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Welcome to the Run-Run-Live 4.0 Podcast! - This podcast celebrates the transformative power of endurance sports.
This is the next generation follow up to the RunRunLive 2.0 Podcast.
This show is a thoughtful, interview-based format that explores the connection between running, and endurance sports in general and your physical and mental health.
All episodes, show note, links and previous show iterations can be found at www.runrunlive.com

RunRunLive 4.0 - Running Podcast Chris Russell

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Welcome to the Run-Run-Live 4.0 Podcast! - This podcast celebrates the transformative power of endurance sports.
This is the next generation follow up to the RunRunLive 2.0 Podcast.
This show is a thoughtful, interview-based format that explores the connection between running, and endurance sports in general and your physical and mental health.
All episodes, show note, links and previous show iterations can be found at www.runrunlive.com

    Episode 4-428 – Matt Fitzgerald – Training with the Pro’s

    Episode 4-428 – Matt Fitzgerald – Training with the Pro’s

    The RunRunLive 4.0 Podcast Episode 4-428 – Matt Fitzgerald – Training with the Pro’s  (Audio: link) audio:http://www.RunRunLive.com/PodcastEpisodes/epi4428.mp3] Link MarathonBQ – How to Qualify for the Boston Marathon in 14 Weeks - Hello and welcome to episode 4-428 of the RunRunLive Podcast.   So here we are in the apocalypse.  How’s everyone doing?  These are interesting times.  That’s a trick of modern English.  Whenever we don’t want to say ‘bad’ we say ‘interesting’ like somehow we are just observers in the soup? Took me until today to get this show out.  Not because I don’t have time.  Not because I don’t have ideas and content. Not because I have technical issues.  No, just lacked basic motivation over the last couple days.  Been watching low quality TV, eating poorly, playing some my online zombie game…you know, super adult and productive! It’s ok to take a day or two off but don’t let these doldrums turn into patterns or new habits.  Now is a good time to start new habits.  An excellent way to kick out of a malaise is to do a fixed program – like a 10-day meditation challenge or a 20-day plank challenge.  Or a daily journaling challenge. I’ve kicked off a couple new projects this week.  First is I’m reading the Princess Bride into audio for 20-30 minutes every day and posting it on my web site.  I figured if I could read to my kids when they were young, I can read to everyone’s kids.  You can find the current nine reading sessions on my website under Story Time.  I also got asked by some folks to participate in a group story telling event for the Chicago Area Running Association.  That’ll be a live Zoom meeting Wednesday night of this week. My work is super busy.  My training stepped back to just some easy runs and one crazy HIT workout this week. These HIT – High Intensity Training workouts are something you can do from your house.  You can look them up online or just make them up.  The basic form is a short sprint followed by some high-intensity exercises.  For example; go out your front door and sprint 100M out and back, then do 10 fast pushups, 10 fast crunches, 5 pullups then sprint again, 3 more exercises, sprint – you will be gasping like a fish out of water.  Definitely a change in pace for me who’s been doing mostly easy trail runs.  The entire world is marching through my woods these days as well.  I know they’re bored, but I feel a bit violated.  Buddy and I cut those trails 20 years ago.  Now I’m shoulder to shoulder with the hoi polloi in my happy place.  I have to go out at dawn if I want some peace.  Today we have a great interview with old friend and running journalist Matt Fitzgerald who is publishing a new book this month called Running the Dream where he executes all of our adult fantasies and lives and trains as a professional with a professional team for a race.  It’s a great read and gets my thumbs up. In section I’ll give you a the results of a Q&A I did on Facebook which may or may not be useful.  And is section two a follow-up apocalypse story from the same universe I created last episode.  Having fun with this.  Maybe this is the book I was looking for?  … Had a nice outing with Ollie on Friday night.  Coach gave me a day off on Saturday and I was super sore from that HIT workout on Thursday so I figured I could go out late.  The day got away from me from the start.  The dog woke up early, like 5:30 and after I let him out to pee, I laid down on the couch.  Ollie climbed up on the back of the couch and fell asleep sort of sitting on me.  Next thing I know it’s 7:30. Missed my 7:00 AM call.  Took Ollie for a walk and went to work on the back to back calls and deadlines feeling unmotivated.  But, I dropped that 2-hour run on my calendar for 6:30 PM.  I didn’t even come close to completing

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    Episode 4-427 – Shoshana and Adam – Veggies Saved my Life!

