142 episodes

True stories and conversations with survivors, advocates and experts on the insidious cult of Multi Level Marketing, where through compassionate, educational, informal chats, we work to end the stigma of "failure", in an industry systematically designed for you to fail. Hosted by Roberta Blevins.


Life After MLM is a part of True Native Media. Visit https://truenativemedia.com for more.

Life After MLM Roberta Blevins

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True stories and conversations with survivors, advocates and experts on the insidious cult of Multi Level Marketing, where through compassionate, educational, informal chats, we work to end the stigma of "failure", in an industry systematically designed for you to fail. Hosted by Roberta Blevins.


Life After MLM is a part of True Native Media. Visit https://truenativemedia.com for more.

Listen on Apple Podcasts
Requires macOS 11.4 or higher

    Episode 141 : Sarah Edmondson

    Episode 141 : Sarah Edmondson

    Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!
    Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic! Day 1 is the always lovely, spunky and badass Sarah Edmondson. You may know her from her work on HBO's The Vow, her book Scarred, or her podcast she produces with her husband Nippy, A Little Bit Culty. If you haven't heard Sarah or her story, buckle up! From her early beginnings in MLM to her takedown of the dangerous cult NXIVM, she's a force to be reckoned with.
    Sarah on IG - https://www.instagram.com/sarahedmondson/
    A Little Bit Culty IG - https://www.instagram.com/alittlebitculty/
    A Little Bit Culty Podcast - https://alittlebitculty.com/
    HBO's The Vow - https://amzn.to/3ijHZOX
    Double Bind - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_bind
    Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
    Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
    Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
    Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
    How can you help?
    Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
    Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
    You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
    Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
    Support the Podcast!
    Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevins
    Buy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
    Follow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa
    Follow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/
    Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast
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    • 1 hr 4 min
    Episode 140 - #IGotOut Part 1

    Episode 140 - #IGotOut Part 1

    This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, throughout the month of November, follow along with us as we share education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Each episode this month will include stories of cult survival, including the abuses described in Dr Steven Hassan's BITE Model. This episode in particular deals with covert abuse, along with a variety of triggering subject matter. Please use discretion when listening.

    All month we asked for your #igotout stories and boy did you deliver! From comment threads on Instagram and TikTok to the emails, and messages you sent us, I invited Danielle of From Huns to Humans to come help me tell them all! They teamed up with us this year as well to bring you even more cult focused content, and I wanted to invite them on the show to share their experiences and conversations too. Thank you to everyone who contributed to this episode, your stories will help so many.
    Show Notes
    From Huns to Humans I Got Out Part 2 - Coming Soon!!
    From Huns to Humans Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/from-huns-to-humans/id1585142247
    IGotOut - https://www.igotout.org/
    Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
    Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
    Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
    Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
    How can you help?
    Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
    Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
    You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
    Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
    Support the Podcast!
    Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevins
    Buy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
    Follow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa
    Follow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/
    Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast
    *Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.
    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    • 1 hr 9 min
    Episode 139 : Gerette Buglion

    Episode 139 : Gerette Buglion

    This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, throughout the month of November, follow along with us as we share education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Each episode this month will include stories of cult survival, including the abuses described in Dr Steven Hassan's BITE Model. This episode in particular deals with covert abuse, along with a variety of triggering subject matter. Please use discretion when listening.

    Have an MLM CULT STORY to share? Email me! | Send a voice message! | Submit ANON These stories will be used in anthology episodes for Commercial Cult Awareness Month with IGotOut.org!
    Gerette Buglion spent over 18 years in a cult that manipulated her dreams and kept her stuck in an endless chain of enlightenment masquerading as a cult. Since leaving her everyday cult, she's written a book about her experiences, helped found a movement, changed countless lives and encourages other cult survivors to embrace their story, by using an incredibly powerful tool, the written word.
    Want to take one of Gerette's classes? Join the FREE Writing to Reckon for MLM Survivors here!! Dec 4th, 2022 @ 5pm EST.
    Show Notes:
    Gerette's website - https://www.gerettebuglion.com/
    IGotOut - https://www.igotout.org/
    An Everyday Cult by Gerette Buglion - https://amzn.to/3AKGcJ0
    Dr. Dan Siegel - https://drdansiegel.com/
    Lisa from IGotOut on From Huns to Humans - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-93-i-got-out-lisa/id1585142247?i=1000586691304
    Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
    Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
    Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
    Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
    How can you help?
    Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
    Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
    You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
    Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
    Support the Podcast!
    Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevins
    Buy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
    Follow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa
    Follow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/
    Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast
    *Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.
    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    • 57 min
    Episode 138 : Minisode : Heaven's Gate

    Episode 138 : Minisode : Heaven's Gate

    This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, throughout the month of November, follow along with us as we share education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Each episode this month will include stories of cult survival, including the abuses described in Dr Steven Hassan's BITE Model. This episode in particular deals with covert abuse, along with a variety of triggering subject matter. Please use discretion when listening.

