45 episodes

Journalist and bestselling author Michael Lewis takes a searing look at what’s happened to fairness in American life through the lens of people who depend on public trust. After exploring what’s happened to referees and coaches, the third season of Against the Rules tackles what’s happened to our trust in experts and expertise. An expert has probably saved your life more than once. So why is it so hard to judge who the real experts are? And why, once we’ve found them, do we struggle to listen to what experts have to say? In this season, we meet oceanographers and baseball writers, nurses and former gang members — people who don’t have a lot in common but the mixed blessing of their expertise.

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Against the Rules with Michael Lewis Pushkin

    • Society & Culture
    • 4.5 • 8.6K Ratings

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Journalist and bestselling author Michael Lewis takes a searing look at what’s happened to fairness in American life through the lens of people who depend on public trust. After exploring what’s happened to referees and coaches, the third season of Against the Rules tackles what’s happened to our trust in experts and expertise. An expert has probably saved your life more than once. So why is it so hard to judge who the real experts are? And why, once we’ve found them, do we struggle to listen to what experts have to say? In this season, we meet oceanographers and baseball writers, nurses and former gang members — people who don’t have a lot in common but the mixed blessing of their expertise.

iHeartMedia is the exclusive podcast partner of Pushkin Industries.

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    Episode 1: Six Levels Down

    Episode 1: Six Levels Down

    Athenahealth was just another healthcare provider facing the biggest problem US doctors face: not treating patients, but getting insurance companies to pay their bills. But then the company figured out how to fix the problem, by recognizing an overlooked expert toiling in the hospital basement.
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    • 42 min
    REBROADCAST: The Hand of Leonardo

    REBROADCAST: The Hand of Leonardo

    Season Three of Against the Rules continues in this feed next Tuesday. In the meantime, Michael Lewis has an update on one of the most popular episodes from his first season, about a painting that may or may not have been done by Leonardo.

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    • 43 min
    Episode 2: The Art of the Untold Story

    Episode 2: The Art of the Untold Story

    Why can’t we see the experts right in front of us, even when they're saving our lives? Maybe it's because the specialized knowledge of many experts defies good storytelling. We hear from a nonprofit trying to elevate the esoteric work of government experts, and we hear from one of their nominees. His work has changed the survival prospects for many lost at sea, but even those survivors have never heard his name.

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    • 38 min
    Programming Note

    Programming Note

    We’re hard at work now on episode 6. Check back here for it next Tuesday.
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    • 22 sec
    Episode 3: Field of Ignorance

    Episode 3: Field of Ignorance

    The right kind of expert, at the right time, can change everything. While working as a security guard at a pork-and-beans cannery in Kansas, Bill James started writing about baseball. But writing about it through the poetry of statistical analysis. It took a long time, but James's way of looking at the game changed more than just baseball.

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    • 34 min
    Episode 4: Respect the Polygon

    Episode 4: Respect the Polygon

    Experts know more now than ever before. And we’re more critical of them than ever before, too. But one kind of expert really gets us riled up: the type who deals in probabilities. We hear from meteorologists, political forecasters, and even nurses about why calculating the odds is so hard, and why we all suffer the deadly consequences as a result.

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    • 33 min

Customer Reviews

4.5 out of 5
8.6K Ratings

8.6K Ratings

ArtG1965 ,

Fascinating Info. Conveyed Entertainingly

Though I’m about as far from a sports fan as you’ll ever meet, Mr. Lewis’s reporting on statistics, science and experts in Season 3 ( best so far ) are educational, well reported and entertaining too.

As always, ignore 1 star reviews from butt-hurt QANON Trumpers which sadly have polluted user reviews here and elsewhere since 2016. Excessive commercials require FF is my only negative.

Martyjjo ,

THE BEST

Michael, if you ever see this I just want you to know that I value your contributions to the podcast world, and the world in general more than anything. Your podcast, your books, and your way of thinking has significantly altered my life. You’re doing amazing work, never stop!!!

nholaday ,

Amazing quality

Really interesting and fun to listen to

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