    Episode 4-427 – Shoshana and Adam – Veggies Saved my Life!

    The RunRunLive 4.0 Podcast Episode 4-427 – Shoshana and Adam – Veggies Saved my Life!  (Audio: link) audio:http://www.RunRunLive.com/PodcastEpisodes/epi4427.mp3] Link MarathonBQ – How to Qualify for the Boston Marathon in 14 Weeks - Hello and welcome to episode 4-427 of the RunRunLive Podcast.   Here we are at the center of a pandemic!  Most days I’d be sitting in my home office writing, but with the apocalypse in full swing I figure my time would be better spent … umm… sitting in my home office writing? I suppose I should make an effort to paint the context for you because we may need to look back on this episode, listen and think.     So, my future listeners, it is the day before the ides of March 2020.  We are in the grips of the corona virus.  This week they cancelled all major sports seasons, and postponed the Boston Marathon, for the first time in 124 years, until the fall.   Americans are all working from home as most businesses have closed.  There has been a run on toilet paper and bottled water for some reason.   Does it affect me?  I suppose we’ll see.  I started working for a big company a couple months ago and that is looking like a fairly prescient move.  I was down in Dallas two weeks ago after we last spoke.  I was at a conference in Atlanta this week.  I was supposed to be out in Grand Rapids at a client next week but that got canceled.  I can work virtually, so it’s not a game ender.  After we last spoke, I entered into the hard part of my training for Boston.  This week was going to be a monster, with a big miles and three killer workouts.  But, after they rescheduled the marathon I’m backing off and switching back to base-building.  Today we speak with Adam and Shoshana Chaim about how a vegan diet saved Adam’s life.  I know we’ve covered this topic before, but I had a request to specifically explore how to manage a vegan diet while competing at a high level.  In section one I’m going to talk about sleep and the impact of not getting enough or getting too much. In section two, just because it felt right, I wrote an apocalypse story for you.  I love the apocalypse genre.  I don’t know why. It seems like the ultimate escapism, I guess. Before my racing plans got changed I woke up to a fairly sever tempo workout in Atlanta Tuesday morning.   Again, with Boston 4 weeks away (at the time) this was the final push.  Coach gave me an 8 X 7 tempo work out.  So, warm up, run 7 minutes hard, 2 minute recover, repeat 8 times.  Ironically at my current pace and fitness that’s almost perfectly a mile repeat. I knew I was going to be in Atlanta.  Unless you find a track, it is hard to find a good place to do mile repeats in Atlanta.  I was staying north of the city in Roswell because all the hotels were sold out down in the city where the conference was.    I am fairly familiar with this workout, and have run it in Atlanta before and I have a strategy.   While the roads around Atlanta are a nightmare for running on, the parking lots are good, especially early in the morning.  I zoomed in on Google maps around the hotel and found some beautiful giant parking lots less than a mile away.  It turns out, without knowing this, I had positioned myself across the street from the new Atlanta Braves stadium.  I rolled out of bed early and ran over to where I knew the parking lot was.  It was raining but a warm 50ish degrees. The sun wasn’t up.  I had to cross the highway but this was ok because around the stadium the sidewalks and walkways are designed for stadium traffic and are 15 foot wide.  On the Google maps the parking lot looked flat, but in reality it was a bit of a saddle shape.  If I stuck to the outside it was about a 1/4 mile on each side with the center being the high spot in the saddle and maybe 50 feet of drop to the edges.  I hit the old

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    Episode 4-426 – Steve Pero and the Rim to Rim to Rim

