183 episodes

I released my first podcast in 2009. I was hooked and have been recording deep-dive conversations with interesting and creative people about what they do and why they do it ever since.

Jeffery Saddoris: Everything Jeffery Saddoris

    • Society & Culture
    • 4.8 • 32 Ratings

I released my first podcast in 2009. I was hooked and have been recording deep-dive conversations with interesting and creative people about what they do and why they do it ever since.

    Deep Natter 52: A Terrible Artistic Model

    Deep Natter 52: A Terrible Artistic Model

    In this episode, Sean is back and shares some of his thoughts and takeaways from his recent creative retreat in Tuscany. Also, I finally finished The Last of Us 2, which we’ve wanted to talk about literally for years. I think it’s safe to say that for each of us, not only was it an incredible gaming experience, but also an example of how great storytelling and well-paced narrative can transcend mediums.
    LINKS
    The Meaning in the Making
    CONNECT WITH SEAN
    Website: http://seantucker.photography 
    Twitter: @seantuck 
    Instagram: @seantuck 
    YouTube: Sean Tucker
    CONNECT WITH JEFFERY
    Website: https://jefferysaddoris.com 
    Twitter: @jefferysaddoris 
    Instagram: @jefferysaddoris
    You can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.
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    MUSIC
    High Line by Duffmusiq
    Music featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two additional months of Artlist free when you sign up: https://bit.ly/JS_Artlist
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    • 54 min
    Deep Natter 51: Everything’s an Experiment

    Deep Natter 51: Everything’s an Experiment

    Last week, I was joined by Maarten Rots for a terrific conversation around his approach to creativity. As is often the case when talking about the creative process, there’s always more to unpack so I asked Maarten if he’d be willing to come back to continue the conversation. In this episode, while in some ways we’re picking up where we left off, we also go in some different directions, specifically around giving ourselves permission to play and being okay when a project goes somewhere we never intended.
    LINKS
    Do the Work! by Steven Pressfield

    CONNECT WITH MAARTEN
    Website: https://www.maartenrots.nl
    March & Rock magazine: https://marchandrock.com
    Instagram: @maartenrots

    CONNECT WITH JEFFERY
    Website: https://jefferysaddoris.com 
    Twitter: @jefferysaddoris 
    Instagram: @jefferysaddoris
    You can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.
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    Subscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed.
    SUPPORT
    Leave a review or a rating wherever you listen, or you can DONATE to support the shows more directly.
    MUSIC
    High Line by Duffmusiq
    Music featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two additional months of Artlist free when you sign up: https://bit.ly/JS_Artlist
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    • 46 min
    Deep Natter 50: You Can Always Try Again

    Deep Natter 50: You Can Always Try Again

    This is episode 50 of Deep Natter and today we’ve got a little treat for you. If you’re a regular listener, you’ve undoubtedly heard the name Maarten Rots. He’s someone that Sean and I have mentioned a number of times on the show, usually in reference to how creative he is. Back in 2020, Sean even did a video about him  He’s an artist in every sense of the word and in this episode, Maarten and I are talking about his approach to creativity which really centers around self-care and wellness. It’s a terrific conversation that I’m sure you’re going to enjoy.

    LINKS
    Does Every Photograph have to Tell a Story? (feat. Maarten Rots)
    The Practice by Seth Godin
    CONNECT WITH MAARTEN
    Website: https://www.maartenrots.nl
    Instagram: @maartenrots
    March & Rock magazine: marchandrock.com
    CONNECT WITH JEFFERY
    Website: https://jefferysaddoris.com 
    Twitter: @jefferysaddoris 
    Instagram: @jefferysaddoris
    You can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.
    SUBSCRIBE
    Subscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed.
    SUPPORT
    Leave a review or a rating wherever you listen, or you can DONATE to support the shows more directly.
    MUSIC
    High Line by Duffmusiq
    Music featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two additional months of Artlist free when you sign up: https://bit.ly/JS_Artlist
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    • 49 min
    Iteration 68: Putting My Self First

    Iteration 68: Putting My Self First

    One of the most difficult things about being a freelance creative is that you’re basically always on the clock. Sure, you can wait for inspiration to strike, but in my experience, you’ll end up waiting more than making. As Chuck Close famously said, “Inspiration is for amateurs. The rest of us just show up and get to work.” While I understand what he’s saying, and may even agree with it to an extent, sometimes it’s not that easy. I think there’s a middle ground where instead of simply waiting for inspiration to strike, we can think about the purpose and intention we want to bring to our work before embarking on the uncertain journey of making it.

