Forrest Smith | Heal Chronic Pain Without Drugs: Red Light Photobiomodulation Therapy + How To Live A Pain Free Life (Kineon)

Wellness + Wisdom | Episode 585

Is laser therapy the solution to chronic pain?

Forrest Smith, CEO and Co-Founder of Kineon Labs, joins Josh Trent on the Wellness + Wisdom podcast, episode 585, to share how photobiomodulation can revolutionize chronic pain healing, why chronic pain is a sign of inflammation, and how laser and red light therapy work for healing joint pain and damaged tissue.

"If you've got a fire in your kitchen and the house is burning down, you have inflammation and pain in your joints. The pain is the signal, the sound coming from that fire alarm. The fire in the kitchen is the inflammation. And what we see people doing with with opiates and anti-inflammatory drugs, is taking the batteries out of the fire alarm so that they can't hear this anymore but the fire's still going." - Forrest Smith

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In This Episode, Forrest Smith Uncovers: [01:30] LED + Laser Light Technology for Chronic Pain

• Forrest Smith
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• Why we should listen to our pain instead of numbing it with drugs.
• The reason why older people don't trust new technology.
• How the healthcare system should focus on prevention.
• Dementia is caused by inflammation.

[10:40] How to Measure Physical Pain

• Lauren Colletti
• The tests you can take to optimize your health.
• WAVi Brain Scan
• Why standard pain measurement is subjective.
• Electromagnetic scans are currently the most efficient tool to measure pain.
• The technology Kineon has developed and why they believe silicon photomultiplier is the future.

[18:30] Chronic Pain = Chronic Inflammation

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• How lack of movement is correlated to depression and chronic anxiety.
• Why pain is just a signal of chronic inflammation.
• How traumatic tissue damage causes local chronic inflammation.
• What the shear strength test measures.

[25:45] The Science of Photobiomodulation

• Why people shouldn't correlate their pain with their age.
• The difference between getting sunlight and photobiomodulation.
• How most red light therapy devices are not efficient in treating joint pain.
• The relation between blood vessels and inflammation.
• Why very high and very low oxidative stress is not good for you.

[33:45] The Benefits of Laser Therapy

• The difference between chronic and acute inflammation.
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• Why the dosage of photobiomodulation devices is important.
• The purpose of photobiomodulation panels.
• How Kineon helps you remodel soft tissue and increase your cell stems.

[41:50] How Kineon Changes Lives

• How they monitor tissue healing with Kineon.
• The short-term and long-term effects of using the device.
• Exercise brings oxidative stress to your body in a healthy amount.
• Why Forrest loves hearing the stories of people whose life was changed using Kineon.
• How they stay true to their mission.

[51:00] Are You Self-Sabotaging Your Wellness Journey?

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• How we unconsciously sabotage ourselves.
• Why medical professionals love using Kineon.
• How healing yourself can help heal the world.
• How chronic pain takes away your power.

[01:00:30] How to Use Kineon for Best Results

• Solving problems takes energy.
• Dr. Tim Brown
• How Kineon helps heal edema.
• Why remodeling soft tissue takes time.
• How often you should use Kineon to achieve results.
• Laser therapy increases collagen production and helps heal scars.

[01:09:15] Healing Scar Tissue with Laser Therapy

• How Kineon can heal your old tissue damage.
• Why the blood flow in old scars is lower.
• You can measure blood flow using your phone and Kineon.
• Unpacking if technology can potentially heal on a level we never even imagined.
• Many behavioral pathologies are based on metabolic health.

[01:17:05] Laser Technology Evolution for Health + Wellness

• How remote photobiomodulation works.
• The new Kineon device using Metabolomics that will be released soon.
• Why laser technology is getting cheaper.
• The reason why Forrest sees laser therapy as an alternative to pharmaceuticals.

[01:22:05] The Current Situation in China

• Why Josh believes China is a focal point for demonic energy in the world.
• Forrest's experience living in China for 20 years.
• Why he enjoys living in Mexico now.
• What has been happening in China since the pandemic.
• How ghost cities were created in China.

[01:35:00] Creating a Change in The World

• Why Forrest is optimistic about the future of technology.
• How the overload of information makes it more difficult to filter it.
• Turning optimism into empowerment and using information to change the world.
• Why Kineon provides a money-back guarantee and customer support.

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