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Julia La Roche brings her listeners in-depth conversations with some of the top CEOs, investors, founders, academics, and rising stars in business. Guests on "The Julia La Roche Show" have included Bill Ackman, Ray Dalio, Marc Benioff, Kyle Bass, Hugh Hendry, Nassim Taleb, Nouriel Roubini, David Friedberg, Anthony Scaramucci, Scott Galloway, Brent Johnson, Jim Rickards, Danielle DiMartino Booth, Carol Roth, Neil Howe, Jim Rogers, Jim Bianco, Josh Brown, and many more. Julia always makes the show about the guest, never the host. She speaks less and listens more. She always does her homework.
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#164 Chris Whalen On Higher Interest Rates, Illiquidity, And The Death Of Leverage
Investment banker and author Chris Whalen, chairman of Whalen Global Advisors, who is also the author of The Institutional Risk Analyst, returns to The Julia La Roche Show to discuss the big picture of the economy and markets.
He highlights the dichotomy between the consumer side, which is doing relatively well, and the commercial side, which is suffering due to low interest rates and illiquidity. Whalen predicts that interest rates will rise, leading to a preference for income-focused investments and a shift away from speculative pricing.
He also emphasizes the need for reimagining and redeveloping cities to address the challenges in the commercial real estate sector. Overall, Whalen believes that the economy is producing nominal growth but that people are struggling due to rising costs.
Links:
Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/rcwhalen
Website: https://www.rcwhalen.com/
The Institutional Risk Analyst: https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/
The Death of Leverage; What’s the WAC of Bank America? https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/post/the-death-of-leverage-what-s-the-wac-of-bank-america
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro and welcome Chris Whalen
0:55 Macro view, we’re in a weird dichotomy
2:55 Higher interest rates
4:03 Rate outlook
7:13 5 handle on 10-year treasury
10:18 The death of leverage
12:00 Confidence
16:43 Silent crisis in commercial real estate
20:25 A qualitative recession
25:15 Election year
27:23 Higher rates and impact on investor behavior
32:30 Goodbye -
#163 Professor Scott Galloway: We're Turning Into Something That's Not Very American
Scott Galloway, Professor of Marketing at NYU Stern School of Business, returns to the pod to join Julia La Roche on episode 163 to discuss his newest book, “The Algebra of Wealth: A Simple Formula for Financial Security.”
The Algebra of Wealth book: https://www.amazon.com/Algebra-Wealth-Formula-Financial-Security/dp/0593714024
0:00 Intro and welcome Scott Galloway
1:04 Macro picture of the economy
3:03 Prosperity is not evenly distributed generationally
5:32 The Algebra of Wealth
7:30 Don’t follow your passion, follow your talent
9:20 Focus + Stoicism x Time x Diversification
9:56 Galloway went broke twice
12:25 Divorce
13:30 Having children
15:35 Myth of balance
17:00 Raised by a single mom
21:00 We’re turning into something that’s not very American
25:31 Investing and harvesting
27:00 Our economic policy is we’ve declared war on the young
24:47 Universities, free speech, and antisemitism on campuses
32:32 DEI
38:15 Masculinity
50:00 Parting thoughts -
#162 Keith Fitz-Gerald, Investor Who Nailed 2023 Market Rally, Says The Fed Doesn’t Matter — Investing In Optimism Does
Keith Fitz-Gerald, principal of the Fitz-Gerald Group, shares his macro view of the world and the five big picture lenses through which he sees the world.
He believes that investing in optimism and knowing where the world is going is better than trying to be right at specific moments in time. He emphasizes the importance of focusing on companies that have great demand for their products and services and can change consumer behavior. Keith also discusses the role of the Fed and the importance of investing in optimism rather than trying to second-guess the unpredictable actions of the Fed.
Link: https://www.keithfitz-gerald.com/
00:00 Introduction and welcome Keith to the show
0:53 Simple is better
1:50 The five Ds
2:50 Does the Fed matter?
5:30 The AI Opportunity and Changing the World
8:22 Keith Fitz-Gerald’s S&P 4750 target in 2023
10:50 Buying right now — chaos creates opportunity
13:00 History doesn’t repeat, but it rhymes
14:00 Geopolitics and markets
15:55 When in doubt, zoom out
17:13 Portfolio construction
19:03 Took out S&P 500 price target, 5500-5600 may be next stop
20:20 The Fed needs to stay on sidelines
22:40 Are markets healthy?
26:00 Outlook for the U.S.
26:50 Gold
29:20 Parting thoughts -
#161 Michael Howell On Global Liquidity, A Re-entry Point For Risk Assets, Monetary Inflation, Gold, The US Dollar
Michael Howell, CEO of CrossBorder Capital, an investment advisory firm, and author of the book, “Capital Wars: The Rise Of Global Liquidity,” returns to The Julia La Roche for episode 161 to discuss the global liquidity cycle and its impact on the economy.
