Clinical Conversations Royal College of Physicians of Edinburgh

In this episode, Dr Kat Ralston chats with Dr Emma Phillips about clinical debriefing.
They talk about what clinical debriefing is (and isn’t) and why we should be incorporating this into our everyday work. They explore when and how to facilitate a clinical debrief and share tips on how we can embed clinical debriefing into our practice.

Dr Phillips is an Anaesthetic Registrar working in South-East Scotland. She completed a simulation fellowship at Scottish Simulation Center in 2018 and maintains active role in simulation based education. Dr Phillips completed a Master's in 2022 with a dissertation examining attributes and evidence for use of clinical debriefing tools. She has also published and presented on a number of topics including non-technical skills in simulation, clinical debriefing, educational innovations and airway management.

Dr Kat Ralston is a Geriatric Medicine Registrar and member of the RCPE Trainees and Members’ Committee, currently working in Edinburgh.

-- Useful Links --
Kolbe M, Schmutz S, Seelandt J C, Eppich W J, Schmutz J B. Team debriefings in healthcare: aligning intention and impact BMJ 2021; 374 :n2042 - https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.n2042
Phillips EC, Smith SE, Tallentire V, et al. Systematic review of clinical debriefing tools: attributes and evidence for use BMJ Quality & Safety Published Online First: 28 March 2023. - https://doi.org/10.1136/bmjqs-2022-015464
Petrosoniak A, Gabriel J, Purdy E. Stop asking if it works, start making it happen: exploring barriers to clinical event debriefing in the ED. CJEM. 2022;24(7):673-674. - https://doi.org/10.1007/s43678-022-00396-9
Walker CA, McGregor L, Taylor C, Robinson S. STOP5: a hot debrief model for resuscitation cases in the emergency department. Clin Exp Emerg Med. 2020;7(4):259-266. - https://doi.org/10.15441/ceem.19.086
Wolfe et al. (2014) Interdisciplinary ICU Cardiac Arrest Debriefing Improves Survival Outcomes - https://doi.org/10.1097/CCM.0000000000000327
Rose & Cheng (2018) Charge nurse facilitated clinical debriefing in the emergency department - https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/canadian-journal-of-emergency-medicine/article/charge-nurse-facilitated-clinical-debriefing-in-the-emergency-department/CC224433937ACBA849491A66EBC9593D
Ralston et al. (2024) Overcoming barriers to clinical event debriefing through simulation - https://doi.org/10.1111/medu.15359

Recording Date: 16 February 2024

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In this episode, released to coincide with World TB Day 2024, Dr Ben Warner discusses pulmonary tuberculosis (TB) with Dr David Connell.

Dr David Connell first explains his personal interest in TB. They then discuss pulmonary TB in depth, including: epidemiology; pathogenesis, immune response, and transmission (a 'lymphatic disease with respiratory spread'); how TB presents and differential diagnoses; latent TB infection and reactivation; and management including the importance of the multidisciplinary team (MDT) and the role of public health in contact tracing and the end goal of elimination.

Dr David Connell completed higher specialist training in Respiratory and General Internal Medicine in North-West London including at St.Mary’s Hospital, where he completed a PhD in the immunology of Tuberculosis, before becoming a Consultant at Ninewells Hospital in 2017 where he has a specialist interest in Complex Pulmonary Infections and TB. He is Co-Chair of the Scottish Health Protection Tuberculosis Network and is a Clinical Service Advisor to the BTS MDR-TB Advice Service.

Dr Ben Warner is a Respiratory Medicine Specialty Registrar with clinical and academic experience of global public health, having completed the LSHTM’s East African Diploma in Tropical Medicine and then worked for 18 months in rural South Africa, where he encountered the sharp end of the global TB pandemic. He is currently undertaking a PhD in multimorbidity in Malawi as part of the Wellcome-funded Multimorbidity PhD Programme for Health Professionals fellow with the University of Glasgow.

Recording date: 1 March 2024

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This week Dr Marilena Giannoudi focuses on the topic of Frailty with Dr Sean Ninan. They discuss recognising frailty, the different ways to measure the severity of frailty and the importance of adapting treatment for frail patients.

Dr Sean Ninan is a Consultant Geriatrician and Clinical Lead for Dementia and Delirium at Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust. Dr Ninan is also Course Director of Leeds Frailty Education.

Dr Marilena Giannoudi is a cardiology registrar based in Leeds. She is Co-Chair of the Trainees and Members’ Committee, a Fellow of the Higher Education Academy, and is currently undertaking a PhD.

Recording Date: 04 December 2023

-- Useful Links --
CGA Toolkit - https://www.cgakit.com/frailty
CGA in Primary Care Settings - https://www.bgs.org.uk/cgatoolkit
GIRFT Geriatric Medicine
- https://gettingitrightfirsttime.co.uk/medical_specialties/geriatric-medicine/
Rapid Delirium Test - https://www.the4at.com
Clinical Frailty Scale - https://www.dal.ca/sites/gmr/our-tools/clinical-frailty-scale.html

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This week, Dr Kat Ralston takes a fresh look at the geriatric giants with Dr Clare Bostock. They explore frailty syndromes using the “5M’s” approach (matters most, mind, mobility, medications, and multi-complexity) and discuss the importance of a detective mindset to make the diagnosis. They share practical tips on the assessment and management of patients with frailty at the front door.

