, mathematical terminology, it means it has all of the properties that it is supposed to have. If it is the best thing it can be, it has all of them. 
[00:20:30] Suzie Price: Other philosophers have usually found intrinsic value only in universal, repeatable qualities like pleasure, knowledge, virtue, law, creativity, but not an individual. So that is, you know, when you talk about intrinsic and I think that's where people's hearts get touched through Hartman's work is this understanding of intrinsic and the value of it. And I think that's one of the differentiators. Not only does he talk about how we think and help us understand the ordering principle for our lives, but then he talks about the richness of intrinsic and helps us remember something. And it apparently, before he started talking about it the way he did back in the 1960s, that was not a common practice.
[00:43:35] Art Ellis: Then we have to take those numbers and turn them into a person. Because we're not doing an assessment to see what's wrong with this person. We're doing an assessment to look at a reflection of this person and our working with those numbers in our descriptions and our our speculations about what this kind of score, combination and pattern means. We have to turn that back into a real person. So, you know, that's the three

In this episode of the Wake Up Eager Workforce podcast, Suzie Price shares invaluable insights on the art of conducting effective interviews for hiring managers. Emphasizing the importance of finding the right fit to mitigate the risk of a bad hire, Suzie introduces a structured approach to enhance interviewing and hiring skills. This episode is a treasure trove for anyone involved in hiring, offering practical tools and strategies to improve the selection process.
Key highlights include the introduction of the F.I.T process, which stands for Figure out what the job needs, Interview plan and strategy, and Targeted interviewing and selection process. Suzie explains how creating a hiring template can significantly contribute to understanding job requirements beyond just resumes and backgrounds. The importance of having a well-communicated interview plan to prepare the interview team is underscored, promoting a unified approach to candidate evaluation.
Suzie delves into targeted interviewing techniques, advocating for competency-based questions that reveal candidates' true potential and fit for the role. The discussion also touches on common interviewing mistakes such as over-reliance on gut feeling and unstructured interviews, offering solutions to avoid these pitfalls.
Listeners are encouraged to embrace the episode's guidance to create a high-commitment, low-drama workforce. By focusing on fit, utilizing structured interview processes, and employing effective evaluation techniques, organizations can significantly improve their hiring outcomes, ensuring a Wake Up Eager Workforce that aligns with their goals and values.
In this episode: [00:00:01] Today we're talking about how to conduct an interview. This is for every hiring manager out there. If you are interviewing people for a position, you are going to want to tune into this episode.
[00:01:07] Help leaders and organizations make good decisions about their people. 

[00:02:50] Suzie speaks about structure and clarity in the interview process.
[00:07:09] Oftentimes we don't want to actually learn the structure until we've suffered from the pain of a poor hire.
[00:12:33] Look for more than the resume in the background. 

[00:16:34] The other top interview mistake is we have unconscious bias. 

[00:19:27] Importance of figuring out their roads traveled and aspirations.
[00:22:57] Suzie talks about creating a hiring template.
[00:29:45] How clarity allows hiring managers to all talk about the job in the same way. 
[00:40:32] Setting the right tone and making the company stand out at the end of the interview.

[00:45:21] Eliminating distractions during the interview process. 

[00:49:14] How to listen agressively.

[00:52:45] The 75/25 rule in interviewing. 
[00:55:32] Recapping the interview process.
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Connect with Suzie: Priceless Professional - https://www.pricelessprofessional.com/
LinkedIn: Suzie Price - https://www.linkedin.com/in/suzieprice/
LinkedIn: Priceless Professional Development - https://www.linkedin.com/company/priceless-professional-d

