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The RIPE Labs Podcast delves into the ideas that matter to the people who operate the Internet. In each episode, we'll be talking to experts from all corners of the Internet community about how the work they do contributes to the good of the Internet and the challenges they face in making sure it keeps running.
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From Academia to Internet: Pioneers of EARN, NSFNET and RIPE
In this episode of the RIPE Labs podcast, three Internet pioneers talk about how they helped grow the Internet out of its early infancy, back when its purpose - and much of the excitement around its development - lay in the promise of connecting researchers from around the world.
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Show notes:00:03:22 - Daniel Karrenberg about the EUnet, the first pan-European Internet Service Provider (ISP)
00:11:18 - Dennis Jennings about his first encounter with networking and the birth EARN
00:17:40 - Daniele Bovio on the first international routing tables received via EARN and BITNET
00:22:48 - Daniel Karrenberg on Email gateways, email being the one application that worked across all networks
00:27:06 - The first transatlantic interconnection Daniel operated
00:29:18 - Dennis shares how he built NSFNET
00:32:05 - Dennis on why he decided to use TCP/IP protocol on NSFNET
00:35:39 - Daniel about the birth of RIPE and the need to coordinate IP addresses
00:41:02 - Dennis on designing the national general-purpose network of networks beyond supercomputers and its business model
00:48:29 - Daniele on EBONE, a pan-European Internet backbone
00:56:48 - Daniele on his work at America Online (AOL) and leasing transatlantic capacity
01:12:09 - EARN Panel at SEE 12
01:12:26 - the RIPE Community today
01:14:00 - Dennis Jennings shares top 3 important moments in the Internet history that he has personally overseen
01:21:00 - Daniele Bovio shares top 3 important moments in the Internet history that he has personally overseen
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Internet Privacy and the Cost of Losing Control
Internet users, the companies who sell us our devices, and governments are all caught up in the struggle to protect our privacy. In this episode, Bert Hubert explains how outsourcing and other market forces determine the flow of control over online data and why we need to understand the consequences.
Show notes:
01:00 - PowerDNS
01:04 - I highly recommend Bert’s excellent blog berthub.eu!!
02:42 - Bert on joining TIB (oversight board for the Dutch intelligence and security services)
02:58 - Bert on leaving TIB
03:30 - Reverse Engineering the source code of the BioNTech/Pfizer SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine
03:40 - George Orwell’s Why I Write
05:31 - RIPE NCC’s response to the NIS2 directive
10:00 - Bert talking about End to End Encryption for the European Internet Forum at the European Parliament
14:27 - Trinity college research on scale of data sharing from Android devices
32:31 - More on the Cyber Resilience Act (CRA) on RIPE Labs here and here
34:00 - Incidentally, Bert was co-author of RFC 5452
34:50 - Bert and Corrine Cath on SIDN’s decision to outsource some of its services to AWS (in Dutch)
41:10 - Read about recent developments with the US Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act
48:00 - Bert on climate change (again, highly recommended!)
54:30 - Business for geeks at NLNOG
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Starlink and the Future of Low-Orbit Internet
Starlink's megaconstellations deliver broadband Internet to customers around the globe. But while the tech promises to democratise Internet access, it's not always clear how existing protocols and regulations apply beyond the clouds. In this episode, Geoff Huston talks about the future of low-orbit Internet.
Show notes:
02:20 - APNIC Labs Starlink measurements and Geoff’s podcast on LEOs and TCP
08:50 - Geostationary orbit
09:48 - Project Iridium
14:40 - Starlink
29:50 - See more from Geoff on measuring Starlink performance from his talk at RIPE 87
35:45 - Research on Starlink using RIPE Atlas
44:30 - Atmospheric nuclear testing in the 60s
45:00 - NORAD Database of satellites
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Something's Wrong on the Internet
The Internet is hardly foolproof in its design, and whether by accident or on purpose, the people who use and operate it sometimes don't do things they should or do do things they shouldn't. Qasim Lone talks about strange goings on he's investigated and how RIPE Atlas can help researchers in the field.
01:00 - RIPE Atlas
01:53 - SLAC
02:59 - Read Qasim on Why SAV is Still a Problem
04:37 - Other research from Qasim and colleagues on SAV
06:02 - RFCs 2827 and 3704 describe SAV implementation
06:35 - IPv4 lease time article
07:48 - The DNS Root Manipulation article
09:10 - Manu Bretelle's email to DNS-operations mailing list
18:17 - Qasim on 240/4
23:15 - RFC 3330 describes specialised IPv4 address blocks assigned by IANA
29:00 - Listen to our episode on bias in Internet measurements
36:30 - SEE 12 takes place in Athens this April
37:45 - ...and CAPIF 3 is coming up this September!
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Ready or Not - Rethinking Cybersecurity for a Post-Quantum World
Quantum technologies promise all kinds of fascinating possibilities, but they also come with risks. In this episode of the RIPE Labs podcast, André Grilo, founder and CEO of QuantumNova, talks about why we need to start investing in post-quantum cryptography to protect ourselves against post-quantum threats.
01:17 - QuantumNova
05:08 - Shor’s algorithm
11:07 - Post-quantum cryptography
14:02 - NIST selected 4 post-quantum security algorithms
16:00 - EU’s programme to support companies to transition to post-quantum
23:26 - Quantum repeaters to overcome overcome entanglement distribution over long distances
25:10 - Quantum Internet Hackathon
29:28 - AI and Quantum
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The Historical Record of the Internet
Understanding outages and shutdowns and how the Internet as a whole came to be vulnerable to, and also resilient against, these kinds of events requires more than a snapshot of the current state affairs. In this episode, Jim Cowie talks about how historical measurement data can help us acquire a better understanding of the Internet.
01:40 - There's a nice, short introduction to Jim and his background right here.
03:11 - RIPE RIS
04:50 - Jim on the 2011 outage in Egypt
07:05 - Jim has since confirmed that the Renesys team was indeed using RIS BGP data since September 2001, though Routeviews remains another invaluable source of BGP data.
12:35 - Jim's presentation at CAPIF1
13:42 - Resilience of the Internet in Ukraine on RIPE Labs
15:30 - Jim on the Rogers Outage over on the Pulse blog
21:43 - Doug Madory on Cuba and the Geopolitics of Submarine Cables
31:30 - GEODE on the RIPE Labs podcast
33:30 - RIPE Atlas
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