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Ishrat Husain comes on for a fiery episode of The Pakistan Experience on the Economy of Pakistan.

On this week's episode, we discuss what India got right in the 90s, Modi's Economy, The Early Years of Pakistan's Bureaucracy, Economic Disparities between East and West Pakistan, Military Governments, Ishrat Husain's tenure as State Bank Governor, Real Estate, Pervez Musharaf's Policies, 18th Amendment and Balochistan.

Ishrat Husain is a Pakistani banker and economist who served as the dean of the Institute of Business Administration (2008-2016) and the Governor of the State Bank of Pakistan (1999-2006). He also served as Advisor to Prime Minister Imran Khan for Institutional Reforms & Austerity.

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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:30 Why did India get right with their Economy
7:30 Modi's Economy
14:00 Early years of Pakistan's Development, Nationalization and GDP Growth
23:00 Economic disparities between East and West Pakistan
28:58 The initial Civil-Bureucratic-Military Leadership of Pakistan
39:30 Instability destroys Economic Growth and PTI's Government
45:52 State Bank, Inflation and Aid to Military Governments
1:01:00 Instability, State Bank Policies of Ishrat Hussain and TERF
1:15:00 Mushraf's Policies, Balochistan and 18th Ammendment
1:32:00 Should bureaucrats work under Military Governments?
1:36:00 Real Estate and DHAs
1:46:30 SIFC
1:51:00 IMF and Audience Questions

Pakistan Lost is a series of audio essays on history exploring the choices that were made that impacted millions of people for decades to come.

The Fourth episode looks at the Imposition of Urdu as a National Language on Pakistan:

Watch all the episodes of Pakistan Lost in Urdu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEh4HSt8V-E&list=PLlQZ9NZnjq5ppq4gpdZhlq28_OlgoBxYy

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Journalist and Editor of Aman ki Asha, Beena Sarwar, comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss India-Pakistan relations.

On this episode we discuss, Aman ki Asha, Hindutva Politics, Appetite for Peace in India and Pakistan, Selling Hate Online, Modi visiting Pakistan, Visa Policy, Kartarpur, Cultural Connections, Visiting India and whether sentiments in India changed after 26/11.

Beena Sarwar is a Pakistani journalist, artist and filmmaker focusing on human rights, media and peace.

She resides in Boston and is currently the editor of the Aman ki Asha (Hope for Peace) initiative, that aims to develop peace between the countries of India and Pakistan.

The initiative is jointly sponsored by the Jang group in Pakistan and the Times of India across the border.

In March 2021, she founded the Southasia Peace Action Network or SAPAN along with other peace activists from across South Asia. In August 2022, Sapan informally launched Sapan News Network, a news and features syndicated service in the making. She is its founding editor.



The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations.
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The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.
Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh
Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/
Twitter.com/shehzad89




Chapters
0:00 Introduction
1:30 Aman ki Asha, People to People and Sapan
6:30 Borders, Trade and Visa Policy
12:46 Did India change after 26/11
15:00 Cultural Connections and Memory of Partition
24:30 Kartarpur, Tourism and Learning from Each other
28:45 Audience Questions and Love over Hate
42:00 First Part of the Podcast

Dr. Izzeldin Abuelaish comes on for a remarkable episode of The Pakistan Experience on Israel, Palestine and hatred. Dr. Izzeldin talks about Israel killing his daughters, his niece, and 22 of his family members but still vowing not to let hatred consume him.

We discuss Gaza, Resilience, Belief, Faith, the Nakbah, the Cruelty of the World, Hatred, Loss and the Current Situation in Gaza.

Dr. Izzeldin Abuelaish, an esteemed Palestinian-Canadian physician and humanitarian, was born in the Jabalia refugee camp in Gaza on August 15, 1958. He is renowned for his unwavering commitment to peace, education, and women’s empowerment, particularly following the tragic loss of three daughters during Israel’s Operation Cast Lead in January 2009.

Abuelaish studied medicine at Cairo University before moving to Canada in 1987 to pursue further training as a gynecologist. In addition to being a respected medical professional, he has dedicated himself to promoting cross-border understanding between Palestinians and Israelis through various initiatives such as the Daughters for Life Foundation (DFLF), which provides scholarships to young female students from conflict zones around the world.

