Next Level Agents: The Kevin & Fred Show - Interviews with the best and brightest minds in the real estate industry Kevin Kauffman and Fred Weaver

As agents, building a database and adding value to our sphere has been drilled into us. We took that same mindset and strategy, and applied it to our peers and agent relationships. Just like we’re told to host events and send gifts to our top clients, we do the same for the agent community. 

We can attribute getting into this business and succeeding in it to the different agents and entrepreneurs who advised us. Now we get to give back to the same community and show people that there are many different ways to succeed in this business. 

We also have to attribute our real estate business and successful partnership to dumb luck and many things that just fell into place and put us in the way of luck. Today, I sat down with our good friend, mortgage industry leader, business coach, and VP/Branch Manager of Nova Home Loans, Greg Gale. We talk about our business journey and all the things we’ve managed to build. 

Quotes 

We’ve never once fought over a dollar. We disagree, we have different opinions but we never fight over it. What’s more important is where we’re going and our end goal. -Kevin Kauffman  

The word mastermind has been bastardized by our industry. What many call masterminds are actually classes. -Kevin Kauffman  

If you do your business towards what you’re built for, it’s going to be way better. -Greg Gale

Guest Info

Greg Gale is a mortgage industry leader, business coach, and VP/Branch Manager of Nova Home Loans. Greg joined the mortgage industry in 2005. Prior to that, he was a personal trainer and martial arts instructor for 17 years. Greg notes that 20 years of martial arts, where persistence, honor, and integrity are the heart of daily practice, was a perfect lead into his role as financial advisor in the mortgage industry. The Gale Team at NOVA Home Loans is a full-service loan origination service, committed to providing innovative mortgage solutions and real estate strategies. In his role as team leader, Greg stresses the importance of integrity, a positive attitude, patience, creativity, and respect for all things. 

This team defines communication as one of the single most important elements in a successful loan transaction. They are committed to returning calls promptly, providing regular status updates, and being available as needed throughout the process. Greg and his team really listen to clients’ needs and then seek the best possible solutions, more often than not exceeding their client’s expectations. The team’s priority is to provide exceptional and memorable service. On a personal note, Greg is absolutely passionate about helping other people and is a regular contributor to the American Heart Association and Susan G. Komen Foundation. Greg is also a member of the National Association of Mortgage Brokers and the Arizona Association of Mortgage Brokers. 

Follow @greg_gale_ on Instagram.  

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Human beings are an aspiration and progress-based species, and money is the currency of this game. We’re always going to chase growth and success, and that comes with a lot of social debt and expectations, but if we’re not careful, that will get us in big trouble. We might find ourselves making decisions based on what impresses others, not what makes our lives better, and that’s the wrong way to go about things. 

Many people would rather buy an entry level BMW, for the bragging rights, not the driving experience. The better decision is to aim for the high-end Toyota - it’s not too expensive or flashy, but it’s filled with things that actually enhance your life. 

We can apply this mindset to homes, careers, and vacations. If we learn not to play the expectations game, we can be happier and we can also have a better relationship with money. 

Today, we’re joined by the bestselling author of The Psychology of Money and Same As Ever, Morgan Housel. He shares money mindsets that get us in trouble and how to shift away from them. 

Books Mentioned 
No Ordinary Time: Franklin & Eleanor Roosevelt: The Home Front in World War II
​​April 1865: The Month That Saved America Book by Jay Winik
1944: FDR and the Year That Changed History by Jay Winik

Guest Info

Morgan Housel is a partner at The Collaborative Fund. He's the New York Times Bestselling author of The Psychology of Money and Same As Ever. His books have sold over five million copies and have been translated into more than 50 languages. He is a two-time winner of the Best in Business Award from the Society of American Business Editors and Writers, and winner of the New York Times Sidney Award. In 2022, MarketWatch named him one of the 50 most influential people in markets. He serves on the board of directors at Markel. 

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When you look at high performers, it’s hard to tell exactly what they do differently, but what’s clear is that their results aren’t the same as ours. Many people try to mimic them on the surface - eat what they eat, read the books they read, go where they go, but it doesn’t work. 