Clare Bostock is a consultant geriatrician at NHS Grampian. Her areas of special interest include acute assessment, polypharmacy, falls, and quality improvement. She works in the geriatric assessment unit at Aberdeen Royal Infirmary. The geriatric medicine team at ARI started daily reviews of older people with frailty in the Acute Medical Admissions area in July 2022. She spent nearly 3 years working in the hospital at home team alongside acute work at ARI, and now works in ARI and at an intermediate care facility at Rosewell House.

Dr Kat Ralston is a Geriatric Medicine Registrar and member of the RCPE Trainees and Members’ Committee, currently working in Edinburgh.

--Useful Links--

Managing multiple medicines- https://rightdecisions.scot.nhs.uk/polypharmacy-guidance/
British Geriatrics Society Frailty module - https://www.bgs.org.uk/elearning/2023-frailty-identification-and-interventions
Clinical Frailty Scale - https://www.bgs.org.uk/sites/default/files/content/attachment/2018-07-05/rockwood_cfs.pdf
Think Delirium Toolkit-https://learn.nes.nhs.scot/2442/rrheal/education-networks/rural-teams-education-network/think-delirium-improving-the-care-for-older-people-delirium-toolkit
The Geriatric 5M’s - https://agsjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jgs.14979
Silver Book II – Geriatric Syndromes (British Geriatrics Society) - https://www.bgs.org.uk/resources/silver-book-ii-geriatric-syndromes
ACB Calculator - https://www.acbcalc.com/
Managing Multiple Medicines: Anticholinergics Recommendations - https://rightdecisions.scot.nhs.uk/polypharmacy-guidance/hot-topics/anticholinergics/
Top Tips for Clinical Frailty Scale - https://www.dal.ca/sites/gmr/our-tools/clinical-frailty-scale/cfs-guidance.html

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In this episode, Dr Kat Ralston talks to Dr Sam Hopkins about growth mindset. They talk about what growth and fixed mindsets are, and why thinking about your mindset is critical to successful learning and development as doctors. They discuss practical tips on ways to influence your mindset and the mindset of others around you, including effective ways to seek and give feedback and the power of role-modelling that failure is not only normal but an essential part of growth as a doctor.

Sam Hopkins is a Specialty Trainee in Medical Oncology at the Edinburgh Cancer Centre and a Senior Medical Education Fellow for the Medical Education Directorate, NHS Lothian. She is also an Honorary Clinical Fellow at the University of Edinburgh.
Her research interests are growth mindset, specifically how to increase trainee adoption of a growth mindset in the clinical learning environment, and innovative simulation methodology, such as her novel table top simulation board game.
She is Canadian of origin and her passions include cooking, positive psychology and yoga.

Dr Kat Ralston is a Geriatric Medicine Registrar and member of the RCPE Trainees and Members’ Committee, currently working in Edinburgh.

-- Useful Links --
Carol Dweck TED talk "Developing a Growth Mindset" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiiEeMN7vbQ
Hopkins SR, Rae VI, Smith SE, Meldrum S, Tallentire VR. From safety net to trampoline: elevating learning with growth mindset in healthcare simulation. Advances in Simulation. 2023 Nov 10;8(1):26. - https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s41077-023-00264-1
Hopkins SR, Rae VI, Smith SE, Mutch CP, Oliver N, Tallentire VR. Growing a growth mindset: a tabletop simulation board game. International Journal of Healthcare Simulation. 2023 Jul 10(null):1-3. - https://www.ijohs.com/article/doi/10.54531/cjfe6207?q=
Dweck CS, Leggett EL. A social-cognitive approach to motivation and personality. Psychological review. 1988 Apr;95(2):256. - https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1988-29536-001
Yeager DS, Dweck CS. What can be learned from growth mindset controversies?. American psychologist. 2020 Dec;75(9):1269. - https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2020-99903-019
Wolcott MD, McLaughlin JE, Hann A, Miklavec A, Beck Dallaghan GL, Rhoney DH, Zomorodi M. A review to characterise and map the growth mindset theory in health professions education. Medical Education. 2021 Apr;55(4):430-40. - https://asmepublications.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/medu.14381

Recording date: 23 November 2023

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In this brief episode, Dr Marilena Giannoudi, Co-Chair of the Trainees and Members’ Committee, gives an overview of the Royal College of Physicians of Edinburgh's podcasts relevant to doctors-in-training. These include: this podcast, 'Clinical Conversations'; 'Career Conversations' including the new 'Demystifying PACES' series; and the Recently Appointed Consultants' Committee's podcast, 'Consultant Conversations', relevant to senior trainees.

All RCPE podcasts can be found at https://podcasts.rcpe.ac.uk/

The 'Demystifying PACES' podcast series can be found at https://podcasts.rcpe.ac.uk/show/career-conversations/category/paces/

Recording date: 23 January 2024

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