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Vox Conversations brings you discussions between the brightest minds and the deepest thinkers; conversations that will cause you to question old assumptions and think about the world and our role in it in a new light. Join Sean Illing, Jamil Smith, and their colleagues across the Vox newsroom for new episodes every Monday and Thursday.

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Vox Conversations brings you discussions between the brightest minds and the deepest thinkers; conversations that will cause you to question old assumptions and think about the world and our role in it in a new light. Join Sean Illing, Jamil Smith, and their colleagues across the Vox newsroom for new episodes every Monday and Thursday.

    Workers of the world, stay home!

    Workers of the world, stay home!

    Sean Illing talks with Anne Helen Petersen and her partner Charlie Warzel about their new book, Out of Office: The Big Problem and Bigger Promise of Working from Home. They talk about a new model of remote work, why Americans have a problematic relationship with work, and how to move toward a rational future (as opposed to a national emergency) of working from home.
    Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), Interviews Writer, Vox
    Guests: Anne Helen Petersen (@annehelen) & Charlie Warzel (@cwarzel), authors
    References: 


    Out of Office: The Big Problem and Bigger Promise of Working from Home by Charlie Warzel and Anne Helen Petersen (Knopf; Dec. 7, 2021)


    "How millennials became the burnout generation" by Sean Illing, in conversation with Anne Helen Petersen (Vox; Dec. 3, 2020)


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    • 1 hr 2 min
    How progressives get back in the game

    How progressives get back in the game

    Sean Illing talks with Briahna Joy Gray, the former national press secretary for the Bernie Sanders 2020 Presidential campaign, and current host of the Bad Faith podcast. They discuss the practical challenges facing the Left in the Biden era, untangle the ways in which race and class affect electoral outcomes and should influence messaging strategies, and assess the state of the ongoing effort for a platform of robust, material economic changes.
    Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), Interviews Writer, Vox
    Guest: Briahna Joy Gray (@briebriejoy), Host, Bad Faith podcast
    References: 


    "Looking for Obama's hidden hand in candidates coalescing around Biden" by Carol E. Lee, Kristen Welker, Josh Lederman and Amanda Golden (NBC News; Mar. 2, 2020)


    "'Accelerate the Endgame': Obama's Role in Wrapping Up the Primary" by Glenn Thrush (New York Times; Apr. 14, 2020)


    "Race and Realignments In Recent American Elections" by Michael Barber and Jeremy C. Pope (working paper; Nov. 8)


    "Commonsense Solidarity: How a working-class coalition can be built, and maintained" by Jared Abbott, Leanne Fan, et al. (Jacobin & Center for Working-Class Politics; Nov. 2021)

    Bad Faith, ep. 117: "Are Progressive Policies Really Popular? w/ Matt Bruenig, Eric Levitz, & Osita Nwanevu" (YouTube; Oct. 22)


    "A Problem for Kamala Harris: Can a Prosecutor Become President in the Age of Black Lives Matter?" by Briahna Joy Gray (The Intercept; Jan. 20, 2019)


    "How Barack Obama helped convince NBA players to end their strike and return to play" by Ricky O'Donnell (SB Nation; Aug. 29, 2020)


    White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo (Beacon; 2020)


    Why I Am Not a Feminist: A Feminist Manifesto by Jessa Crispin (Melville House; 2017)


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    • 1 hr 3 min
    The highs and lows of the "creator economy"

    The highs and lows of the "creator economy"

    Vox's Rebecca Jennings talks with Taylor Lorenz, tech culture reporter for the New York Times, about the creator economy: what it is, who's in it, and why more people are paying attention to it. They also talk about the hidden toll of running your own individual media company, the elusive term "cheugy," and the perils of reporting on internet culture and becoming (as Taylor occasionally has) part of the story.
    Host: Rebecca Jennings (@rebexxxxa), senior correspondent, Vox
    Guest: Taylor Lorenz (@TaylorLorenz), technology reporter, New York Times
    References: 


    "For Creators, Everything Is for Sale" by Taylor Lorenz (New York Times; Mar. 11)


    "The sexfluencers" by Rebecca Jennings (Vox; Oct. 28)


