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Join us for a deeply moving episode as we welcome our dear friend Rina Bowring to the podcast. As a fellow alcohol-freedom coach, Rina brings a wealth of wisdom and vulnerability to our conversation, sharing her unique journey of overcoming alcohol addiction and postpartum rage.
Rina recounts her early struggles with alcohol, using it to feel liberated and accepted. However, as she transitioned into motherhood, her relationship with alcohol spiraled into a destructive cycle, prompting her to confront the harsh reality of her addiction. With unwavering determination, Rina embarked on a journey of self-discovery, navigating the turbulent waters of postpartum rage and finding peace and hope with Jesus in sobriety.
Rina underscores the transformative power of self-reflection and the importance of embracing vulnerability in the journey towards healing. She shares invaluable insights on the role of faith in finding solace and strength amidst trials and emphasizes the profound impact of choosing authenticity and connection in motherhood.
From the pitfalls of societal expectations to the liberating power of self-care, Rina's journey is a testament to the resilience we can access when we bring God along on this freedom journey.
 
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In this episode, we are honored and humbled to present our conversation with psychiatrist, speaker and author Dr. Curt Thompson. Known around BJDW as, “the teacher Meade is most-likely to reference on the podcast for the depth and breadth of the impact his work has had on her life,” Curt, connects our intrinsic desire to be known with the need to tell truer stories about ourselves — showing us how to form deep relationships, discover meaning and live integrated creative lives.
 
Join us for a profound exploration of the intersection between neuroscience and the biblical narrative as we delve into the human experience of suffering and the formation of durable hope. Our discussion begins with a reflection on the importance of naming and understanding suffering. We delve into the complexities of the human experience, acknowledging the difficulties of receiving love and mercy amidst pain. Curt emphasizes the transformative power of community in navigating suffering, highlighting the need to bring our whole selves into relationships for healing and growth.
 
Curt sheds light on the limitations of control and the unpredictability of influence in relationships, offering insights into the connection between anxiety and the fear of isolation. He invites us into the significance of being present in the body, providing practical strategies for shifting from a mind-centered approach to an embodied experience, thus fostering deeper connections and resilience.
 
Our conversation continues into the role of anger in the healing process, emphasizing the importance of expressing and releasing this emotion constructively. Finally, Curt delves into the concept of forming durable hope through suffering, illuminating how our experiences shape our anticipation of the future and our capacity to embrace life's challenges with resilience and faith.
 
Through a rich tapestry of neuroscience and biblical wisdom, our chat with Curt offers profound insights into the human condition, inviting listeners to embrace vulnerability, cultivate resilience, and discover enduring hope amidst life's trials.
 
You can learn more about Dr. Curt Thompson at www.curtthompsonmd.com, follow him on instagram @curtthompsonmd and get his newest book: The Deepest Place: Suffering And The Formation Of Hope. To learn more about the incredible work of Curt’s non-profit, The Center for Being Known, and to learn more about joining a Confessional Community, go to https://www.thecbk.org/
 
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00:00 Introduction: Exploring Freedom from Alcohol
00:52 Special Guest: Dr. Curt Thompson's Impactful Journey
01:53 Discovering Personal Freedom and Transformation
06:30 The Interplay of Neuroscience and Faith
13:08 Understanding Suffering and Embracing Community
23:38 The Challenge of Receiving Love and Mercy
28:03 Exploring the Threshold of Change and Patient Care
29:20 Introducing the But Jesus Drank Wine Community
30:22 Diving Deep into Anxiety and Isolation
36:33 Embracing Embodiment and Physical Awareness
44:32 The Power of Durable Hope in Suffering
52:02 Closing Thoughts and Resources
 
The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.
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We hear you, our dear readers, that our list episodes are among your favorites and they happen to be favorites of ours too. For today’s insightful conversation, we are diving deep into the transformative journey of living alcohol-free, sharing our lists of the ten invaluable lessons we wish we’d known in our first year of “sobriety.”
 
1. Friendship Shuffle: We candidly explore the challenges and blessings of reshaping friendships and social circles after embracing sobriety, highlighting the importance of surrounding oneself with supportive individuals.
 
2. Temporary Nature of Cravings: We discuss the temporary nature of cravings and discomfort in the initial stages of sobriety, emphasizing that these feelings do pass and are worth enduring for the long-term benefits.
 
3. Embracing Emotions: We underscore the importance of allowing oneself to feel emotions fully, recognizing that numbing feelings with alcohol only delays true healing and growth.
 
4. Understanding Moderation: We share insights into the realization that even those who appear to moderate their alcohol consumption may be struggling internally, challenging common perceptions of moderation.
 