When we think about a wake-up eager workforce, we are looking for people who are performing roles that align with their strengths. We are looking for people who are motivated and feel respected and appreciated in their roles. 
Often, we find in the workplace that some employees are not as involved or enthused as we would like. Sometimes, they are actively disengaged or quiet quitting, or even outwardly disgruntled, commonly referred to as loud quitting.
In this episode, I speak with Amy Lugar, Senior Vice President of People Strategy for the southern region of HUB International. We discuss the biggest mistake leaders make in the workplace: being “relationship lazy.” 
Leaders are focused on tasks and performance without dedicating the time and energy to getting to know the people on their teams. This extends beyond knowing the tasks that they’re working on to understanding their goals and dreams and ensuring there is a stream of consistent and transparent communication. 
Once these relationships are built, it makes accountability and feedback a more streamlined and less offensive process. When there are areas that employees need to improve on, it’s a better conversation for the leader and the employee when it is approached from a growth mindset with the approach of helping grow and improve as opposed to reprimanding poor performance. These conversations require the foundation of a relationship to be productive. 
Additionally, HUB International is exceptional at matching people not only to the roles they are looking to fill but also to the culture of the company. When employees are aligned with the company culture, they will feel more fulfilled and committed to their work.
This episode is full of so much amazing insight into combating quiet and loud quitting as well as maintaining a positive work culture. I know you’re going to love it! Tune in to my conversation with Amy today. 



In this episode: [00:01:08] Welcome to the Wake Up Eager Workforce Podcast!
[00:04:32] I share some background on my guest, Amy Lugar. 
[00:06:43] Welcome to the show, Amy! Tell us about the three common mistakes that leaders make that contribute to quiet and loud quitting.
[00:10:34] What are some ways that leaders can connect with their employees to build relationships?
[00:13:30] Amy shares about the amazing culture at HUB International. 
[00:16:47] Amy shares some examples of how HUB International is empowering its employees. 
[00:20:10] There is a balance between employee appreciation and course correction.
[00:25:04] It is important to get the right person in the right seat for workplace performance. 
[00:34:58] Amy and I discuss her strengths and motivators and how they are present in her role.
[00:43:42] Who are the people who have influenced Amy the most in her life?
[00:47:54] The best tools that have been instrumental in Amy’s professional development. 
[00:48:53] The definition of success as it pertains to Amy. 
[00:53:36] Amy’s advice to her 25-year-old self. 
[00:55:20] A harsh quote that inspires and motivates Amy.
[01:01:10] Parting words of wisdom from Amy. Thanks for joining me today!
[01:02:57] My key takeaways from my conversation with Amy. 
[01:10:59] Thanks for joining me on the Wake Up Eager Workforce Podcast! See you next time! 


Links & Resources: Hub International -  https://www.hubinternational.com/
 
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It is hard to Wake Up Eager when you are in physical pain. In this episode, I speak with Kelly Lynch Feldkamp, founder of Provention Plus, about how wellness programs impact company culture, how soft tissue injuries impact your bottom line, how everybody is a Jobsite Athlete, and the benefit of understanding the impact of posture and movement in the workplace.
Provention Plus is an on-site injury prevention company that is changing the way companies take care of their manual labor or craft employees. Kelly is also the creator of the Move Better Program, which has been used by thousands of jobsite athletes over the last 20 years. She has a passion for helping Jobsite Athletes reduce the discomfort that has been accepted as a necessary part of manual labor professions. 
The biggest component of Provention Plus is making a connection with each human they interact with beyond the correction and prevention of their injuries. Ensuring that someone cares about them at work is key to promoting wellness in the workplace, and you can’t prevent injuries just based on what a Jobsite Athlete is doing only on the job. These people have lives beyond their work that also impact their performance, and you have to look at the whole individual to get the best care and prevention for each individual. 
Another important thing to remember is that we are all Jobsite Athletes. Whether you are doing manual labor on a job site or sitting at your desk all day, we are all prone to soft tissue injuries from ignoring the needs of our bodies in our job roles. We all have a body that needs to feel great for us to perform at our jobs, and we need to do what we can to counteract the toll that our work takes on our bodies.
I know you’re going to love this episode and the tips and tricks that Kelly shares. Tune in today to hear more about wellness in the workplace and what you can do to make sure that you keep your body feeling great so you can continue to Wake Up Eager! 


