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A pop culture and politics podcast by millennials of color.

SWOTI Someone's Wrong On The Internet

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A pop culture and politics podcast by millennials of color.

    Not So Mellow Yellow: Joe's Blond Hair, Sarah Jeong, and Free Speech Indecision On the Left

    Not So Mellow Yellow: Joe's Blond Hair, Sarah Jeong, and Free Speech Indecision On the Left

    Hello, SWOTI-boos! After Joe gives an account of his life as an amateur model in Provincetown (aka gay Mecca) and Brie offers a sneak peak of her leftist-themed, farewell-to-NYC party (aka She Left), the SWOTI hosts dive into some thought-provoking topics. First, they discuss the implications of Alex Jones being removed from Facebook, YouTube, and iTunes. Why has it been so challenging for these companies—and even liberals—to come up with a rigorous, consistent policy to address what does and does not constitute hate speech? Is there room for nuance, context or humor when making these decisions? And how do we draft rules that treat both Sarah Jeong, the now notorious New York Times writer who tweeted about enjoying being cruel to old white men, and Alex Jones, outright bigot and conspiracy peddler, fairly?

    Next, Joe makes things personal by talking about how his decision to go blonde may be influenced by Eurocentricity. What does it mean, if anything, to dye one's hair? Is it a political statement? A sign of freedom from society's attitudes about what an Asian person "should" look like? Or is it just a cool, Instagram-worthy look?

    Finally, the SWOTI hosts talk their U Glads (BoJack Horseman) and U Mads (Queer Eye). Is BoJack the most insightful, hilarious (and bleak) show on Netflx? Are Brie and her boyfriend partners in life *and* binge watching? (Sorta.) Does Queer Eye reinforce capitalist notions of what it means to be a whole, healthy human being? Does Joe now identify as a Marxist?

    As always, let us know what you think. And please rate us and leave us a review on iTunes!

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    • 57 min
    Episode 32. Now Play Nice: Debating Civility, Ocasio-Cortez's Victory, and S. Johansson: Trans Icon

    Episode 32. Now Play Nice: Debating Civility, Ocasio-Cortez's Victory, and S. Johansson: Trans Icon

    And we're back! After Joe gives an update on his whirlwind adventures to Hawaii and Iceland (including the joy of traveling internationally with a sibling), the SWOTI hosts dive in to talk politics and pop culture. First, Joe and Brie offer their thoughts on Democratic Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's primary victory in New York City. Is this a harbinger for a socialist wave come November? Or is socialism still too much of a dirty word for the average American voter? And why is it, our hosts wonder, that people can't wrap their minds around the fact that many of the public programs American citizens value most—Medicare, Social Security, and Disability, to name a few—are, in fact, socialist programs? Are we all actually socialists in capitalists' clothing?

    Next, the SWOTI hosts wax philosophical about civility. In these troubled times, many have pushed for the notion that we must remain "civil" to one another, in spite of our political differences. But how can we agree on *how* to be civil when there isn't a shared definition of the concept? Must we reconcile how easy it is for us to opportunistically argue for civility, but only when it's our ideas that are being attacked? In other words, is one man's gay wedding cake baker another woman's Scott Pruitt? Is it ever all right to kick Sarah Huckabee Sanders out of a restaurant?

    Finally, we also talk about some U Mads and U Glads, specifically Joe's disapproval of casting everyone's favorite Asian actress Scarlett Johansson as a trans character in an upcoming film, and Brie's delight in "Sorry to Bother You," a mainstream film that centers POCs, union organizing, and social revolution. And stay tuned for the SWOTI hosts fawning over Cate Blanchett, the most ravishing actress of modern cinema.

    Again, we have to apologize for the delay in getting this episode out, but we promise it was worth the wait! As always, let us know what you think. And please rate us and leave us a review on iTunes!

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    • 57 min
    Episode 31. Everyone's A Little Bit...Advantaged?: Calling Out "Privilege" + Spotify’s Inconsistency

    Episode 31. Everyone's A Little Bit...Advantaged?: Calling Out "Privilege" + Spotify’s Inconsistency

    So...we need to talk about privilege, both as a concept and as a rhetorical tool. Privilege is a framing device that's been embraced by liberals to surface the various advantages and disadvantages bestowed upon individuals because of their identities. Unlike some folks on the right, Joe and Brie can agree that privilege exists. (Also, news flash: The Earth is round.) But has the term privilege outlasted its strategic utility? Rather than revealing various power structures and relationships, is the word now only used to shut down conversations with those on the right? Are there better alternatives that we might use? And, practically speaking, are there ways that we can highlight the privilege of others without putting them on the defensive?

    We also talk about Spotify's "Hateful Conduct" policy and the company's decision to pull R. Kelly from its playlists. Even though this policy was recently reversed, it's worth re-examining, particularly in light of recent events involving the erasure of men like Bill Cosby. Are we being consistent in how we treat public figures who have been accused of heinous behavior? And what are we actually accomplishing when we remove them from our cultural archives?

    Stay tuned for some guilty pleasure karaoke involving early aughts chanteuse, Vanessa Carlton. (Or is that Michelle Branch?) Plus, some U Mads and U Glads about Janelle Monae's new album (#glad) and the sexual politics of your mother's favorite sitcom, Frasier (#mad).

    Apologies for the delay in getting this episode out, but we're positive you'll enjoy it! As always, let us know what you think. And please rate us and leave us a review on iTunes!