    Episode 4-426 – Steve Pero and the Rim to Rim to Rim

    The RunRunLive 4.0 Podcast Episode 4-426 – Steve Pero and the Rim to Rim to Rim  (Audio: link) audio:http://www.RunRunLive.com/PodcastEpisodes/epi4426.mp3] Link MarathonBQ – How to Qualify for the Boston Marathon in 14 Weeks - Hello and welcome to episode 4-426 of the RunRunLive Podcast.   Here we are celebrating a leap year February.  That means you and I get an extra day to do the things we love!  Good stuff, right? Today we have a good show for you.  I corralled one of my local ultra-running friends Steve to give me some coaching on running the Rim-to-Rim in the Grand Canyon.   Coincidently, if you want some more around the history of running the Grand Canyon, you can check out a series that Davey Crockett did on the and the Rim to Rim runners of the last 100 years.  I went to the Grand Canyon for the first time int 2015 and I was so impressed that I returned in 2016 and ran down to Phantom Ranch and back with my daughter.  I’m planning on going back in September of this year and doing a 2-day Rim-to-Rim-to-Rim.  Meaning, we are going to run south to north on day one, stay over on the north side then come back on day 2.  If that sounds like fun to you, you are more than welcome to join.  You’ll have to manage your own logistics.  Effort-wise it’s the equivalent of a hilly 50K I’d say, unless the weather goes sideways.  In section one we will try to answer the question of at what age do the wheels fall off your athletic pursuits?  In section two we’ll talk about sticks.  On the topic of aging there are a number of people trying to figure out why we can’t all live to 150 or even 200 years old.  Of course there have probably always been these people, but the modern ones are trying to leverage science.  I was listening to one of these and it turns out they are very big on cold therapy, i.e. plunging yourself into cold water as a way to shock your body into a positive stress response.  Meaning, these things that stress us shake our genomes out of their comfortable slumber and get them awake and cracking, pushing out good youthful stuff that makes us stronger.  And you laughed at me with my ice baths.  Since we last talked I have transitioned into some more intense, race specific training for Boston.  Last weekend coach started me on some hill repeats.   I was pretty proud of myself getting up Friday morning with the sunrise and 10 degrees and knocking them out!  The sun is coming up early enough now to run in the morning.  This is another one of those old-guy tricks.  Instead of doing speedwork on the track you do tempo on the hill.  It has the same positive effect on your footspeed, turnover, form and strength without as much pounding.  Last Sunday I did a 2:30 with surges and a fast finish.  Tomorrow I’ll do 2:45. This will get me close to 30k.   Well into the mid 40’s of miles per week.  I still get out with Ollie the Collie in the woods for some of my mid-week runs.  He is still a maniac.  He has added to his annoying habit of lying in wait on the trail and pouncing on me.  He likes to chose good ground to do this from.  Like when I’m struggling up a muddy knoll or trying to navigate a slippery rock bridge over a stream. He’ll lie in a crouch and spring at me.  If I’m not paying attention I may receive essentially a 45 pound punch to the family jewels.  His new trick is right after this assault he’ll look around for the nearest stick to grab and run with it, growling.  The challenge with this is sometimes he grabs small sticks and sometimes he grabs 6-foot long branches. He then runs in and around me with his payload, joyously growling and swinging his bit of tree.  Try as I may, inevitable he trips me and I get familiar with the frozen or muddy ground.  On time last week he literally stuck a branch between my legs as I was running, like when the Ital

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    Episode 4-425 – John and Tom Chat about Cancer

    Episode 4-425 – John and Tom Chat about Cancer

    The RunRunLive 4.0 Podcast Episode 4-425 – John and Tom Chat about Cancer  (Audio: link) audio:http://www.RunRunLive.com/PodcastEpisodes/epi4425.mp3] Link MarathonBQ – How to Qualify for the Boston Marathon in 14 Weeks - Hello and welcome to episode 4-425 of the RunRunLive Podcast.    Well, here we are again, it’s a beautiful, sunny, single-digit, February morning and I’m talking to you! Ollie the collie is being a pain in the butt.  I was on a trip all week so he didn’t get his runs in and he’s very stressed out.  He’s being the toddler-terror today.  He’s already chewed on a couple socks and the channel changer and is harassing me with a toy as I try to write.  That’s dog life.  Today, I have a very special and personal conversation with John and Tom, who are both prostate cancer experienced and members of our running circle.  Both of them are friends of mine and I’m honored that they were kind enough to share their stories.  In section one I’ll talk about the non-linearity of the mileage curve.  In section two I’ll give you a write up of a book I read on the plane this week that I really liked called “Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends on it.”  All links, including the one where you donate to my prostate cancer campaign for Boston (wink wink nudge nudge) are in the show notes, which, by the way, you should be able to access on your phone or other listening device, as part of the episode meta-data.  About Zero ZERO — The End of Prostate Cancer is the leading national nonprofit with the mission to end prostate cancer. ZERO advances research, improves the lives of men and families, and inspires action. Link to my ZERO page: (for Donations) Busy couple of weeks.  My training has been going well.  I knocked out a nice 13.8 mile step up run last week and I’m starting to transition into more long tempo as we are getting closer to Patriots Day.  It’s been relatively mild this winter but getting a wee bit colder.  My long run last week started at 14 degrees.  I forgot my thick gloves and was worried I might have to knock on someone’s door to warm up during that first hour.  It used to be I’d just run harder to warm up but that’s not a great strategy for me anymore in a multi-hour run.  My bottle froze and my headphones failed.  But, hey, it was sunny and windless, so it wasn’t too bad and I was able to do some thinking and focus on my run.  There is no good or bad run there is only the ‘is’.  I swung by and picked up a couple of my running club buddies for the second loop who I hadn’t seen for a while and had a good catch up.  Was able to close out the last 30 minutes at close to race pace.  All in all a solid outing.  Monday morning I was off to Vegas.  I always forget that Vegas is in the Western time zone.  It feels like it should be in Mountain time.  That puts it 3 hours ahead of me, which helps for those morning workouts because you’re up anyhow. I knocked out a 30-minute time trial on the treadmill Monday morning.  I showed up at the gym in the casino at 5:00AM when it opened, and it was already ¾ full.  There was a line for the equipment when I stepped off an hour later.  All those East Coasters.  I got a kick out of it though.  I just imagine them thinking “Who’s this old guy knocking out 7-minute miles at 5 AM?”  I’ve turned the corner a bit on worrying about being slower and I’m quite grateful to be getting at it still at all and to be able to do anything a bit quicker makes me happy.  I got out on the strip during the last day before I headed to the airport.  Always fun to get out and take a look around.  It was mid-60’ss and sunny.  Good to see the sun. I always like running up and down the strip.  You can do the whole thing in 6 miles.  You have to run up and down the pedestrian bridges. It’s not optimized fo