In this episode: [00:00:41] Welcome to the Wake Up Eager Workforce Podcast!
[00:01:47] I share some about Kelly Lynch Feldkamp’s background and expertise. 
[00:04:14] Welcome to the show, Kelly! Tell us about what you and your team do surrounding culture, safety, and wellness.
[00:09:47] Kelly shares about soft tissue injuries and how they impact the bottom line of businesses. 
[00:13:18] How has wellness culture shifted in the workplace over the last 20 years? 
[00:17:00] What is a Jobsite Athlete, and how can they maintain their bodies for their jobs?
[00:21:01] The human connection is fundamental to wellness in the workplace. 
[00:25:04] What would Kelly change about how companies think about safety? 
[00:33:02] Kelly shares some key tips to increase your movement and prevent workplace injuries.
[00:41:00] Kelly shares who has influenced her most in life.
[00:46:56] Kelly’s Mind, Body, and Spirit tips that help her Wake Up Eager. 
[00:50:53] Provention Plus’s role in employee onboarding on the job site. 
[00:54:08] The role that sobriety plays in the body and how lifestyle changes can help prevent injuries. 
[00:57:56] Kelly’s advice to her younger self. 
[01:00:11] The special message that Kelly would like to share with the world. 
[01:05:22] Parting words of wisdom from Kelly.
[01:06:56] Thanks for listening to my chat with Kelly today - here are my parting thoughts on the episode.
[01:10:55] Thanks for tuning in to the Wake Up Eager Workforce Podcast!
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Episode -106: Mind,

Stories have always been a way that we have shared information and influenced others. The power of stories predates modern society and carries such a powerful influence as a way to share experience and knowledge. 
In this episode, I speak with Doug Stevenson, who is the master of Storytelling that Sticks. Doug is a former professional actor with a colorful history. He has acted on stage in small roles in movies and on TV; he has also been a rock singer, a carpenter, a taxi driver, realtor, and finally found his calling as a professional speaker and speaker’s coach.
His gift for speaking developed into the Story Theatre method for Strategic Storytelling in Business, and for over 25 years, Doug has delivered keynote speeches and taught storytelling skills to leaders, salespeople, and marketing teams all over the globe. 
Based on the 9 steps of storytelling structure, he continues to coach his clients remotely, helping them to develop their messaging, become more confident in themselves, and connect inward with the message they are sharing with their audiences. 
Doug also emphasized that there is a danger in attempting to interpret your audience. Misinterpreting the energy of your audience while you are speaking can be detrimental to your message. Worst of all, you may be totally wrong with what you interpret, derailing your presentation for no reason. Always connect inward. Connect with yourself and do what you do; let your audience connect with you in their own way. 
This episode is full of so much insight and wisdom into how stories can make a huge influence on the way our messages are delivered to our audience, and I can’t wait to share it with you. Tune in today to hear more about Doug’s story and to learn more about how a good story can change the way your message makes it out into the world. 
 
In this episode:  [00:01:06] Welcome to the Wake Up Eager Workforce Podcast!
[00:01:58] Suzie introduces her guest, Doug Stevenson. 
[00:04:01] Doug Stevenson shares his background and how he became a Story Theatre Coach for Strategic Storytelling in Business. 
[00:15:52] Doug shares about the work he does now to coach his students virtually.
[00:19:20] How Doug helps his clients develop their messaging. 
[00:22:53] The danger of interpreting the audience. 
[00:29:41] The secrets to connecting inward. 
[00:32:15] Drawing the line between bragging or apologizing while speaking to your audience. 
[00:36:56] The best stories are about mistakes, failures, and small disasters
[00:39:18] Why do stories work so well? 
[00:44:26] The biggest influences in Doug’s life and career.  
[00:51:26] Doug’s strategies to stay centered in Mind, Body, and Spirit. 
[01:01:15] Doug’s advice to his 25-year-old self. 
[01:03:23] What would Doug’s billboard say?
[01:06:50] Thanks for joining us today, Doug!
[01:07:13] Thanks for joining us in this episode of The Wakeup Eager Workforce Podcast!
 
Links & Resources: The Story Theater Method by Doug Stevenson - https://www.amazon.com/Doug-Stevensons-Story-Theater-Method/dp/0977914615
Storytelling That Sticks for Business and Life Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/storytelling-that-sticks-for-business-and-life/id1608943658
W.Mitchell - https://www.youtube.com/user/WMitchellWebsite/videos
Garrison Keillor - https://www.garrisonkeillor.com/
 
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Connect with Doug:
Storytelling in Business - https://storytelling-in-business.com/
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dougstevenson1/