More (And Less!) Than Meets the Eye Matt Waters & Ben Phillips

On the day of their interview with James Roberts, Matt discovered he'd been sitting on a goldmine of juicy secrets concerning original plans for Lost Light. With James' blessing, we're breaking them down now.
From minor tidbits to major revelations, we pull back the curtain a little on what might have been had Lost Light not been cut short. Plus some of our own speculation of course.
If this whets your appetite, make sure to pick up the final volumes of James' notebooks in 2024, which will go into even greater detail.
And that's it! Podcast over. Thank you for joining us for our Transformers journey. If you'd like to keep listening to our podcasts hijinks, make sure to subscribe to Untitled BoJack Horseman Project, available everywhere you get podcasts NOW.
Outro Music: 'This Is Why We Fight' (The Decemberists Cover) - Saskia Parks

After dissecting his books for 14 weeks, Ben & Matt had the privilege of sitting down with James Roberts to discuss all things More Than Meets The Eye/Lost Light.
From the origins of his Transformers fandom (and how it differs from Ben & Matt's!), to his influences when building the cast, to incredibly specific questions about Mnemosurgery and Empurata, we tried to cover as much ground as possible in an hour. Don't worry, we made sure to ask 'Why do you hate Beast Wars, James?!?'

Please consider checking out some of our other work (Ben & Matt's Marvellous Journey and There Will Be Movies), available everywhere you get your podcasts, and don't miss out on your chance to order Volumes 3 and 4 of James' notebooks for an even deeper look behind the curtain on these comics by checking his social media.

Outro Music: 'This Is Why We Fight' (The Decemberists Cover) - Saskia Parks

Just because the crew of the Lost Light appear to be dead, doesn't mean this is the end! Death? Sparkeaters? Infinites? An Evil Alliance of Past Foes? A Planet-Sized Transformer? Unknowable Ancient Beings Trying to Eat the Universe? Pfft. How about a challenge next time?!?
It's also NOT the end of this podcast, as next week we will be joined by James Roberts himself to answer some of our burning questions about his run on the books.

At last the movie side of our journey has come to an end as Matt finally watches Rise of the Beasts.
We discuss the awkward fit of the Maximals into what is clearly a soft Transformers reboot... or should that be the awkward fit of the Transformers into what is clearly a Beast Wars movie? Plus mileage on Pete Davidson, some sad Peter Cullen truths, the return of blah human protagonists, and the future of a Hasbro Cinematic Universe.
Outro Music: This is Why We Fight (The Decemberists Cover) - Saskia Parks

Homework
Next Week: Lost Light Issues 13-25 (Vol. 3 & 4)

New Name! New Issue 1! Same old lovable crew!
We discuss why Rodimus is purple now, whacky adventures in a parallel universe, IDW's controversial history with gender in Transformers, the nature of grief, and a much-lauded mutiny.
Outro music: ‘This Is Why We Fight’ (The Decemberists Cover) – Saskia Parks

Homework
Next Week: Transformers: Rise of the Beasts
Two Weeks: Lost Light Issues 13-25

For ten weeks we have suffered, but at long last it's time for an Actually Good movie! We could tell you about our discussion of Travis Knight's rap career, the much-lauded opening, the best human character in the series, our mildly heated 80s nostalgia debate and how much they get out of no-name villains...
But really, The Thing Is... He's Just A Lil Guy.
Outro Music: 'This Is Why We Fight' (The Decemberists Cover) - Saskia Parks

Homework
Next Week: Lost Light Issues 1-12 (Vol. 1 & 2)
Two Weeks: Transformers: Rise of the Beasts