Wake Up and Think Clearly jairo འཇམ་དབྱངས་དཔ\u

Special guests Jes us and Chris! 

Mike Taylor, Rami, Domenic, Justin, and Luis come together to wonder about things and non-things. Some of the kinds of things we wodered about included souls and spirits.

I left around 10:30 AM for another meeting.  I came back two hours later to have a brief conversation with Rami.

I removed 50 minutes of silence that was recorded right after the last conversationalists Domenic and Chris left the meeting, at around 11:30 AM. Then at around 12:30 the silence ended when I came back.  So I am looking forward to listening to this episode because I missed about an hour of conversation.

Welcome friends, enemies, neutrals, and kind mothers. This episode is an extract from the almost 6 hour conversation that ran from around 7 AM to almost 1 PM on a saturday morning, May 22, 2021. This was a meditation conversation on the knowing about our knowing. What we do naturally all the time, except when we take a break from it. It's been called consciousness, awareness, mind, states of mind, mind(s), chitta, primary minds, mental factors, mental arisings, thinking, feeling, talking inside, visualizing, dreaming, affecting. 

Here we have an example of  Beings being conscious of consciousness? How would you define consciousness? 

If we consider a definition of consciousness as that phenomena in which a sentient being experiences knowing, then what is involved in this knowing?  Is there some kind of input and processing, and some way of producing enough output to allow for communication with other beings with consciousness?

This day, Saturday May 22, we had Luis Del Pino appear, and I invited Justin Shenryu Williams because I saw that he had messaged me on Facebook Messenger. And he joined up.  

Also showing up and contributing are Mike Taylor in Winter Park, and Domenic in Toronto.

Wow! This was an excellent discussion between second-time visitor Adriana (welcome back), Rami, Mike Taylor, Luis, David, and  Joel. Rami thankfully volunteered to help me out as assistant facilitator in making sure everyone got to speak their truth and prevent any of us from hogging the conversation. Adriana is the one who views us human beings as created in a likeness or similar essence to God as being energies of Love; Rami is the one to be saved; Mike is the mathematician; Luis is the realist; David is the words man; Joel is in Toronto (showing up in the second half) but always a pleasure and brings us his wit and stories; and I, Jairo am your fearless host and facilitator, just out of the hospital from overcoming the COVID-19 with pneumonia.

Rami suggested the topic and pointed us to a verse in the Gospel of Mark, second chapter verse 17. Available online at Mk 2:17 https://biblehub.com/mark/2-17.htm

We also read Rami's ponderings on the necessity of a Savior. That is available for a limited time only on my OneDrive by using the link https://1drv.ms/b/s!Alvu7V4Xziot46Uo782b9269YqfTiQ?e=3cb7mr

I wasn't feeling too well that day, and since a few days before, and I had been thinking it was only a cold with a coughing that would not go away, sneezing, sleeping poorly, incredible headache, eventually turned into pneumonia and poor oxygen intake. I didn't realize that I had developed COVID-19 with pneumonia. A few more days of delay from my eventual treatment for over a week beginning in January 8th and I would have been dead or seriously maimed from the COVID-19 desease complicated by pneumonia. Nevertheless this day, Saturday morning, the second of January 2021, I wanted to have my Zoom meeting with friends Luis, David, and whoever else might show up.

Welcome to a conversation with Luis, Rami, David, and Jairo. We cover being, non-being, the mind, the dipole between attraction and repulsion, ataraxia, some political and religious trends, and lots of prodding to keep each other honest. We strive to seek and develop whatever skills, tools, and knowledge may help us along our journey in life, or at least to remind us of how to lead a better life. I hope you enjoy this one. I really appreciate everyone who participated. It made my stay in the hospital for COVID-19 more bearable.