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    • 58 min
    Episode 30. Brie's Mooney Mooves, Peace in Korea, Issa Rae-cism, and the Lies of Joy-Ann Reid

    Episode 30. Brie's Mooney Mooves, Peace in Korea, Issa Rae-cism, and the Lies of Joy-Ann Reid

    After an unexpectedly long hiatus, Joe and Brie are back to catch you up on who's wrong on the internet. First, they dish about what's new in their lives: Joe struggles with how he'll manage to take thirst-trap selfies with a broken phone. And in almost as gripping news, Brie dishes on her new job at The Intercept. How does she feel about leaving the law behind? And will our favorite leftist co-host be censoring herself now that she's an editor at The Intercept? (Nope.)

    Then, after a brief detour to give their initial impressions of the Crazy Rich Asians trailer, the pair tackle what's going on in the Korean Peninsula. As a Korean American, Joe shares his feelings about the official end to the Koren War. What does this mean for his family? Is it possible—dear god—that we have Trump to thank for all of this? Is denuclearization actually in the cards? Plus, Brie admits that she may have the hots for a certain South Korean president, and Joe reveals a cosmetic connection to North Korea's Kim Jong Un.

    Finally, Brie and Joe grapple with some U Mads; after all, it's been over a month, and there's a lot to be mad about! First, what exactly was Joy-Ann Reid thinking? Did she forget that the internet saves all receipts? And is she genuinely holding herself accountable for her past homophobic comments? Next, the co-hosts discuss the Michelle Wolf kerfuffle at the White House Correspondents' Dinner. Joe and Brie are on the fence about whether the "smokey eye" joke about Sarah Huckabee Sanders was misogynistic. But are liberals incorrectly digging in their heels by defending Wolf? And finally, everyone's favorite awkward black girl, Issa Rae, has been in the news for her suggestion that black women should exclusively date Asian men because they're a better "intellectual match" for one another. As ostensible intellectual matches, Brie and Joe explain why this is all kinds of wrong.

    We are so glad to be back! As always, let us know what you think. Rate us and leave us a review on iTunes!

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    • 58 min
    Episode 29. Michael Brooks, Fish Sex, Me Too, Farrakhan, & The West Virginia Teachers Strike

    Episode 29. Michael Brooks, Fish Sex, Me Too, Farrakhan, & The West Virginia Teachers Strike

    The illustrious Michael Jamal Brooks of the Michael Brooks Show joins us for the entire episode, and it's a real treat!

    We chat about his run in with "Tiger Mom's" progeny, the new Rachel Dolezal Netflix special, and the Oscars, before drilling down on The Shape of Water and the ethics of casting able-bodied actors to play characters with disabilities. (Brie also questions the public's acceptence of woman/fish bestialtiy #fishsex). We also debate Kobe Bryant's acceptance of an Oscar in the era of #metoo, and the recent Louis Farrakhan/Tamika Mallory anti-semitism controversy.

    We had so much fun with Brooks we almost didn't get to the meat & potatoes, but we close out with a discussion of the recent West Virginia teachers strike, and get Brooks's read on where the movement goes next.

    Please forgive Brie for calling Octavia Spencer "Olivia Spencer" half a dozen times!

    As always, let us know what you think! Rate us and leave us a review on iTunes!

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    • 1 hr 11 min
    Episode 28. Should I Eat Meat? Spend $? Morality & Consumption w/ Nathan Robinson PLUS Black Panther

    Episode 28. Should I Eat Meat? Spend $? Morality & Consumption w/ Nathan Robinson PLUS Black Panther

    This episode is late but great! Joe and Brie catch up on some very important cultural events: figure skater Nathan Chen and his...physique, and the hottest queen in the game, Janelle Monae. Her music video "Make Me Feel" is definitely making us feel some things. Are Brie and Joe bisexual? Maybe. (Probably not.) Then, they take on the hottest Black Panther take, which asks whether the film is actually anti-revolutionary because it associates global black liberation with a murderous villain. (It's a no from Brie.) If you want to miss spoilers, pause when they start talking about Black Panther and skip to 26:36.

    The pair is then joined by founder and editor of Current Affairs magazine, Nathan Robinson, to discuss two of his recent articles which asks what moral obligation individuals have to be more ethical consumers. The first article, "Meat and the H-Word," asks whether our indifference to the suffering caused by our meat consumption is properly analogized to the holocaust. How should we understand the value of animal lives? Would Brie really eat her own dog? How's her vegetarianism going?

    The hosts then go on to examine Robinson's piece on the morality of consumption using his piece "Does Caring About Others Mean You Have to be a Joyless Ascetic?" Is there such a thing as a maximum moral income? If so, how do you set it? Is it 30k? 60k? 100k? How do we decide what type of consumption is justified insofar as it creates a life full of joy and beautiful things -- a life worth living -- and when do we decide that doing so in the face of poverty is simply inexcusable? *Should* we buy that extra umbrella? Or those thigh-high boots?

    We wrestle with some REALLY tough questions in this one, but Robinson's wit, plucky demeanor, and unbeatable accent make it fun.

    As always, let us know what you think! Rate us and leave us a review on iTunes!

    And don't forget to visit our sponsors:

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    https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/02/does-caring-about-other-people-mean-you-have-to-be-a-joyless-ascetic

    https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/01/meat-and-the-h-word

    • 1 hr 22 min

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