We Can Do Hard Things with Glennon Doyle Glennon Doyle & Cadence13

Pioneering sports journalist – the brilliant, hilarious, badass Sarah Spain – joins us to reflect on:

1. One of our most popular episodes – Episode 147: The Episode That Wasn’t – when we ended an interview after the guest was disrespectful to our team member;
2. The constant indignities and inequities in male-dominated fields;
3. To report or not to report harassment – and what actually happens when you do report?; and
4. How to help ourselves – and come together to help each other – secure safer and more just work spaces.  

CW: sexual harassment 

About Sarah: 
Sarah Spain is an Emmy and Peabody Award-winning sports journalist. In her 12+ years at ESPN she has worked as a radio and podcast host, writer and TV analyst. She's a minority owner of the Chicago Red Stars of the NWSL, a co-founder of “Hear The Cheers,” which provides hearing aids and equipment to kids so they can continue participating in sports, and is on the board of Embarc, a program that provides community-driven experiences and learning opportunities to low-income Chicago high school students. 

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1. When is it too late to cancel on someone?
2. How do we split the bill?
3. Text messages: What NOT to do, and is there time-induced amnesty?
4. Phone calls in public: Hell no, or do what you wish?
5. Once and for all: Can we agree on how we all get off the plane? 

Today, Abby – whose mom sent her to etiquette school to learn to be a “lady” – and Glennon and Amanda – whose mom did not – discuss the New Rules for being human while surrounded by humans; the thin line between manners meant to offer consideration vs. manners meant to signal superiority; how we are all inadvertently insulting each other; and where we go from here.

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In Part 2 of this Abby conversation, Abby shared the greatest gift she’s ever received. In this Part 3, we dive into: exactly what happened that magical morning from Abby, Glennon, and Amanda’s perspective; Craig’s reaction; and why it was that singular moment that Abby finally felt fully loved and chosen.

If you haven’t listened to Part 1, check it out here: Episode 188 Abby Wambach: Will I Ever Be Truly Loved? 
If you didn’t catch Part 2, listen here: Episode 189 Abby for the 1st Time On Divorce & Her Unrequited Love.

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In Part 2 of our deeply personal interview with Abby, she reveals for the first time:

1. Her romance with an unrequited love – someone who strung her along hopelessly for years;
2. Her anguish and rebirth after being arrested;
3. Her sense of loss when being crowned FIFA Player of the Year; 
4. Her divorce after fighting for marriage equality – inside her own family and on the public stage; and 
5. The night she met Glennon.

Before you start the episode, please go back and listen to Part 1 of our interview with Abby: We Can Do Hard Things Episode 188 Abby Wambach: Will I Ever Be Truly Loved?

And come back tomorrow for Abby’s *very* special Part 3 bonus episode!

ABOUT ABBY WAMBACH:
Olympian, Activist, Author, and Co-host of the We Can Do Hard Things Podcast
Abby Wambach is a two-time Olympic gold medalist, FIFA World Cup Champion, and six-time winner of the U.S. Soccer Athlete of the Year award. She was the United States’ leading scorer in the 2007 and 2011 Women’s World Cup tournaments and the 2004 and 2012 Olympics. Abby is the host of ABBY’S PLACES on ESPN+, in which she showcases what makes her beloved sport of soccer a worldwide sensation. An activist for equality and inclusion, she is the author of the #1 New York Times bestseller WOLFPACK as well as the adaptation of WOLFPACK for the next generation, an instant New York Times bestseller. She is a founder and part owner of Angel City FC, the first majority-female-owned soccer team in history, and is a member of the Board of Directors for the non-profit organization Together Rising. Abby lives in California with her wife and their three children.

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This is the one!  

Our favorite person on the planet – Abby Wambach – is going deep, answering the questions that we all have, but that only Glennon and Amanda can ask.  

Abby shares, in an intensely new and courageous way, about her lifelong pursuit of love  – including her complicated relationships with her mom, soccer, her first marriage, queerness, and her “shadow self” – and why she has questioned her own lovability for so much of her life.


ABOUT ABBY WAMBACH:
Olympian, Activist, Author, and Co-host of the We Can Do Hard Things Podcast
Abby Wambach is a two-time Olympic gold medalist, FIFA World Cup Champion, and six-time winner of the U.S. Soccer Athlete of the Year award. She was the United States’ leading scorer in the 2007 and 2011 Women’s World Cup tournaments and the 2004 and 2012 Olympics. Abby is the host of ABBY’S PLACES on ESPN+, in which she showcases what makes her beloved sport of soccer a worldwide sensation. An activist for equality and inclusion, she is the author of the #1 New York Times bestseller WOLFPACK as well as the adaptation of WOLFPACK for the next generation, an instant New York Times bestseller. She is a founder and part owner of Angel City FC, the first majority-female-owned soccer team in history, and is a member of the Board of Directors for the non-profit organization Together Rising. Abby lives in California with her wife and their three children.

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1. How to listen to the signals our bodies give us, and other concrete strategies to hold on to being human.
2. The healing power of honoring and reconnecting with our little girl selves and with our Mother Earth.
3. How, if all else fails, we can practice presence and embodiment by talking to a house plant.  
4. The traumatizing effect of purity culture, colonization, and assimilation, and how to come home to the wholeness of our core nature, desire, and wisdom. 
5. Concrete, everyday acts of rebellion that help us regain what we lost, and restore us to who we really are. 

About Kaitlin: 
Kaitlin Curtice is an award-winning author, poet-storyteller, and public speaker. As an enrolled citizen of the Potawatomi nation, Kaitlin writes on the intersections of spirituality and identity. She is a wise and vital voice on decolonizing our bodies, faith, and families, and the freedom and peace of embodiment - finding wholeness in ourselves, our stories, and our lineage. Her new book, Living Resistance: An Indigenous Vision for Seeking Wholeness Every Day, examines the journey of resisting the status quo by caring for ourselves, one another, and Mother Earth – and is available now. Find her on Twitter and Instagram at @kaitlincurtice.

If you want to hear more about Embodiment, please listen to the We Can Do Hard Things episode 168 Sonya Renee Taylor: What If You Loved Your Body?

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