His work with DFLF led him to be named one of Time Magazine’s “100 Most Influential People” in 2010. The foundation also inspired his bestselling memoir, “I Shall Not Hate,” published in 2010, which chronicles his personal journey towards forgiveness after losing his family members.
In recognition of his efforts, Abuelaish received numerous awards, including the Order of Ontario, the United Nations Prize in Field Support, and the Right Livelihood Award, often referred to as the Alternative Nobel Prize. His advocacy for peace and justice continues to inspire people worldwide, making him a prominent figure in global discussions about conflict resolution and reconciliation.

The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations.
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To support the channel:
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The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.
Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh
Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/
Twitter.com/shehzad89


Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:30 Gratitude, Strength and Belief in God
8:50 The experience and memory of Nakbah
14:00 Losing my daughters and losing faith in humanity
26:00 Gaza Strip, Never Again and the Cruelty of the World
38:30 Hatred and choosing not to hate
47:30 Current Situation in Gaza and Accountability of the World

Amn Karim Ahmad, author of "We Are Going to be Okay" comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss Motherhood, Pregnancy, Biology, Postpartum Depression, anxieties and struggles of a first time mother, therapy and her book.

Amn Karim Ahmad was born and raised in Karachi, Pakistan. She studied in Canada and Australia for her undergraduate and postgraduate degree respectively.

After getting married she moved to Virginia, USA where she worked as an elementary school ESL teacher. Amn became a first time mother to a baby boy in September 2021. She has been vocal about her struggles with postpartum on her personal social media blogs, which motivated her to write this book in an attempt to create a connection with others like herself. Amn wrote this book on the notes app of her phone at 3am one night as she was burping her newborn. She had always wanted to write a book for her son but once she had finished typing, she realized she had written something for herself instead.

This is the link to her insta https://www.instagram.com/weregoingtobeokaybook

The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations.
Please consider supporting us on Patreon:
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The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.
Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh
Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/
Twitter.com/shehzad89


Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
2:00 What is Postpartum Depression and Baby Anxiety
10:10 Biology, Struggles and Depression
22:41 Pregnancy and Social Support
28:30 Communication and the role of the Husband
35:40 Realizing I wasn't okay
42:00 Motherhood and relationship with your Mother
49:00 We are going to be okay

Ali Usman Qasmi comes back on The Pakistan Experience to discuss his new book, “Qaum, Mulk, Sultanat” - on this episode we do a deep dive in the 1950s in Pakistan; how was Pakistan turned into an Islamic State?

We discuss Ayub Khan, The National Anthem, the Indian Citizenship Act, the notion of the Nation State, Establishment's narratives and Imran Khan taking over the Establishment's narrative.

After the trauma of mass violence and massive population movements around the partition of India and Pakistan in 1947, both new nation states faced the enormous challenge of creating new national narratives, symbols, and histories, as well as a new framework for their political life. While leadership in India claimed the anti-colonial movement, Gandhi, and a civilizational legacy in the subcontinent, the new political elite in Pakistan were faced with a more complex task: to carve out a separate and distinct Muslim history and political tradition from a millennium long history of cultural and religious interaction, mixing, and coexistence.

Drawing on a rich archive of diverse sources, Ali Qasmi traces the complex development of ideas of citizenship and national belonging in the postcolonial Muslim state, offering a nuanced and sweeping history of the country’s formative period. Qasmi paints a rich picture of the long, arduous, and often conflict-ridden process of writing a democratic constitution of Pakistan, while simultaneously narrating the invention of a range of new rituals of state—such as the exact color of the flag, the precise date of birth of the national poet of Pakistan, and the observation of Eid as a “national festival”—providing an illuminating analysis of the practices of being Pakistani, and a new portrait of Muslim history in the subcontinent.

Ali Usman Qasmi is Associate Professor of History at Lahore University of Management Sciences.

The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations.
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The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.
Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh
Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/
Twitter.com/shehzad89


Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
2:00 India, Citizenship Act and What does it mean to be a Citizen?
21:00 Building a nation-state after Partition in Pakistan
39:13 Insecurities of the Pakistani State and Fear of Democracy
54:00 Pakistan's state use of Islam
1:11:42 Creation of Pakistan, Symbolism and Myth Making
1:21:00 Establishment's Narratives about Pakistan
2:08:00 National Anthem
2:12:30 Audience Questions