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    Episode 4-424 – Alix Shutello – The Intersection of Publishing and Endurance

    Episode 4-424 – Alix Shutello – The Intersection of Publishing and Endurance

    The RunRunLive 4.0 Podcast Episode 4-424 – Alix Shutello – The Intersection of Publishing and Endurance (Audio: link) audio:http://www.RunRunLive.com/PodcastEpisodes/epi4424.mp3] Link MarathonBQ – How to Qualify for the Boston Marathon in 14 Weeks - Hello and welcome to episode 4-424 of the RunRunLive Podcast.    Some off you may be wondering what happened to me last week! Or not.  I was waylaid by an aggressive intersection of life and technology that prevented me from putting a show out.  It was a cascading series of events that you get sometimes in this squiggly path we are all on.  First I had an interview set up with Jamie Bearse who heads up the ZERO for prostate cancer foundation that I’ve decide to run Boston for this year.  Oh, right, I got a waiver number from my club for Boston and I’m running again.  Anyhow, Jamie got the flu, not the coronavirus, this was before that reared it’s multifarious ugly heads and we had to reschedule.  I, not willing to give up, called our friend John Vaughn who is a Prostate cancer survivor and coerced him into recording a last-minute call on the same subject.  Probably the finest and most compelling interview ever done by two mere mortals… But, something got twiddled sideways in the great bit-locker in the sky and there was no file of the recording to download.  After a week of tet-a-tete with the support guys there was no file.  Meanwhile I was in Phoenix for 5 straight days for a kickoff with my new job.  I did, over-optimistically bring my recording stuff, but, as these things go, was not afforded the chance to create some sort of non-interview filler episode.  C’est la Vie. Such is life.  But, even as you mourn the apparent reality that a rigorous and devoted podcaster like myself can’t keep a schedule, all hope is not lost!  I rounded up a great talk with Alix for you for today’s show.  I met Alix on LinkedIn, saw that she runs an endurance sports magazine and had to get her on.  I love to understand the intersection of business and endurance.  I have two asks today.  First is that you send me suggestions on people you’d like me to interview.  I don’t have a producer so I have to hunt them down on my own and after 12 years of doing this I’ve talked to a lot of people! Second ask is to contribute to my Prostate cancer campaign.  I’ll put the links in the show notes.  My friends are dying from this.  It’s important to me.  In the first section I’ll talk about long run paces, again.  In section two I’ll give you my brief understanding of the current OKR wave in organizations.  How’s my training going?  Actually quite well.  Since I’m planning not to hammer Boston this year my coach has me running basic base building runs so far.  For example this week I have had 4 easy 1:20 runs.  These are not race specific so I can do them in the woods with Ollie and it makes us both quite happy.  I got every one of my workouts in while in Phoenix.  Proud of that.  I’m heading to Vegas next week and look forward to doing some early morning exploring there as well. I received multiple ‘feedbacks’ that my grizzly bear audio was just a little too real last episode.  People were startled and looked around on their runs to make sure they weren’t about to be eaten!  Sorry.  Trying to be creative.  Yah know… 12 years and all… got to keep it from becoming too rote. No, I did not suffer from any grisly grizzly attacks but that was actual audio of a grizzly eating a dead caribou in Yellowstone.  There is a grisly back story here.  And it’s not that someone found a way to mic up a dead caribou.  If you search for grizzly audio there’s a sort of viral audio of this poor dude and his girlfriend being attacked and eaten by grizzlies in the early 2000’s in Yellowstone.  I did not watch or listen to it because I do

