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Megan Smiley interviews recovering lawyers, career advisors, and other professionals for advice and inspiration on transitioning out of law practice.

The Lawyer's Escape Pod Megan Smiley

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    • 5.0 • 23 Ratings

Megan Smiley interviews recovering lawyers, career advisors, and other professionals for advice and inspiration on transitioning out of law practice.

    Emily Hirsekorn goes from law to higher education to career confidence coaching

    Emily Hirsekorn goes from law to higher education to career confidence coaching

    Emily Hirsekorn is a former lawyer turned career confidence coach. After a stint in higher education, she decided to pursue a certification in professional coaching with iPEC. Specifically, Emily now helps lawyers and other ambitious professionals navigate their careers, develop as conscious leaders, and integrate work and life for faster success and greater fulfillment.


    In this episode, we discuss:


    Emily followed her long-standing interest in psychology into coaching

    Emily wanted more control over her work and life, and realized self-employment was the best route for her


    The progression from thinking about a big jump to committing to it

    It’s possible to start while you’re still employed and before you’re fully “ready”

    Get clear on what your bottom line, sufficient income number is

    The early entrepreneurial experience


     


    You can find Emily at:


    Accessible Coaching Campaign: https://www.hirsekorncoaching.com/accessible-coaching


     


    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilyhirsekorn/


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    Connect with Megan!


     


    Private Podcast Waitlist: https://view.flodesk.com/pages/6192f9743a0e5bcf6f54234d


     


    Schedule a Catalyst Call: https://bit.ly/yourcatalystcall


     


    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/megansmileyesq/

    • 50 min
    Seth Bradley leaves big law to pursue his passion for real estate

    Seth Bradley leaves big law to pursue his passion for real estate

    Seth Bradley is a former big law attorney who decided to follow his passion for real estate and create his own unique career path. He started his own firm, Bradley Law Limited, where he helps his clients with their real estate and asset protection needs. He has also become a real estate entrepreneur and an expert at creating passive income. Seth is also the host of the Passive Income Attorney Podcast, educating attorneys and other professionals on how to stop trading their time for money so that they can practice when they want to, not because they have to.


    Seth talks to us about his evolution from medical school student to big law associate to independent law firm owner and entrepreneur. His story really shows how you can design a multi-faceted career around your interests if you have the courage to go for it.


     


    You can find Seth at:


    Free Gift - The Freedom Blueprint: https://sethpaulbradley.lpages.co/freedomblueprint/


    Passive Income Attorney Website: https://passiveincomeattorney.com/


    LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/sethpaulbradley


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    Connect with Megan!


    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/megansmileyesq/


    Lawyer’s Escape Call: http://bit.ly/escapecall


    Lawyer’s Escape Plan Quiz: http://bit.ly/lawyersescaperoutequiz

    • 32 min
    Morgan Thomas Hall transitions from law to tech sales

    Morgan Thomas Hall transitions from law to tech sales

    Morgan Thomas Hall is an Account Executive at Twilio Inc. Morgan practiced in both a firm and for the government before realizing that it wasn’t just a job problem, it was a career problem. She went back to the drawing board to explore her interests, and found herself drawn to tech, and then specifically to tech sales. In addition to her day job, Morgan now also helps people transition from other careers into the tech industry.


    In this episode, we discuss:


    Morgan had both firm and governmental jobs

    She considered trying to become a judge

    After giving it every possible shot, she accepted that it wasn’t just a job problem, it was a career problem

    Morgan initially considered some JD-preferred jobs as an obvious next step, but quickly realized that none of those appealed to her

    Morgan went back to the drawing board thinking about her interests

    She felt drawn to technology and the start-up world, particularly because of how different the mentality is to the legal world

    Morgan was worried her family would be disappointed, but also knew she had to make a change - she’s the one who has to live her life

    She told anyone who would listen that she was looking to get into tech, leading to connections and information

    Morgan kept coming back to tech sales, which leveraged transferable skills and checked a lot of boxes for her

    She had confidence in her capacity to learn because she was both committed and interested

    She found a way to effectively communicate her unique story as a positive to potential employers

    You will be your biggest hindrance, so learn to get out of your own way


     


    You can find Morgan on…


    https://www.linkedin.com/in/morganlthomas/


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    Connect with Megan!