He explains that liquidity is a key driver of asset prices and that the current liquidity cycle is pushing asset prices higher. Howell argues that the focus on interest rates and policy rates is misplaced, and that the long-term rate and liquidity are more important factors. He also highlights the importance of liquidity in the refinancing of debt and warns of the risks of a liquidity shortage. Howell suggests that investors should consider assets like gold, cryptocurrencies, and solid companies on Wall Street as hedges against monetary inflation.
Links:
Website: http://www.crossbordercapital.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/crossbordercap
Substack: https://capitalwars.substack.com/
Book: https://www.amazon.com/Capital-Wars-Rise-Global-Liquidity/dp/3030392902
Takeaways
Liquidity is a key driver of asset prices and the current liquidity cycle is pushing asset prices higher.
The focus on interest rates and policy rates is misplaced; the long-term rate and liquidity are more important factors.
A shortage of liquidity can lead to banking and refinancing crises.
Investors should consider assets like gold, cryptocurrencies, and solid companies on Wall Street as hedges against monetary inflation.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
1:38 Macro view + liquidity cycle
3:07 Interest rates
6:10 What really matters is the integrity of the US Treasury market
07:47 Hedging Against Monetary Inflation
9:16 Gold
11:56 US public debt
15:15 Monetizing the debt
18:06 Gold is the pole star in the financial system
20:40 US dollar
26:29 Inverted yield curve
31:37 Conclusion and parting thoughts -
#160 Bill Fleckenstein: The Fed Is Trapped And Unable To Fight Inflation
Bill Fleckenstein, president and founder of Fleckenstein Capital, discusses the macro view of the world and the impact of the Federal Reserve's monetary policies.
He criticizes the Fed for its incompetence and reckless policies that have led to the creation of two huge bubbles and misallocated capital.
Fleckenstein also highlights the power of the passive bid in distorting the market and the importance of understanding its effects. He believes that the stock market has become a lagging indicator and that the Fed is trapped and unable to fight inflation.
Elsewhere, Fleckenstein discusses the bond market, gold, and silver. He also expresses concerns about the US national debt and the lack of fiscal responsibility.
Links:
Book: https://www.amazon.com/Greenspans-Bubbles-Ignorance-Federal-Reserve/dp/0071591583
Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/fleckcap
Website:https://www.fleckensteincapital.com/
Takeaways
The Federal Reserve's incompetence and reckless policies have led to the creation of two huge bubbles and misallocated capital.
The passive bid, driven by defined contribution plans and 401k plans, has distorted the market and changed what works and what doesn't.
The stock market has become a lagging indicator, and the Fed is trapped and unable to fight inflation.
The US national debt is a significant concern, and there is a lack of fiscal responsibility.
Gold and silver are seen as insurance policies against inflation and financial disruptions.
Chapters
0:00 Introduction and welcome Bill Fleckenstein
0:55 Macro view and what the Fed does really matters
4:30 The distorting effects of the passive bid
6:30 The stock market is a lagging indicator
10:45 Equity markets in a bubble or not?
13:30 End game — long end of the bond market rates rise
18:26 Inflation and the inflation psychology
23:53 The Fed’s inflation fight, Fed cutting rates would be an obvious mistake
26:30 The economy and millennials
29:49 Gold price, gold market has figured out Fed is trapped
34:44 Silver
37:04 Outlook on the U.S. and conclusion -
#159 Lyn Alden On Fiscal Dominance Macro Backdrop, Why The Rise In Gold Is Indicative Of Fiscal Problems, And Why Bitcoin Could Hit Six-Figures In This Cycle
Investment researcher and macroeconomic analyst Lyn Alden, founder of Lyn Alden Investment Strategy, joins Julia La Roche on episode 159 to discuss the macro view of the economy, focusing on fiscal dominance.
Alden highlights the wide performance gaps between sectors, which are influenced by fiscal and monetary policies. She discusses the implications of fiscal dominance and the challenges it poses for the Fed's tools to control inflation.
Alden also shares her insights on asset markets, including the rise of gold, Bitcoin, and undervalued energy stocks.
Links:
https://www.lynalden.com/
https://www.amazon.com/Broken-Money-Financial-System-Failing/dp/B0CG83QBJ6
https://twitter.com/LynAldenContact
00:00 Introduction and overview
01:16 Fiscal dominance and its impact sectors
04:37 Fiscal dominance, explained
09:37 Higher highs, higher lows of inflations in 2020s
12:20 Ironically stimulative
16:18 Assessment of the economy, is it healthy?
18:53 Asset markets, rise in gold is indicative of fiscal problems
22:00 undervalued energy stocks and their catalysts
25:33 Insights on Bitcoin, its performance, why it could hit six-figures in next two years
30:17 Conclusion and parting thoughts