9 episodes

We mix Water, Poo, and Data.The Flush to Data podcast invites conversations about the data, models, and science used in wastewater engineering. Your hosts are Jörg Rieckermann (Eawag, Dübendorf, Switzerland) and Kris Villez (Oak Ridge National Laboratory, TN, USA). The contributions of Kris Villez to this podcast are a reflection of personal opinion only and are not related to any project, study, or opinion at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory or the U.S. Department of Energy. ---- Credits: ---- In our Trailer and intro we use the beautiful music from the "Obliterator" Amiga game by the incredible David Whittaker https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Whittaker_(video_game_composer) we also use creative common artwork distributed under a CC BY-ND 2.0 license. Check out our homepage for more info --- https://flush2data.gitlab.io

Flush to Data Kris Villez and Jörg Rieckermann

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We mix Water, Poo, and Data.The Flush to Data podcast invites conversations about the data, models, and science used in wastewater engineering. Your hosts are Jörg Rieckermann (Eawag, Dübendorf, Switzerland) and Kris Villez (Oak Ridge National Laboratory, TN, USA). The contributions of Kris Villez to this podcast are a reflection of personal opinion only and are not related to any project, study, or opinion at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory or the U.S. Department of Energy. ---- Credits: ---- In our Trailer and intro we use the beautiful music from the "Obliterator" Amiga game by the incredible David Whittaker https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Whittaker_(video_game_composer) we also use creative common artwork distributed under a CC BY-ND 2.0 license. Check out our homepage for more info --- https://flush2data.gitlab.io

    [Episode 07] Linda Åmand

    [Episode 07] Linda Åmand

    We are back! This is the seventh episode of the Flush to Data podcast. We started with an introduction to the IVL institute, discussed all sorts of data and ended with notes on the unique features of the wastewater industry. In the extras, you'll here about redundancy and data needs. Thanks Linda!

    Episode guide:
    [00:00:00] Intro
    [00:01:40] Who is Linda Åmand?
    [00:03:40] IVL Swedish Environmental Research Institute - What is it?
    [00:05:35] Wastewater data
    [00:08:30] What does a production manager do at a wastewater treatment plant?
    [00:09:55] Are Nordic countries leading the pack in process automation? and why?
    [00:15:50] Never trust a sensor?
    [00:19:00] The lab measurement rules them all
    [00:24:25] The information hidden in our data
    [00:29:30] Meta-data and trust in data

    [00:34:00] Intermezzo!
    [00:42:15] Why measure? Integrating data into day-to-day decisions
    [00:48:55] Cost of digital maintenance
    [00:55:30] Data scientists: Get stuck in wastewater!
    [01:01:10] Is the wastewater business unique?
    [01:04:30] Goodbye and see you soon!

    Extras:
    [01:05:20] Machine-to-machine communication, cybersecurity
    [01:08:15] What kind of measurements are missing?
    [01:11:40] How will work on the plant change?
    [01:14:30] Integrated management of sewers, treatment plants, and receiving water?
    [01:19:30] Redundancy and resolution
    [01:24:30] What needs to be better?
    [01:28:30] Thank you!

    Links:
    Käppalaförbundet: www.kappala.se
    IVL: www.ivl.se
    Smart utilities book: https://www.iwapublishing.com/books/9781780407579/smart-water-utilities-complexity-made-simple

    • 1 hr 29 min
    [Episode 06] Ali Gagnon

    [Episode 06] Ali Gagnon

    This is the sixth episode of the Flush to Data podcast. We started with a discussion on PI controllers, following by some exploration into model predictive control, human issues, and data and sensor management. Thanks Ali!