    Have an MLM CULT STORY to share? Email me! | Send a voice message! | Submit ANON These stories will be used in anthology episodes for Commercial Cult Awareness Month with IGotOut.org!
    In 1997 the largest mass suicide on US soil happened as the Hale-Bopp Comet passed over earth. The tragedy was a result of the belief that evil space aliens were holding humans back from reaching their true potential, deeply held by the religious organization Heaven's Gate, founded in 1974 by leaders Ti and Do. One of the earliest members, Sharon Welsh just happened to be the aunt of my friend and fellow podcaster, Leslie Fear. So I asked Leslie if she would come help me tell the story of Heaven's Gate, using her never been told insider perspective.
    Show Notes:
    Follow Leslie on IG - https://www.instagram.com/lesliefear/
    Hale-Bopp, Heaven's Gate and the Largest Mass Suicide on US Soil - https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2022/03/hale-bopp-heavens-gate-and-the-largest-mass-suicide-on-u-s-soil/
    Hale-Bopp Comet - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Hale%E2%80%93Bopp
    Heaven's Gate - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_(religious_group)
    Do's Final Exit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdGXDQ_8bSA
    Student Exit Statements - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHz9it70TdI
    Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
    Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
    Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
    Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
    How can you help?
    Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
    Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
    You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
    Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
    Support the Podcast!
    Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevins
    Buy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
    Follow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa
    Follow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/
    Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast
    *Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.
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    • 1 hr 8 min
    Episode 137 : Spencer Schneider

    Episode 137 : Spencer Schneider

    This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Check out how you can save 10% on your first month of online therapy here.

    This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, throughout the month of November, follow along with us as we share education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Each episode this month will include stories of cult survival, including the abuses described in Dr Steven Hassan's BITE Model. Don't forget to submit your cult stories at outofmlm.info!

    Spencer Schneider spent 23 years of his life in an elite Manhattan secret society, hidden in plain sight, and operating under everyone's noses called "School". The founder, an eccentric washed up actress named Sharon Gans was obsessed with the private lives of her followers, abusing them for her own sick satisfaction. Though not an MLM, the parallels of the two organizations feel dangerously familiar, and Spencer is here to help us expose them.
    Show Notes:
    Spencer's website - https://www.spencer-schneider.com/
    Follow Spencer on IG - https://www.instagram.com/officialspencerschneider/
    Manhattan Cult Story: My Unbelievable True Story of Sex, Crimes, Chaos, and Survival - https://amzn.to/3U2Gr9v
    Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
    Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
    Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
    How can you help?
    Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
    Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
    You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
    Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
    Support the Podcast!
    Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevins
    Buy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
    Follow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa
    Follow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/
    Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast
    *Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.
    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    • 47 min
    Episode 136 : The Amway Tools Cult

    Episode 136 : The Amway Tools Cult

    This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, throughout the month of November, follow along with us as we share education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Each episode this month will include stories of cult survival, including the abuses described in Dr Steven Hassan's BITE Model.

    Everyone knows about Amway, but what about the Tools Cult? It's been mentioned in many Amway episodes, but it's entire weight was largely unknown. So when fan of the show, and American Historian Sean Munger reached out with an episode idea, I was game. And after Paul talked so much about the tools in Britt World Wide, this episode seemed the perfect follow up! If you were ever curious about the cult of the motivational tapes, and the showdown with Amway that ensued, you gotta listen to this episode.
    Show Notes
    Sean's YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/c/SeanMunger
    Sean's Substack - https://seanmungerhistory.substack.com/
    The Tools Cult: History of the Amway Motivational Tape Scam - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9nA3pqSaf8
    Doug Wead - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Wead
    Dexter Yager on 60 Minutes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xwE0VG-H44&list=RDLV9xwE0VG-H44&start_radio=1&t=1237s
    60 Minutes Transcript - http://thefactsabouttheamwayopportunity.blogspot.com/2010/10/amway-on-60-minutes-soap-and-hope.html
    The Postma Memo - https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Amway/postma-memo-1983.pdf
    Amway : The Untold Story - The Tools Scam - https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Amway/AUS/tools.htm
    AmQuix.info Archive - https://web.archive.org/web/20161120060052/http://www.amquix.info/
    Rich DeVos "Directly Speaking" - https://web.archive.org/web/20161118055618/http://www.amquix.info/amway_directly_speaking.html
    Amway Cult Resources - https://freedomofmind.com/group-information-resource/amway/
    Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
    Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
    Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
    How can you help?
    Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
    Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
    You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
    Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
    Support the Podcast!
    Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevins
    Buy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
    Follow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa
    Follow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/
    Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast
    *Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.
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    • 1 hr 25 min

Customer Reviews

4.4 out of 5
734 Ratings

734 Ratings

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Deliciously addictive!!!!

I love this show, very eye-opening and I’ve been in the MLM world and Cultish groups for years and out for years as well… Thank you so much for doing this!!!!

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Stick with MLMs

This podcast was a lot better before it got too broad and doubled down on talking about cults that weren’t associated with MLMs. Hearing others experiences with MLMs was what I listened for but there aren’t enough of those episodes to keep subscribed.

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Why are there ads for Ron Desantis on the latest podcast!

I’m enjoying the interview very much. But twice there have been ads for Ron Desantis (who I detest and did not vote for). How is this happening?

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