33 episodes

Break Down. Wake Up. is about discovering the world changing wisdom within our distress. I’m Meg Mateer, a psychology nerd turned business consultant and entrepreneur. Join me to hear from leaders about when things in their lives were breaking down and to listen for the wisdom waking up. Along the way, we’ll explore fresh perspectives like (1) how distress is a driver of success, not a barrier to it, (2) how our personal and professional lives are inherently connected and (3) how our individual experiences can help solve broader societal challenges. When things are breaking down, important wisdom is waking up.

Break Down. Wake Up‪.‬ Meg Mateer

    • Society & Culture
    • 4.9 • 15 Ratings

Break Down. Wake Up. is about discovering the world changing wisdom within our distress. I’m Meg Mateer, a psychology nerd turned business consultant and entrepreneur. Join me to hear from leaders about when things in their lives were breaking down and to listen for the wisdom waking up. Along the way, we’ll explore fresh perspectives like (1) how distress is a driver of success, not a barrier to it, (2) how our personal and professional lives are inherently connected and (3) how our individual experiences can help solve broader societal challenges. When things are breaking down, important wisdom is waking up.

    Special Episode! The Wisdom in Our Distress: Meg Mateer at Brainwash Festival

    Special Episode! The Wisdom in Our Distress: Meg Mateer at Brainwash Festival

    Many of us were taught to hide our difficult experiences and emotions because it would indicate that we’re crazy, unsuccessful or broken. But what if, instead, these feelings are wakeup calls for positive change? In this talk , you’ll hear from Meg Mateer who shares stories from leaders who have embraced difficult feelings, grief, mental health challenges, addictions, and other forms of distress and used it to positively transform their lives. You’ll also learn about groundbreaking research that asks us to rethink how we relate to our distress. Finally, you’ll discover why distress is not only important for individual healing, but as a key to help solve our biggest societal challenges. 

    Meg Mateer is an organizational psychologist and consultant at the intersection of leadership and social impact. She is a teacher and coach at The School of Life, a social impact consultant at Better Future, the host of the “Break Down. Wake Up.” podcast and the founder of Empatiko. Meg’s approach is informed by more than 14 years of experience in business strategy, change management, psychology, and learning design and lessons from two of her biggest teachers, her anxiety and depression. She is dedicated to the power of diversity and passionate about creating contexts and tools for mutual learning and group transformation.

    • 37 min
    032 - FINAL EPISODE SEASON 1 Break Down. Wake Up. podcast :)

    032 - FINAL EPISODE SEASON 1 Break Down. Wake Up. podcast :)

    Season 1 of the Break Down. Wake Up. podcast is officially complete!

    In this episode, I take a look back on the last 31 episodes and give you a broad overview of what we've covered in this season.

    You'll also hear my personal story about how this project was born (hint: it has to do with my own breakdowns) and how global disruption actually helped put the project into the world.

    At the end of the episode, you'll get a perspective-shifting frame that will help you begin to see the wisdom within your own distress.

    If you haven't done so already, I highly encourage you to go back to episodes you haven't yet heard and tune into ones that may not initially attract your attention. Every episode is an incredibly powerful story that is packed with lessons coming from people who've lived them.

    If you like what you've heard and want to be part of our podcast community, participate in special events, or discover the wisdom waking up in your own breakdown, check out our website at www.breakdownwakeup.com.     
    Please help us out by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or sharing your favorite episode on social media to make sure that these stories reach the people waiting to hear them. 
    Learn how to transform your distress into wisdom for personal growth and social impact in our Breaking Down is Wisdom Waking Up live group online program: www.breakdownwakeup.com/programs

    • 36 min
    031 - SOLO EPISODE - Sharing insights from the last 9 episodes

    031 - SOLO EPISODE - Sharing insights from the last 9 episodes

    How can our distress inspire activism, career shifts, and new businesses?  
    In the latest episode, I highlight some of the biggest insights that have been inspired from the last 9 episodes. I also share my perspective on how these themes can help us solve personal, professional, and broader collective challenges.

