Speak‪!‬ Crystal Danbury & Elisa Lynch

Just because I ought to…does that mean I can?

Just because I can…does that mean I ought to?

How does ‘can’ and ‘ought’ relate to human factors, and to safety?

Are we as ethical as we think we are? What’s your argument for that?

Simon Cassin joins us to pose some questions that maybe only a philosophical approach can answer.

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Elisa here:

Part way through this episode, the conversation very briefly touches on the horrors being brought on G*za by Isr*el. Crystal speaks about a conversation we had a few months back about this that relates to the ‘ought implies can’ argument.  

That conversation landed on a quote I’d heard by Ursula Wolfe-Rocca who said:
"It can be overwhelming to witness/experience/take in all of the injustices of the moment; the good news is *they are all connected*. So, if your little corner of the work involves pulling at one of the threads, you're helping to unravel the whole damn cloth”.


Safety is a human right.

We have the immense privilege of helping to ensure people have safe and healthy workplaces. Our influence can reach far and wide, across supply chains, across industries, across the world.

This is our little corner of the work.

Please keep pulling at your thread.

TRANSATLANTIC!! The Americans are in the room!!

In this episode Crystal and I are joined by the wonderful Laynnea Myles and Kristi McClure, who have come to speak about the results of a survey they completed on women in the EHS profession.

We chat on   
Advocacy    
Allyship   
Micro aggressions (and how to address them in the moment)      
Laynnea’s insights about women supporting, or not supporting, each other in the workplace.

Leadership and ‘masculine attributes’

I have a pop at Sheryl Sandberg’s ‘Lean In’ (spoiler, not a fan)

Crystal shares a story about some difficult feedback she received that was pivotal to her career progression.

Thoughts on gender quotas!

And, Kristi brings it all together so well:

“…the women who have been in this for years and years…you're in that position of power. …If the word chief is in your title or VP, you have an incredible amount of power, you actually can influence how things are.

They need you to be an advocate and to be an ally. …You're actually in a position to change the structure and make some systemic changes… You can change a lot with your power if you if you choose to use it that way.”

Not for the first (and not likely the last)
time on Speak, it’s time to get uncomfortable!



Chloe is back to talk all things Blood Work, based off a piece of research by Sang et al (2021) which is linked below.
We get into

-         
Effects of having your period
at work

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Menstrual etiquette

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Masking symptoms

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Personal anecdotes

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What kind of support is needed?


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What you (as a manager) can do
next…be brave! You CAN survive an awkward conversation!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7921994/



to watch: https://youtu.be/NBmINVMbU6Y

Ahoy! Safety Piracy 🏴‍☠️, and Translating Value 💎 with Ben Legg

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We are joined by the wonderful Ben Legg for
a chat about Safety Piracy! Sailing across the organisational seas searching
for the magical solution that maybe doesn’t exist… 

This was a cracker – we meander through
“the debates”, “back to basics”, book burning (!), and how we translate and
demonstrate the value of safety in a language that your business understands.

It’s time we move on from (or at least add
to) safety is a moral responsibility/ accidents cost money.

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BL: “You can’t go faster in the same way;
you have to change something.”

CD: “See the problem, understand the
problem - remove, mitigate, or accept.”

EL: “The key is listening, the language is
there in every business, the conversations are happening and if you tune into
it, they’ll hand it to you.”

CD: “If someone asks me to do some Safety
Culture work, my job is not to humiliate them and say oh no that’s a subset of!
…if you want to approach culture change by focusing on one area to get an
understanding of why things happen the way they happen, it’s a positive
movement, regardless of where we start.”

BL: “…friction fixer using health &
safety as the catalyst to do that…We can go faster, we can higher, we can
deeper, we can generate more product, by using the principles of good safety –
not the basics – the good principles.

EL: “…there’s a lot of opacity between
safety professionals, and we need to move to transparency – “I tried this it
worked, I tried this it didn’t”, we need to be sharing a lot more…there’s still
a big fear between ourselves of sharing.”

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youtube: https://youtu.be/57WM-KoM6bw

Join us, Crystal Danbury and Elisa Lynch, as we chat with Anna Keen about where the next gen of safety talent are and how we can unlock them!



You can also see Crystal freak for about 4secs thinking she had gone off air, but she hadn't! A very smooth recovery haha!


Find the episode on youtube too: https://youtu.be/0ij8P2lqUYc

Join us, Elisa Lynch and Crystal Danbury, as we chat with Stuart Hughes in the SPEAK! Seat.

He wants to know if we focus on the right things in Safety.We dig into 'the basics', how HACCPs could be helpful across the board, if we know our critical risks and vitally our critical controls. We also ask if the basics are as easy as they sound!

As usual, it's a safe, honest, unedited learning space.

to watch it: https://youtu.be/WHGnBmQqK8s


Great chat! Enjoy



Crystal and Elisa x