You know what you’re supposed to do, you’ve got the tactics, the information and you spend thousands on coaching and masterminds, but you’re still not doing it. What holds us back, and how can we adapt the mindset of high performers to get what we want? 

What separates us from the high performers aren’t big leaps, it’s actually 2mm shifts that make all the difference. What creates growth, success and results are small, tiny tweaks to what everyone does, not the huge changes we assume lead to success. 

If we’re looking to level up, implementing these 2mm changes can lead us to everything we want in business and life. Today, peak performance coach Kamille Rose Taylor shares the small shifts that can change everything. 

Quotes 

Turbulence hits most when you’re pushing for growth. -Kamille Rose Taylor  

Understand that you can’t be fearful and grateful at the exact same time. The brain does not have capacity for it. -Kamille Rose Taylor

If you suck at something, that means you’re willing to grow. You’re trying. -Kamille Rose Taylor

Guest Info

Kamille Rose Taylor is the #1 Peak Performance Mindset Coach to Entrepreneurs and Leaders and Member of the Forbes Coaches Council. She is an entrepreneur, transformational speaker, and Peak Performance Coach to entrepreneurs, leaders, and executives. After completing two years of premed study at UC Berkeley, Kamille hit a critical turn around moment when she realized that she was not destined to be a doctor but rather to help people in a totally different way. Kamille knew she wanted to support leaders in reaching their ultimate potential in life by removing the psychological patterns that blocked them from doing so. So she completed a double bachelors in Psychology and Mass Communications.

Today, she is the CEO and Founder of The Ultimate LYFE, a leadership mindset training company that helps entrepreneurs and leaders achieve ultimate success in their personal and professional life. She is also a keynote speaker for Fortune 500 companies, national conferences, and continues to expand her research on human peak performance as a member of the Forbes Coaches Council, The World Class Speakers Alliance, and travels around the world speaking to diverse communities and companies on how to master their mindset. 

Follow @imkamillerose on Instagram and text NEXT LEVEL to (818) 583-7068. 

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The NAR buyer’s agent litigation has been a huge topic and concern for agents across the country for months. Now that the lawsuit has been settled, there’s a lot of panic, knee-jerk reactions, assumptions and worries about what it means. 

Are we in trouble? Should we be worried about our future? No. 

It’s just too soon to make a final conclusion on the matter. Everyone’s thinking that this is bad news, but it’s just too early to believe that. Nothing is final, and there are definitely more questions than answers at the moment. 

What isn’t a question is what we have to do (and what we’ve always had to do) - provide value. As long as we’re leading with value and being consultants who are in for our clients, no ruling will change anything. In many ways, this settlement is actually good news because it forces us to raise our standards as an industry. 

Today, we’re joined by eXp’s Chief Growth Officer, Michael Valdes to discuss what this settlement means and why the sky isn’t falling, like many people think it is. 

Guest Info

Michael Valdes is the Chief Growth Officer of eXp Global. He is currently one of the very few Latino C-suite executives of a publicly traded real estate company in the country (Nasdaq: EXPI). He has led a team which has opened 23 countries in 22 months without ever getting on a plane which is a feat that has never been done in the industry. This model has successfully touched the lives of thousands of people across the globe and given them an opportunity to change their lives.

Michael was the former Senior Vice President of Global Servicing for Realogy Corporation. In that role he oversaw the international servicing platform for all Realogy brands including Century 21, Coldwell Banker, ERA, Better Homes & Garden, Corcoran, Climb and Sotheby’s International Realty in 113 countries. He had been with Realogy in a variety of roles for 15 years. Prior to that, Mr. Valdes was Director of Private Banking at Deutsche Bank for a decade where he oversaw a book of business of just under $1 billion. He has the distinction of being the first Director in the United States of Latino descent. Connect with Michael on LinkedIn and 


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In today’s market, most of us are coming up against the same problem - belligerent sellers who think their home is worth more than everyone’s saying it is. Under normal circumstances, that means no deal, but there’s strategy for these kinds of leads, creative finance. 

Creative finance is an incredibly simple strategy that many in real estate treat as illegal or wrong. The truth is, the people who do creative finance, make the water muddy so you think it’s deep, it’s actually something a lot of us can easily do. 