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    Episode 4-423 – Great Stories with Anne Audain

    Episode 4-423 – Great Stories with Anne Audain

    The RunRunLive 4.0 Podcast Episode 4-423 – Great Stories with Anne Audain - The first female professional runner (Audio: link) audio:http://www.RunRunLive.com/PodcastEpisodes/epi4423.mp3] Link MarathonBQ – How to Qualify for the Boston Marathon in 14 Weeks - Hello and welcome to episode 4-423 of the RunRunLive Podcast.    For those of you who got a new device for podcast listening over the holidays and are exploring new content, welcome to our tribe.  Or, maybe, you’re embarking on a new year wellness campaign and somehow found it to us.  Welcome.  To my old friends welcome to the new year.  There are 12 years worth of episodes on our website, with the corresponding blog posts, runrunlive.com.  The site is searchable. There is an index page that lists all the episodes in one place.  Every year we have a gathering in northern Idaho at the summer solstice at camp Whatafookie if you’d like to join us.  We get naked, paint ourselves blue, take peyote and dance a shamanistic jig to the Earth Goddess. But, that’s another story.  Today I’ve got a great interview with Anne Audain.  She’s a native New Zealander who lives it the US now.  She connected to me on FaceBook and when I started reading her bio I was a bit ashamed to have never met her before.  She competed in the 70’s and 80’s at a very high level as part of that great diaspora of New Zealand runners.  She has a great story.  A real hero’s journey.  You are going to love the stories. It’s a great interview.  If you know someone I should interview let me know.  The rule is - something interesting.  Something you’re curious about.  Something you want to learn more about.  Famous is not a requirement.  I tend to shy away from famous because they are jaded with interviews and give you the pre-recorded schtick.   I I’ve always liked the person-in-the-trenches interviews because they are relatable and applicable to our tribe.  In section one I’m going to talk about training your dog to run with you – because I have a dog I am currently training and I had multiple people ask me about this.  In section two we are going to do some tracking in the New England snow.  Here we are with the first podcast of 2020.  A new year.  A new decade.  You can thank the Romans for this fascination with increments of 10.  It’s not hard to see how they came up with that system based on counting on your fingers.  But, before the Greeks and Romans counted on their fingers there were other, earlier cultures that counted on their fingers and the knuckles of their fingers to come up with a 12 based system.  That still lingers in our world as dozens and grosses.  I’ve started training again.  I don’t have anything specific on the calendar yet.  But it feels good to start getting stronger again after taking a break for the holiday season. I put on about 10 pounds but I’m not worried about it.  It synchs well with the periodicity of my training cycles.  Now, in the beginning of the cycle we focus on strength and aerobic fitness.  There’s no pace work or specific, goal based workouts – so I can carry a couple extra pounds. As long as I feel healthy and eat clean it’s all good and one less thing to stress about.  I find that the weight will take care of itself as the training intensifies closer to the goal event and it’s counter productive to stress on that too early in a cycle.  And what are my events and plans?  We’ll just have to save that for the outro.  But, it’s a new year.  A time of rebirth.  I usually don’t like to go to deep into my personal business, but this story fits well with the new year theme.  I start a new job next week. I’m excited and apprehensive.  Looking forward to it.  It’s a bit of a change for me.  It’s a bigger company as opposed to the startups I’ve been working with for the

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Love this show!

Every week or so Chris Russell puts out a podcast that is fun, energising and inspirational. I always enjoy the various persons whom he finds to interview and I relish the stories that they share. If you are looking for a "serious" running podcast - then you may want to look somewhere else. But if you're looking for a podcast that will keep you motivated, your legs turning over and your brain thinking - then this is the podcast for you!

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