    Episode guide:
    [00:00:00] Intro
    [00:01:06] Who is Ali Gagnon?
    [00:03:44] Getting into automation
    [00:05:41] What is AvN? 
    [00:06:21] What is cascade control?
    [00:07:46] Where is Proportional-Integral (PI) control used?
    [00:09:21] What is VFD?
    [00:09:51] Should we move away from PI control?
    [00:11:36] Tuning PI control loops
    [00:15:46] How to convince the operator of introducing disturbances?
    [00:21:34] Tuning PI control loops (part II)
    [00:25:01] Intermezzo!
    [00:29:01] Where does PI control meet its limits?
    [00:32:01] Should we use mechanistic models or data-driven models for model predictive control (MPC)?
    [00:36:51] How to communicate abstract or theoretical concepts to team members?
    [00:39:51] How to quantify performance of new tools or sensors without objective reference condition?
    [00:44:27] Will Ali lose her jobs to robots?
    [00:46:11] Meta-data issues, sensor issues, data management
    [00:54:46] What to expect beyond the data quality barrier?
    [00:57:01] Thank you!
    [00:57:18] Extras 
    [00:58:06] Short-cutting the water cycle, future challenges, and new processes
    [01:02:41] Digital twins: Integration with legacy systems and cyber-security
    [01:07:21] Learning should not end
    [01:08:41] Goodbye and see you soon!

    Quote from "Man-Computer Symbiosis" (J.R. Licklider, 1960), collected after recording, in response to question about fear for job loss?
    "Men will set the goals and supply the motivations, of course, at least in the early years. They will formulate hypotheses. They will ask questions. They will think of mechanisms, procedures, and models. They will remember that such-and-such a person did some possibly relevant work on a topic of interest back in 1947, or at any rate shortly after World War II, and they will have an idea in what journals it might have been published. In general, they will make approximate and fallible, but leading, contributions, and they will define criteria and serve as evaluators, judging the contributions of the equipment and guiding the general line of thought.

    In addition, men will handle the very-low-probability situations when such situations do actually arise. (In current man-machine systems, that is one of the human operator's most important functions. The sum of the probabilities of very-low-probability alternatives is often much too large to neglect.) Men will fill in the gaps, either in the problem solution or in the computer program, when the computer has no mode or routine that is applicable in a particular circumstance."

    Links:
    - Automation of Water Resource Recovery Facilities - WEF Manual of Practice No. 21 (4th Edition) (WEF Store is being updated at the moment, so no link sorry.) -IWA Instrumentation, Control and Automation in Wastewater Systems STR, https://www.iwapublishing.com/books/9781900222839/instrumentation-control-and-automation-wastewater-systems
    - Aeration, Mixing, and Energy: Bubble and Sparks, https://iwaponline.com/ebooks/book/734/Aeration-Mixing-and-Energy-Bubbles-and-Sparks
    - Control Blog: https://blog.opticontrols.com/ 
    - ICA and me - a Subjective review, https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0043135411008487

    • 1 hr 9 min
    [Episode 05] Lina Belia

    [Episode 05] Lina Belia

    This is the fifth episode of the Flush to Data podcast. We started with a discussion on wastewater simulation software, following by some deep dives into uncertainty. Thanks Lina!

    Episode guide:
    [00:00:00] Intro - Who is Lina Belia?
    [00:05:30] Wastewater engineers save more lives than doctors
    [00:07:40] How does a wastewater simulator look like and what can it do?
    [00:12:17] Uncertainty analysis in wastewater treatment practice
    [00:16:15] The roots of the Design and Operational Uncertainty Task Group (DOUT)
    [00:21:45] Uncertainty analysis is now mature and used widely
    [00:24:13] The main messages of the DOUT report
    [00:31:28] Uncertainty propagation is solved
    [00:33:25] Unresolved sources of uncertainty
    [00:36:45] Intermezzo: Deep fun
    [00:41:45] Can uncertainty analysis account for black swan events?
    [00:47:55] Instrumentation and control to account for black swan events.
    [00:50:20] Goodbye for now!

    Link to the DOUT report, published by IWA:
    https://www.iwapublishing.com/books/9781780401027/uncertainty-wastewater-treatment-design-and-operation 

    • 50 min
    Episode 04 - Open Science

    Episode 04 - Open Science

    This is the fourth episode of the Flush to Data podcast. We start of discussing open science. We venture into many related aspects such as scientific reproducibility, scientific career evaluation, software versioning, and the distinction between the scientific process and academic institutes.