5. Heightened Awareness and Appreciation: We reflect on how sobriety brings about a heightened awareness and appreciation for life's simple joys, fostering a deeper connection with oneself and the world around them.
6. Impact on Children: We discuss the profound impact of our choices on our children, inspiring us to lead by example and prioritize health and well-being.
7. Absence of Desire: We discuss the eventual absence of desire for alcohol, highlighting the freedom and empowerment that come with breaking free from dependency.
8. Expanding Lives: We share how their lives have expanded and become more fulfilling without alcohol, embracing new opportunities and experiences with open arms.
9. Importance of Vulnerability and Connection: We emphasize the power of vulnerability and connection in the journey of sobriety, advocating for honest communication and support networks.
10. Navigating Relationships: We also touch on the challenges of navigating relationships with partners who still drink, offering insights on fostering understanding and compromise.
We hope to encourage you to approach sobriety with openness and curiosity, embracing the transformative possibilities of an alcohol-free life. Through our shared experiences and wisdom, we hope to inspire others to embark on their own journey towards a healthier, more fulfilling lifestyle.
 
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00:00 Introduction to the Podcast: Exploring Freedom from Alcohol
01:08 Diving into the 10 Things I Wish I Knew in My First Year Alcohol-Free
02:10 The Friendship Shuffle: Navigating Relationships in Sobriety
06:44 Embracing the Challenges and Joys of Sobriety
10:35 The Transformative Power of Sobriety on Perception and Relationships
13:32 Moderation Myths and the Journey to True Freedom from Alcohol
18:20 Feeling More Alive: The Emotional Awakening of Sobriety
21:56 The Observant Eyes of Children: Learning and Growing Together
24:52 Embracing Vulnerability and Connection in Sobriety
26:01 The Surprising Space and Time Sobriety Unlocks
27:54 Expanding Your World Beyond Alcohol
31:38 The Transformative Power of Sobriety on Personal Growth
35:49 Navigating Relationships in Sobriety
37:50 Finding Ease and Joy in a Sober Life
40:41 The Struggle with Sobriety: A Path to Learning and Growth
45:43 Closing Thoughts: The Journey of Sobriety
 
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We are thrilled to announce our very first BJDW Community book,  "The Gospel of John: Savoring the Peace of Jesus in a Chaotic World." To kick off this exciting venture, we've invited the brilliant author Melissa Spoelstra to join us on the podcast, where she shares her wisdom on how we can learn more about anchoring ourselves in peace amidst life's chaos.
 
Together, we explore the rich tapestry of John's gospel, delving into its profound significance and uncovering hidden treasures within its pages. We look closer at the transformative narrative of the wedding at Cana, where Jesus initiates His supernatural ministry. Melissa invites us to ponder the timeless wisdom encapsulated in Mary's poignant directive, "Do whatever He tells you," urging us to adopt a posture of obedience and trust in every aspect of our lives.
 
Melissa opens up about her own journey of falling in love with the Word of God and crafting insightful Bible studies that resonate with seekers of truth. With heartfelt authenticity, she underscores the importance of seeking intimacy with Jesus as the cornerstone of finding enduring peace, regardless of external circumstances or fleeting counterfeits. As we unpack the concept of peace as a person—Jesus Himself—Melissa offers practical strategies for slowing down, listening to God's voice, and savoring moments of intimacy with Him.
 
Join us as we share our personal reflections and strategies for cultivating peace in the midst of life's storms. From the significance of worship as a balm for worry to the transformative power of obedience and surrender, we pray this episode gives you hope and encouragement for navigating life's challenges with grace, resilience, and unwavering trust in the Prince of Peace.
 
You can learn more about Melissa’s ministry at melissaspoelstra.com, follow her on instagram @melissa.spoelstra, and get her Gospel of John study right HERE. 
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00:00 Introduction: Unveiling the Journey to Sobriety and Faith
00:30 Meet Melissa Spoelstra: A Journey of Faith and Teaching
02:46 Melissa's Personal Journey: From Rural Texas to Theology and Beyond
07:55 Exploring the Stories That Keep Us Stuck
11:26 Finding Peace in Jesus: Insights from the Book of John
16:11 Savoring Intimacy with Jesus in Times of Pain
22:06 Practical Steps to Finding Peace and Combatting Nighttime Temptations
24:12 Introducing the But Jesus Drank Wine Community
25:31 Embracing Quiet and Intentionality
25:54 The Journey from Trying to Training
26:10 Finding Peace and Making Choices
27:42 The Power of Obedience and Its Impact
28:35 The Significance of Jesus's First Miracle
32:49 Personal Stories of Transformation
34:26 The Freedom Found in Obedience
35:26 The Essence of Worship and Its Effects
39:24 Exploring the Gospel of John
45:38 Closing Thoughts and Encouragement

