What I’ve learned, and what comes next‪.‬ The Gray Area with Sean Illing

As strange as it is to write, this is my last podcast here at Vox.

In January, I'll be starting at the New York Times as a columnist on the opinion page, doing a reported column on policy and launching an interview podcast. Meanwhile, Vox will be building something new and better atop this show's DNA in this feed.

In this episode, I wanted to reflect on the almost five years I’ve spent doing this show. This project has changed my work, and my life, in unexpected ways. So here are the four lessons this show has taught me and, of course, the three books that have influenced me, and that I'd recommend to the audience. 

Thank you for everything, and you can reach me at ezrakleinshow@gmail.com. See you on the other side. 

Book recommendations:
Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows by Melanie Joy
The Inheritance Trilogy by N.K. Jemisin
Working by Studs Terkel

Credits:
Producer/Audio engineer - Jeff Geld
Researcher - Roge Karma

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