We have thousands of creative finance deals sitting in our database, and there’s an easy way to go after them. Pace Morby has built a portfolio of 2132 doors, worth $450 million without using his own money or borrowing a single cent. Today he shares why every agent should be using this strategy and how it works. 

Change your identity 
Pace worked as a contractor for many years, and one day a real estate investor he was working with said, “you’re not in real estate, you’re a slave to my business - you’re a simple Google search away from being replaced.” As agents, we are service providers to the people who own the real estate. Just because you helped someone else facilitate a sale in real estate, doesn’t mean you’re an investor. 

Investing and Taxes 

The IRS wants people to solve affordable housing for the country, and they’ll incentivize investors to create more housing and offset their income so they don’t have to pay taxes. If you make millions of dollars in cash flow, why wouldn’t you want to use your own money? If someone can lend me their own money at 10%, it’s a lot better. 

A Huge Opportunity 

50% of investments bought in 2022 were back on the market in 2023, because people think owning real estate is easy and when they discover that it’s not, they want to get rid of the home. 

How to explain seller financing to a seller  
Most sellers think their home is worth more than everyone is telling them. When you use creative financing, you actually want the sellers who want too much money because you can offer them payments. Let’s say you’re trying to sell a car for $10k, and you don’t get any bites until you offer payments. 

There’s More to Real Estate Than Listings

Real estate agents are only focused on the listing, that’s like playing 18 holes of golf with a putter. You should have more than one golf club.  Low inventory isn’t the problem, low affordability is, and creative financing is how you solve it. In this scenario, everyone wins - buyer, seller, agent and investor. Where can you find creative finance deals - through expireds. You can approach them and say, “I know buyers who are open to paying the price if you give them terms.”
 
Go to Propstream and filter for homes purchased between 2019 and 2022, VA or FHA loans, homes bought with almost no money down, sellers with low equity and homes on the market for over 100 days. 

Guest Info

Pace Morby is the host of A&E’s most popular TV show ‘Triple Digit Flip’ and one of the most creative real estate investors on the planet. Using dozens of non-traditional strategies called Creative Finance, Pace has acquired 1,000’s of doors nationwide and built a portfolio totaling over $450 million in assets. Each week, Pace teaches tens of thousands of students in his online communities which is becoming the #1 source for anyone looking to get started in real estate utilizing Subject To, Seller Finance and the Gator Method!

Go to https://pacemorby.com/ for more information and follow @pacemorby on Instagram. 

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In a good market, the gap between great agents and average agents is virtually non-existent - it’s anyone’s game. When the market turns, the gap between the good and the great becomes so wide, it’s the difference between earning money and leaving the business entirely. Doubling your business in a down market is possible, but it’s not by chance. 

You and your team have to be so different that sellers believe you’re the only way they can get top dollar for their home. 

That comes down to marketing - the best marketers won’t just outlast the market, they’ll win outright. The market assumes your ability based on your visibility - so we have to win the conversation before we even get into the room with the seller. 

The wealthy are paid for their expertise, the lowest paid are compensated for their time. How do we position ourselves as experts? How do we use marketing to craft the unique home selling offer that makes domination automatic? 

Curtis Johnson shares the key strategy to winning in this market. 

Guest Info

Curtis runs a highly successful real estate team at The Curtis Johnson Team Powered By eXp Realty having sold nearly 5,000 residential homes in Arizona and a BILLION Dollars in Volume. The Wall Street Journal ranked his Team as one of the Top 50 out of 1.2 million REALTORS in America.

He is one of the most connected and sought after real estate minds in the business. He and his team were singled out as a finalist in Inman's Most Innovative Real Estate Teams in 2018.

His extensive knowledge of the real estate market makes him an in demand speaker and real estate expert. He constantly analyzes current market conditions and trends to stay one step ahead of others in the field. Curtis holds several advanced professional designations including GRI, ABR and CRS.

Curtis has been featured nationally on the cover of REALTOR Magazine, prominently in CNN Money Magazine as well as interviewed locally on virtually every TV station and newspaper. Curtis and his selling system have been featured on the 60 Minutes equivalent in several countries internationally. 

Follow @curtisjohnsonrealestate on Instagram. 

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