The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show. 
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This week’s episode is a heart-to-heart with the inspiring Toni Collier, founder of Broken Crayons Still Color, a global women's organization dedicated to guiding individuals through brokenness toward healing and hope. Toni is a seasoned speaker, podcast host, and author who shares her profound insights on navigating life's challenges with grace and resilience.
In our chat, Toni gets real about the struggles we all face. She dives into the truth that hiding our pain only prolongs our healing journey, stressing the importance of opening up and finding support in our communities. Toni certainly doesn’t shy away from the tough stuff and even though we delve into brokenness, loss, and addiction in this episode, we felt incredibly uplifted and encouraged by Toni’s story and message. She shares how embracing gratitude and a posture of hope can transform our perspective and lead us closer to Christ. This episode will encourage you, dear listener, to embrace your brokenness and embrace the healing process by surrounding yourself with a supportive community that champions vulnerability and authenticity. 
We hope after you listen to this episode that you are reminded that no matter who you are or what you’ve been through, you can be restored and redeemed. That yes, even broken crayons, still color.
You can follow Toni on Instagram at @tonijcollier and buy her book, “Brave Enough to Be Broken” here and her children’s book, “Broken Crayons Still Color” here. 
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00:00 Welcome to Our Journey: Unveiling Freedom from Alcohol
00:34 Introducing Toni: From Brokenness to Beacon of Hope
01:14 Toni's Tale: A Journey Through Darkness to Divine Purpose
06:54 The Power of Broken Crayons: Transforming Pain into Purpose
12:11 Embracing Vulnerability: The Path to True Strength
15:06 Community and Healing: Leaving No Stone Unturned
20:09 The Healing Journey: Embracing Hope as Our Compass
23:16 Introducing the But Jesus Drank Wine Community
24:18 Exploring Gratitude and Grief
24:53 Navigating Divorce and Finding New Beginnings
26:18 The Coexistence of Grief and Gratitude
29:35 Confronting Alcohol Use in Times of Grief
30:27 The Journey to Sobriety and Self-Discovery
31:24 Embracing Community and Accountability
38:24 Living Intentionally Above the 50 Percent Line
39:59 God's Heart Towards Addiction and Recovery
43:04 Tiny Tina Town: Embracing a Replenishment Cycle
46:11 Closing Remarks and Community Engagement




The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.
 
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In this episode we dive into the realm of alcohol-free experiences, sharing personal anecdotes and insights into navigating various social situations sans alcohol. We talk about the many milestone alcohol-free firsts, such as date nights, weddings, birthdays, sporting events, vacations, concerts, and theater/ballet performances.
 
We discuss the joys and benefits of alcohol-free date nights, highlighting enhanced connection and presence. We share our experiences attending weddings without alcohol, focusing on celebration and connection over intoxication. From intimate gatherings to extravagant parties, we explore the possibilities of enjoying birthdays without alcohol. Discovering the excitement of sports events without the influence of alcohol, we emphasize the camaraderie and energy of the experience. Exploring new destinations with a clear mind, we reflect on the beauty of alcohol-free vacations. Attendees of live music events can still have a blast without alcohol, as we discuss the electrifying atmosphere and memorable moments. Experiencing the magic of the arts without alcohol, we delve into the immersive nature of theater and ballet performances.
 
We also shift gears reflecting on what we’ve learned from many alcohol-free experiences, highlighting the cornerstone of healthy relationships: effective communication. We address the importance of listening and empathy in effective communication. We also explore the impact of body language and tone of voice on communication. We emphasize the significance of trust and rapport in fostering meaningful connections. And we talk through strategies for addressing conflicts through open and honest communication. All of which was made available to us as a gift of experiencing life free from booze.
 
This episode concludes with encouragement to explore alcohol-free experiences and prioritize effective communication in relationships. Tune in next time for more insightful discussions and practical tips on living a fulfilling, alcohol-free lifestyle.
 
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00:00 Welcome to Our Journey: Exploring Freedom from Alcohol
00:30 Diving into Alcohol-Free Firsts: Celebrations and Challenges
01:34 The Power of Proof of Progress (POP) in Sobriety
03:49 Navigating Social Situations Alcohol-Free: Date Nights to Weddings
08:00 Celebrating Milestones and Holidays Without Alcohol
16:17 Introducing the But Jesus Drank Wine Community
17:19 Exploring Alcohol-Free Vacations: A New Perspective
20:24 Experiencing Culture and Entertainment Sober: Concerts to Ballet
29:42 Reflecting on the Journey and Encouraging Curiosity
32:36 Closing Thoughts and Encouragement



The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.
 
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