    "my boss is an app and I owe it money" by @prophethusband (Mar. 23, 2018)


    "The D'Amelio kids are not all right" by Rebecca Jennings (Vox; Sept. 14)


    Chasing Cameron dir. Brandon Ayres (Netflix; 2016)


    "NFTs Weren't Supposed to End Like This" by Anil Dash (The Atlantic; Apr. 2)


    "What Is 'Cheugy'? You Know It When You See It" by Taylor Lorenz (New York Times; May 3)


    "What is cheugy? Here are 10 ways to know if you fit the description" by Alexander Kacala and Miah Hardy (The Today Show; May 6)


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    • 49 min
    Why Chris Hayes thinks we're all famous now

    Why Chris Hayes thinks we're all famous now

    Sean Illing talks with Chris Hayes, author, commentator, and host of All In With Chris Hayes on MSNBC. They discuss his recent essay in the New Yorker about fame and the internet, why we seek attention from strangers online, and how some German philosophers might offer guidance for our predicament.
    Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), Interviews Writer, Vox
    Guest: Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes), host, All In With Chris Hayes on MSNBC
    References: 


    "On the Internet, We're Always Famous" by Chris Hayes (New Yorker; Sept. 24)


    “We Should All Know Less About Each Other” by Michelle Goldberg (New York Times; Nov. 1)

    Plato, Phaedrus (c. 370 BCE)


    Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business by Neil Postman (Penguin; 2005)

    G.W.F. Hegel, Phenomenology of Spirit (1807)


    Introduction to the Reading of Hegel: Lectures on the "Phenomenology of Spirit" by Alexandre Kojève (1947; tr. 1969)


    The Attention Merchants: The Epic Scramble to Get Inside Our Heads by Tim Wu (Vintage; 2017)


    Why Buddhism is True: The Science and Philosophy of Meditation and Enlightenment by Robert Wright (Simon & Schuster; 2018)


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    • 1 hr
    The stories soul food tells

    The stories soul food tells

    Vox's Jamil Smith talks with Caroline Randall Williams, academic, poet, and co-author (with her mother, Alice Randall) of Soul Food Love. They discuss the ways in which the African American culinary tradition is interpreted, how to tell stories through cooking, and why what we cook and eat is inextricably bound up with who we are.
    Host: Jamil Smith (@JamilSmith), Senior Correspondent, Vox
    Guest: Caroline Randall Williams (@caroranwill), author; writer-in-residence of Medicine, Health, and Society, Vanderbilt University
    References: 


    "You Want a Confederate Monument? My Body Is a Confederate Monument" by Caroline Randall Williams (New York Times; June 26, 2020)


    Soul Food Love: Healthy Recipes Inspired by One Hundred Years of Cooking in a Black Family by Alice Randall and Caroline Randall Williams (Clarkson Potter; 2015)


    High on the Hog: How African American Cuisine Transformed America, dir. by Roger Ross Williams, Yoruba Richen, and Jonathan Clasberry (Netflix; 2021)


    "Race, Ethnicity, Expressive Authenticity: Can White People Sing the Blues?" by Joel Rudinow (Journal of Aesthetics and Art Criticism, 52 (1); 1994)


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    • 51 min
    The paradox of American freedom

    The paradox of American freedom

    Sean Illing talks with Sebastian Junger, journalist, filmmaker, and author of the recent book Freedom. Informed by his experience hiking (and trespassing) along America's rail lines, Junger discusses the paradoxes of a "free" society, his recent near-death experience, and how the definition of freedom can change over the course of a life.
    Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), Interviews Writer, Vox
    Guest: Sebastian Junger (@sebastianjunger), author & filmmaker
    References: 


    Freedom by Sebastian Junger (Simon & Schuster; 2021)


    The Last Patrol dir. Sebastian Junger (HBO Films; 2014)


    Our Political Nature: Two Evolutionary Origins of What Divides Us by Avi Tuschman (Rowman & Littlefield; 2013)


    Tribe: On Homecoming and Belonging by Sebastian Junger (Twelve; 2016)


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    • 57 min

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