    In the last nine episodes I interviewed a world famous thought leader, a serial entrepreneur, a psychology researcher, and a wellness and diversity equity and inclusion advocate who shared a range of break down wake up stories, from pregnancy discrimination to family separation, and from dissociation to feeling disillusioned about institutions and careers.

    In my reflection, I note some of the broader perspectives that arise from these stories. For example, I touch on the importance of paying attention to our breakdowns in order not only to listen for the wisdom waking up in ourselves, but to find wisdom that can shift organizations and societies.

    I also highlight some of the frames that I introduce in the four solo episodes - episodes specifically designed to help you discover the wisdom within your own distress.

    If you like what you've heard and want to be part of our podcast community, participate in special events, or discover the wisdom waking up in your own breakdown, check out our website at www.breakdownwakeup.com.     
    Please help us out by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or sharing your favorite episode on social media to make sure that these stories reach the people waiting to hear them. 
    Learn how to transform your distress into wisdom for personal growth and social impact in our Breaking Down is Wisdom Waking Up live group online program: www.breakdownwakeup.com/programs
    The Break Down. Wake Up. Season 1 podcast is sponsored by JAEC Foundation: Rethinking Mental Health.

    • 17 min
    030 - Speaking outside of the checkboxes with Nora Bateson

    030 - Speaking outside of the checkboxes with Nora Bateson

    How involuntary family separation during her international migration awakened a complexity systems thinker to the illusion of safety in institutions and an even deeper need for people to listen to and understand context

    Nora Bateson has been working in complexity systems thinking for almost her entire career - focused on helping people and organizations contextualize complexity in order to solve challenging problems. 
    So when she experienced the negative limitations of institutions that focused solely on procedure and stripped context from a decision making process, she knew she had to tell her story. In this episode she speaks up, not just for her family, but also for so many immigrant families whose experiences are absent from the polarized public dialogue that no doubt has significant influence over politics, policy and procedure. 
    After moving to Sweden for love, Nora found herself and her family in an incredibly tragic and frustrating institutional process that denied her daughter entry into the country where her family resided because of her age, a number on a checkbox on the form to enter the country. 
    As Nora mentions, this conversation is about much more than just her own experience. It's about identity politics, about who has the right to call a place "home", about empathy that stretches across socio-economic and national identity categories, about losing faith in a system that you thought was designed to support you, about the deep sadness of not being able to have the context of your situation heard in the midst of a life altering decision, 
    In this episode, we explore the negative impact of objectivity and taking things out of context on polarization and reductionist thinking, our deep need to be seen not just as one identity or category but in our whole complex selves, and the importance of not only understanding the broader narratives surrounding an experience but the history of those narratives in shaping the stories we collectively create about that experience. 
    You can find out more about Nora and her work by visiting www.batesoninstitute.org. 
    If you like what you've heard and want to be part of our podcast community, participate in special events, or discover the wisdom waking up in your own breakdown, check out our website at www.breakdownwakeup.com.     
    Please help us out by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or sharing your favorite episode on social media to make sure that these stories reach the people waiting to hear them. 
    Check out and apply for our upcoming program designed to help you transform your distress into wisdom for personal growth and social impact: www.breakdownwakeup.com/programs  

    The Break Down. Wake Up. Season 1 podcast is sponsored by JAEC Foundation: Rethinking Mental Health.

    • 1 hr 10 min
    029 - Liberating students from a colonized system of education with Miriam Freed

