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Alex Apollonov and Aleksa Vulovic are the co-hosts of the youtube channel Boy_Boy who have built an epic following thanks to their adventures in democracy, civics and capitalism. They share how they snuck into the super secret spy base Pine Gap and the of ramifications of getting caught.
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G'day Fearmongers,
Here's is this week's Ad Free version of A Rational Fear.
It will be of no surprise to the listeners of A Rational Fear that Australia's future security is tied to the USA. So whatever our big brother on the other side of the world is going through, we'll share the pain.
Made evident this week with the news that the big AUKUS submarine deal that was struck a couple of years ago is already slowly falling apart with the US Congress deciding that they're not going provide Australia with one of the refurbished subs as part of the deal, because their shipyards are falling behind in production and can't supply their own country.
Joy! We could instead be running behind schedule and over budget on a French submarine right now, instead we haven't even managed to get the chance to be over budget and behind on an American one.
Such is life of a middle power.
On this episode we chat with two people who have come face to face with one of the most secretive parts of the US defence apparatus in Australia.
Aleksa and Alex from the YouTube channel BoyBoy join us to talk us through their adventure trying to get into the Pine Gap facility in central Australia. They talk about the lack of Australian sovereignty and the ties between Australia and the United States. The conversation covers Gough Whitlam's dismissal, the ANZUS treaty, and the security at Pine Gap. They also share their experiences with law enforcement and the challenges of creating content that pushes boundaries. The episode ends with a discussion on the repercussions and legal advice they received.

Watch the BoyBoy Video here: https://youtu.be/XHMa-Ba-2Mo?si=MSLyhlt0yNlKBBJF

Cheers

Dan

Takeaways

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Return
03:05 News Updates
04:03 Introducing Lewis Hobb
04:51 Introduction of Boy Boy
05:15 Success on YouTube
06:41 Discussion on Australian Sovereignty
09:20 Pine Gap and Gough Whitlam
10:45 ANZUS Treaty
11:11 Common Danger
12:40 Gough Whitlam's Dismissal
13:34 Ray Martin's Experience
14:22 Meeting People at Pine Gap
15:44 Interaction at a Pub
19:34 Fear and Risk
20:56 Security and Firing Range
22:23 Encounter with Utah Police
25:06 AFP Encounter
26:51 American Police
28:15 Oak Bluffs Experience
30:05 Spending Time with Friendly Jordy's
32:49 Repercussions and Legal Advice
35:39 Boy Boy's Lawyer
37:26 Impact of Boy Boy's Video
38:22 Conclusion and Plugs

Thank You Fearmongers!

I'm so grateful for everyone who has supported A Rational Fear here on Patreon and Apple — it is literally what paid for this show you're about to listen to which is why I decided to most of it behind the paywall — it's your show!

Shows like this are expensive, and require poster runs, design work, video work, fees for guests, train tickets, flights, accomodation, photos, giving Meta money to put it in your Instagram feeds and a selection of assorted booze backstage — with out a regular Patreon kitty to draw from each month — it's impossible to break even.

We had a great time, and made a great show!

1,000,000 downloads really isn't a huge amount, but it's a FUN amount with a lot of 0s. And when you're looking at reasons to talk about the show, it's a great one.

I was hosting an event today in Wollongong where folks came up to talk about A Rational Fear, a woman at the gym yesterday said she recently discovered it and loved Peter Dutton hosting the end of year special.

More and more people are joining our little community, and it brings me joy that we're, yes i'm including you, this ragtag bunch of troublemakers having a fun time calling BS from the sidelines.

It's fun.

Hopefully, we're making you laugh, give you a sense of catharsis, and when we pull of stunts from time to time, hope you feel kind-of powerful.

The whole team is super thankful for your support and sticking with us.

You truly keep the show on the road.

Cheers


Dan.

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Celebrating 1,000,000 downloads live in Melbourne at the Malthouse Theatre
This is the show that rips into the news with the the best and brightest including
Charlie Pickering.
Sami Shah.
Kirsty Webeck
Richard Fidler
DJ Andrew McClelland.


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John Delmenico, the editor of The Chaser, joins the podcast to discuss his role and the future of the publication. John shares his journey from dropping out of university to becoming a writer for The Chaser and eventually the editor. He talks about the process of writing satire, the challenges of covering politics, and the need for a fresh approach in 2024. John also discusses the revenue model of The Chaser and his experience as a young leader in the media industry.
John has been writing jokes for The Chaser for ages, and if you're one of those people who are terminally online you certainly would have come across his work on Twitter, as well as his fine headlines and articles.
If you like conversations about media, comedy and the craft of making jokes and business of making money from them, this is a great podcast.
Also John shares his unlikely journey from youth stoke victim to punchline king.
Dan
P.S. Melbourne, we'll see you at the live show at the Malthouse Theatre: https://www.malthousetheatre.com.au/what-s-on/malthouse-outdoor-stage/a-rational-fear/

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Here's a full episode just for you.

John Delmenico, the editor of The Chaser, joins the podcast to discuss his role and the future of the publication. John shares his journey from dropping out of university to becoming a writer for The Chaser and eventually the editor. He talks about the process of writing satire, the challenges of covering politics, and the need for a fresh approach in 2024. John also discusses the revenue model of The Chaser and his experience as a young leader in the media industry.

John has been writing jokes for The Chaser for ages, and if you're one of those people who are terminally online you certainly would have come across his work on Twitter, as well as his fine headlines and articles.

If you like conversations about media, comedy and the craft of making jokes and business of making money from them, this is a great podcast.

Also John shares his unlikely journey from youth stoke victim to punchline king.

Dan

P.S. Melbourne, we'll see you at the live show at the Malthouse Theatre: https://www.malthousetheatre.com.au/what-s-on/malthouse-outdoor-stage/a-rational-fear/