    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/megansmileyesq/


    Lawyer’s Escape Call: http://bit.ly/escapecall


    Lawyer’s Escape Plan Quiz: http://bit.ly/lawyersescaperoutequiz


     

    • 39 min
    Marie Sotelo leaves law for freelance writing

    Marie Sotelo leaves law for freelance writing

    Marie Sotelo is a former lawyer turned freelance writer. After leaving the law, she leveraged her legal experience to become a go-to ghostwriter for entrepreneurs and chief executives in the law, compliance, and risk management space. She firmly believes that money is a means to an end—lifestyle freedom; and that you really CAN do anything with a law degree. She now helps other freelancers make smart money moves in their business and teaches other lawyers how to launch a writing side hustle.  


    In this episode, we discuss:


    Marie had been hoping to do environmental law in some capacity, but that didn’t pan out

    She ended up at the Customs & Border Protection Agency for a decade

    Working within such an entrenched bureaucracy eventually got too stifling 

    She developed anxiety and depression (it’s not just big law that can impact you in that way)

    Her family moved and she decided to take time off to focus on raising her son 

    She got into part-time freelance grant writing, testing it first with some volunteer jobs

    Marie worried about finances and wanted to do something that could sustain her family, if needed, but also be flexible 

    She transitioned to content writing for law firms 

    Freelance writing is a great thing to experiment with on the side, and build up some extra funds

    She’s built a life and career around her values and priorities


     


    You can find Marie on…


    https://www.facebook.com/groups/woolies 


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    Connect with Megan!


    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/megansmileyesq/


    Lawyer’s Escape Call: http://bit.ly/escapecall


    Lawyer’s Escape Plan Quiz: http://bit.ly/lawyersescaperoutequiz

    • 45 min
    Heather Eastwood leaves practice to teach high school

    Heather Eastwood leaves practice to teach high school

    Heather Eastwood is a public interest lawyer (with a brief detour into BigLaw) who found her long-term calling teaching public high school. 


    In today’s episode, we discuss:


    Heather came out of college feeling adrift without a clear path to follow

    She went to law school somewhat on a whim, because it was at least an extension of learning

    Heather ended up working for legal aid in Hawaii

    Her best professional experience was based on a highly collaborative environment

    Heather decided to move to the Bay Area and ended up having to take a firm job 

    She felt deeply misaligned doing big corporate work

    Heather quit from her honeymoon

    She went back to the core of what she enjoyed in previous roles and her core values

    Heather decided to teach high school, and has been happily doing it for a decade

    The best piece of advice she ever got was “you are never stuck; you always have choices”


     


    Connect with Megan!


    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/megansmileyesq/


    Lawyer’s Escape Call: http://bit.ly/escapecall


    Lawyer’s Escape Plan Quiz: http://bit.ly/lawyersescaperoutequiz

    • 39 min
    Rachel Coll leaves practice to become a life coach

    Rachel Coll leaves practice to become a life coach

    Rachel Coll is a lawyer turned life coach. Although Rachel actually largely enjoyed practicing, she allowed herself to evolve and follow the threads that interested her. She ultimately felt called to get into coaching. It did require pushing through some discomfort and external judgment around the decision, but she has now built a successful full-time practice.


    In this episode we discuss:


    Rachel largely enjoyed her practice first as a public prosecutor, then at the Board of Elections 

    Rachel came to a place in her personal life where she hired a life coach, and that ended up changing her trajectory 

    Rachel became a certified life coach on the side 

    She didn’t leave law because she didn’t enjoy practice, but because she felt drawn more strongly to something else

    Although other people warned her otherwise, she always felt she could go back to law after coaching

    Rachel’s practice has evolved from relationship coaching for lawyers to more general practice around embracing your full self and owning it

    You don’t have to have a huge problem or official diagnosis to justify getting help

    Trust if you’re called to something that it’s worth pursuing


     


    Connect with Megan!


    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/megansmileyesq/


    Lawyer’s Escape Call: http://bit.ly/escapecall


    Lawyer’s Escape Plan Quiz: http://bit.ly/lawyersescaperoutequiz


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    You can find Rachel on…


    https://www.rachelcollcoaching.com/


    https://www.linkedin.com/company/rachel-coll-coaching/about/


    https://www.instagram.com/rachelelizabethcoll/


     

    • 46 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
23 Ratings

23 Ratings

Hankers80 ,

Very inspiring

If you are an attorney who is questioning your career choice this is a great place to start your journey. Highly engaging and very informative.

Ellahoops ,

Great podcast for anyone facing a career crossroads!

Great podcast for anyone facing a career crossroads!

elJefebk ,

Looking forward to more!

Great job on the Intro pod! Really looking forward to the next episodes. I think it’s a great subject matter and will translate to lots of other people/professionals.

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