    029 - Liberating students from a colonized system of education with Miriam Freed

    How her own professional struggle led an education leader to understand the link between trauma, learning and social injustice in the classroom. 
    Miriam Rachel Freed spent the early part of her career working in education for underserved communities. She had tons of new ideas about how education could be reformed, but felt that none of it was being met with enthusiasm. She became the black sheep of the school system. 
    On a personal journey, she reconnected with her own experience as a student, remembering what effect trauma had on her own life at that time. Even in her socioeconomically privileged position, and despite outward indications of success (good grades, large group of friends, well liked), Miriam remembers a lot of suffering - depression, anxiety and  self harm to get away from internal pain from her past. But she realized that these struggles in her teenage years were waking her up to her own needs for support and a safe space to connect with herself and her own truth. 
    She observed the impact that trauma had on learning and that no amount of teaching tricks, tools, or materials could supplement that deeper call to look within. She could see what her students needed, but had no power to change the structure that was not serving them. 
    Although she worked within a system that conflicted with her own values and vision for education, she knew that coloring too far outside of the lines could risk her students performing poorly on tests that could determine their future. She was conflicted, internally and externally, about what to do and how best she could make an impact. So she took the leap to leave this system and started doing justice work from the outside in. 
    Now, in a time where many are speaking about the need for social justice work in many institutions, Miriam boldly notes that we must address trauma that results from injustice in order to address injustice itself. 
    In this episode, we explore the deeper emotional layer that needs to be addressed if we are going to do social justice work, the importance of bringing ethics into education in our classrooms, and the struggle of working within a system that neither fits your values nor responds to the need for reform. 
    If you would like to learn more about Miriam, check out her website here: https://miriamrachaelfreed.com/ 
    If you like what you've heard and want to be part of our podcast community, participate in special events, or discover the wisdom waking up in your own breakdown, check out our website at www.breakdownwakeup.com.     
    If you would like to help us out, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or share your favorite episode on social media to make sure that these stories reach the people waiting to hear them. 
    Check out and apply for our upcoming program designed to help you transform your distress into wisdom for personal growth and social impact: www.breakdownwakeup.com/programs  

    The Break Down. Wake Up. Season 1 podcast is sponsored by JAEC Foundation: Rethinking Mental Health.

    • 54 min
    028 - Breaking down is wisdom waking up group program - Solo Episode!

    028 - Breaking down is wisdom waking up group program - Solo Episode!

    How can we use our distress as a catalyst to personal and professional growth?
    In this episode, you'll hear about the online group program where you can discover the wisdom within your distress and use it for sustainable insight and lasting transformation.
    I started this program because
    I realized that denying, suppressing and shoving down my pain was not workingI discovered that my distress could be a source of wisdom if I listened to itI saw that I was not alone - unconventional indeed - but not the only person to feel this way. Many great thinkers, philosophers, spiritual leaders, saw pain and distress as the pathway to wholenessI want to help you learn the tools and methods that I use with my clients and with myself to find wisdom in pain and use it for personal growth and global impact. This program is for you if: 
    You are a curious, courageous, slightly rebellious, maverick leader who is ready to transform your distress into wisdom for personal and professional growthYou're in the midst of distress (anxiety, stress, frustration, anger, confusion, stuck, existential questions, self doubt, imposter syndrome etc.!) now and want to find deeper insights and answers within this experienceYou, like me, have tried all of the typical approaches to get relief from your distress and nothing seems to workYou're starting a new project, job, or stepping into a new phase of life (trust me, these are critical times for distress to arise and I want you to get the wisdom from these feelings rather than being stuck!)You have a period of distress in your past that you want to explore the deeper meaning and how it has influenced how you operate todayHere's why this program is unique: 
    The philosophy and approach to distress is UNconventional and challenges the status quo meaning and significance of distressWe use a discovery based approach to transformation - if you want to learn more about this and how it's different than a control based approach, check out Episode 25 of the podcast.  The program approaches deep material in a light hearted and humorous way, making it easier for you to explore yourself and connect with othersReady to join?  Here's how you can
    Apply now by scheduling a 30 min exploration call with me and we'll see if there is a mutual fit!Want more info? Head to the program page of the website here: www.breakdownwakeup.com/programsThe Break Down. Wake Up. Season 1 podcast is sponsored by JAEC Foundation: Rethinking Mental Health.

    • 17 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
15 Ratings

15 Ratings

Oryxc ,

Love this show!

Meg Mateer delivers a thoughtful and much needed approach, as there is so much to learn from our "break down" experiences. I believe this is a must listen podcast.

Betty Stewart ,

Great series!

Really enjoying this series. I don’t usually write reviews but the recent episode on self healing with Debbie Knowlton inspired me to share my feedback. Well done and all the best with future programming.

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