    Hosts: Jörg Rieckermann and Kris Villez
    Guest: Juan Pablo Carbajal (Hochschule für Technik Rapperswil, Rapperswil, Switzerland)
    Links:
    * Juan Pablo's web page: https://sites.google.com/site/juanpicarbajal/
    * OSF - Open Science Framework: https://www.cos.io/our-products/osf
    * A publication on the scientific mission: https://dx.doi.org/10.4161%2Fcib.1.1.6285
    * Open peer review: https://peercommunityin.org/
    * Book "On Fact and Fraud: Cautionary Tales from the Front Lines of Science ": https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt7s7j4
    * Goodhart's law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart's_law

    Episode guide:
    [00:00:19] Typical approach to sharing of scientific results today vs. new approaches
    [00:07:20] Is the product of science a pdf document?
    [00:11:15] Juan Pablo's approach to producing and sharing results
    [00:19:50] Pre-register your study and methods to mitigate the risk of (inadvertent) p-hacking
    [00:27:10] Utility of open data, FAIR principles, copyright, licenses, sensitive data
    [00:45:50] Open peer review
    [00:54:10] Evaluating scientific careers
    [01:04:55] Practical measures to achieve the goals of open science
    [01:07:40] Science is ...
    [01:08:35] Closing main session
    [01:09:10] Start bonus session
    [01:09:15] Is open science a sad story?
    [01:11:50] Publish or perish
    [01:15:25] Creating knowledge is easier than ever - Can open science be weaponized?
    [01:24:04] Why do we publish? Why do we stay in the system?

    • 1 hr 31 min
    Episode 03 - Integrated assessment - Bonus track

    Episode 03 - Integrated assessment - Bonus track

    This is the bonus material to the 1st episode of the Flush to Data podcast  with Prof. Dr. Peter A. Vanrolleghem. We discuss research on particles in wastewater and Einstein's opinion on them, compliance assessment, innovation, .

    Links:
    - Peter A. Vanrolleghem's group website: https://modeleau.fsg.ulaval.ca/a-propos/accueil/
    - Original article describing the scanner-based settl-o-meter: https://doi.org/10.1016/0273-1223(96)00157-6
    - Presentation on particles:
    - Einstein's 2 cents on particles: https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/99EO00128
    - The number 73 and the number 5318008: https://bigbangtheory.fandom.com/wiki/The_Alien_Parasite_Hypothesis

    Bonus track:
    [0:00:00] Particles 
    [0:05:35] Einstein's 2 cents
    [0:08:48] Compliance assessment, fusing hardware sensors with model-based soft-sensors
    [0:15:12] Do regulations affect innovation?
    [0:16:20] The number 73
    [0:19:25] Particles once more - Lagoons, bubbling sediments, and unpublished tricks
    [0:24:40] Thanks and goodbye!

    • 24 min
    Episode 03 - Integrated Assessment

    Episode 03 - Integrated Assessment

    This is the 3rd episode of the Flush to Data podcast. Our guest is Prof. Dr. Peter A. Vanrolleghem. We discuss the cubEAU, experimental design, data quality, model adequacy, open hardware, and bathing in open waters.

    Links:
    - Peter A. Vanrolleghem's group website: https://modeleau.fsg.ulaval.ca/a-propos/accueil/
    - Original article describing the scanner-based settl-o-meter: https://doi.org/10.1016/0273-1223(96)00157-6
    - Presentation on particles:
    - Einstein's 2 cents on particles: https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/99EO00128
    - The number 73 and the number 5318008: https://bigbangtheory.fandom.com/wiki/The_Alien_Parasite_Hypothesis


    [0:00:00] Intro
    [0:01:20] The cubEAU - a structure to manage scientific activity as a function of challenges, methodology, and application area.
    [0:10:10] Experimental design - A generally applicable tool
    [0:15:05] Ongoing issues with online sensors.
    [0:18:15] Adding stochastic variations into models to account for information contained in new data sources
    [0:25:35] The value of field work and data collection
    [0:26:15] Intermezzo
    [0:30:32] Monitoring environmental systems
    [0:35:11] Open hardware, open software, patents, licensing
    [0:39:10] Back to sensors
    [0:42:25] Bathing in the St-Lawrence river
    [0:47:45] Thanks and goodbye!

    • 48 min

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