    LINKS
    Maarten Rots
    The Practice by Seth Godin
    Creativity, Inc. by Ed Catmull

    CONNECT WITH ME
    Website: https://jefferysaddoris.com 
    Twitter: @jefferysaddoris 
    Instagram: @jefferysaddoris

    SUBSCRIBE
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    SUPPORT
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    MUSIC
    Music For Workplaces by Jeffery Saddoris
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    • 5 min
    Deep Natter 49: Structured But Simple

    Deep Natter 49: Structured But Simple

    Last week, I was talking to Maarten Rots—who you’ve heard us mention several times on the show—and I was asking him how he manages to stay so creative. His answer not only surprised me, but it inspired me to adopt a similar approach to my own creativity in an experiment for the month of June. Talking it through with Sean launched us into a terrific discussion around making and self-care and, what he calls, “turning down the bullying boss.”

    LINKS
    The Meaning in the Making
    Carl Jung
    CONNECT WITH SEAN
    Website: http://seantucker.photography
    Twitter: @seantuck 
    Instagram: @seantuck 
    YouTube: Sean Tucker
    CONNECT WITH JEFFERY
    Website: https://jefferysaddoris.com 
    Twitter: @jefferysaddoris 
    Instagram: @jefferysaddoris
    You can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.
    SUBSCRIBE
    Subscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed.
    SUPPORT
    Leave a review or a rating wherever you listen, or you can DONATE to support the shows more directly.
    MUSIC
    High Line by Duffmusiq
    Music featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two additional months of Artlist free when you sign up: https://bit.ly/JS_Artlist
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    • 45 min
    Deep Natter 48: Feelings Aren’t Facts

    Deep Natter 48: Feelings Aren’t Facts

    A few days ago, I came across a post that painted a pretty grim portrait of our collective futures—and here’s the thing…I wasn’t surprised by it at all. If I’m being honest, it’s something that I often feel anyway. When I brought it up to Sean, he was quick to point out that the way we feel is often just that, a feeling, not a fact. In this especially deep natter, we unpack happiness, negativity bias, and why for many of us, the bad stuff is often easier to believe.
    LINKS
    Is Happiness a Choice?
    Vice article: We’re Doomed
    Steven Pinker: Enlightenment Now
    Viktor Frankl: Man’s Search for Meaning
    Negativity bias
    Rick Hanson (velcro/teflon)
    Confirmation bias
    CONNECT WITH SEAN
    Website: http://seantucker.photography 
    Twitter: @seantuck 
    Instagram: @seantuck 
    YouTube: Sean Tucker
    CONNECT WITH JEFFERY
    Website: https://jefferysaddoris.com 
    Twitter: @jefferysaddoris 
    Instagram: @jefferysaddoris
    You can also connect with both of us by sending an email to deepnatter@gmail.com.
    SUBSCRIBE
    Subscribe to Jeffery Saddoris: Everything in your favorite podcast app to get every show I release in one feed.
    SUPPORT
    Leave a review or a rating wherever you listen, or you can DONATE to support the shows more directly.
    MUSIC
    High Line by Duffmusiq
    Music featured in this episode is licensed from Artlist, which is a terrific music licensing platform for YouTubers and filmmakers. Use the following link to get two additional months of Artlist free when you sign up: https://bit.ly/JS_Artlist
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    This post may contain affiliate links. If you use these links to buy something, I may earn a commission. Thanks.
    Support the show

    • 43 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
32 Ratings

32 Ratings

Creative content ,

essential listening for anyone interested in making

I’ve said it elsewhere, but this is hands down the most important podcast I listen to. All of Jeffery’s work is excellent, heartfelt, and honest and the Deep Natter conversations with Sean Tucker aren’t to be missed. I play them when I’m out searching for pictures to take for a photo book I’m working on. Their conversations put me in the right headspace, are upbeat and positive, but cut through to the essentials of living a creative life. It’s like having two sincere friends encourage you every step of the way. Not sure I can say thanks enough.

SherriSM ,

Jeffery Saddoris is...

...one of the best interviewers I've listened to! With him, interviewing/podcasting about art and creativity becomes an art all of it's own.

Mutantgames ,

He will be missed.

Thank you for the Father Bill episode, hearing his voice at the end made me sob.
I’m honored to say that he was a good friend of mine and there isn’t a day that goes by that I don’t think of something that he would love and reach for my phone and then remember that can’t call him 😥
I’m a big collector of his work and have collaborated with him on a few projects and just having his works around me everyday seems to bring me peace just like the man himself. He said in his last print interview

“I look around and the world seems dark and frightening. I want to be the light.”

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