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Two bright minds forging two progressive paths in cybersecurity, with a singular commitment to getting cognitive diversity valued as a superpower. We’re Out-of-Band. Welcome

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Two bright minds forging two progressive paths in cybersecurity, with a singular commitment to getting cognitive diversity valued as a superpower. We’re Out-of-Band. Welcome

    Let's talk about Open Source Intelligence (OSINT)

    Let's talk about Open Source Intelligence (OSINT)

    In this episode of Out of Band, we are joined by the one and only - Arno Reuser, the OSINT authority of the Netherlands and abroad, with nearly 30 years of experience within the Dutch military intelligence services (MIVD). With roots as a scientific librarian for the EU Joint Research Center, Arno founded and managed the Open Source Intelligence branch of the Dutch Defense Intelligence and Security Services starting from 1990’s. Arno has won the Lifetime and Golden Candle Award In recognition for his contribution to the Intelligence Community. Need we say more?



    Guest Profile: Arno Reuser 

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/reuser/ 

    Website: https://www.reuser.biz



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    Track: Drive — Markvard [Audio Library Release] 

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    • 56 min
    Let's talk about Insider Risk

    Let's talk about Insider Risk

    🟠 Episode 8 of outofband focuses on Insider Risk - Insider Threat. We are joined by Erik Schneider, Director at Signpost Six and a Subject Matter Expert on the topic. Some of the things we talked about were: What insider risk is all about, Insider risk vs insider threat terminology and how organizations can better protect/detect and mitigate insider risk. We also go into causes of Insider risk (intentional vs unintentional), insider threat indicators and how to recognise them. Finally, we spoke about what skills are valuable for those that want to join this field.

    Guest Profile:

    Erik Schneider

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikschneider1/

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    Track: Drive — Markvard [Audio Library Release]

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    • 49 min
    A day in the life of a Cyber Threat Intelligence Analyst

    A day in the life of a Cyber Threat Intelligence Analyst

    🟠 Curtis Jordan, a Senior Threat Intelligence Analyst, joins us in OutofBand for a discussion on Cyber Threat intelligence. We talk about his extensive career path from robotics, development to Intelligence Analysis and dive into what Intelligence really means to him and how it differs from other specialisations. He shares his day in the life of an analyst, his wins and challenges and how you too can become an analyst!

    Curious for more? Tune In!

    Guest Profile:

    Curtis Jordan

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cjordanjr/

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    Track: Drive — Markvard [Audio Library Release]

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    • 52 min
    Let's talk about Operational Technology (OT) Security

    Let's talk about Operational Technology (OT) Security

    🟠 Our next OutofBand podcast touches on Operational Technology (OT) Security with our OT SMEs - Dominika Rusek and Alex Stavroulakis. Alex and Dominika demystify the buzzwords IT vs OT vs IoT vs IIoT which we hear a lot about in a simplified manner. We focus on OT systems and discuss the challenges faced in securing them, the skills required and how to gain experience in them without having access to the actual gear. Finally, we touch on their perception around diversity in OT Security and what can be done about it. 
    Curious for more? Tune In! 
    -- Guest Profiles -- 
    Dominika Rusek 
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dominikarusek/ 
    Alex Stavroulakis 
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexstavroulakis/
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    — References —
    Here are a couple of resources shared by our guests to get you started. We hope you find them useful.

    A) Reading materials:
    + Industrial Network Security book by E.Knapp - https://www.amazon.com/Industrial-Network-Security-Securing-Infrastructure/dp/0124201148
    + Hacking Exposed Industrial Control Systems by C. Bodungen - https://www.amazon.com/Hacking-Exposed-Industrial-Control-Systems/dp/1259589714
    + ICS reading list by Dragos - https://www.dragos.com/blog/industry-news/a-dragos-industrial-control-system-security-reading-list/

    B) Trainings:
    + Trainings offered by Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency -https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/Training-Available-Through-CISA
    + Trainings offered by SANS:
    GICSP - https://www.giac.org/certifications/global-industrial-cyber-security-professional-gicsp/
    GRID - https://www.sans.org/cyber-security-courses/ics-visibility-detection-response/
    ICS Cybersecurity In-Depth - https://www.sans.org/cyber-security-courses/ics-cyber-security-in-depth/
    + Virtual Training Grounds - https://www.fortiphyd.com/training/
    + OpenPLC project - https://www.openplcproject.com/

    C) Creating your own OT lab:
    + FactoryIO - https://factoryio.com/
    + CLICK Programmable Controllers - https://www.automationdirect.com/adc/overview/catalog/programmable_controllers/click_series_plcs/click_plcs_(stackable_micro_brick)
    + Velocio PLC’s - https://velocio.net/

    D) Example ICS conferences - Defcon ICS Village, s4x22, SANS ICS Security Summits

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    Track: Drive — Markvard [Audio Library Release] 
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    • 50 min
    A day in the life of a Threat Hunter

    A day in the life of a Threat Hunter

    🟠 Our next OutofBand podcast guest is Thomas Bouve, a Threat Hunt Team Lead and hands down one of the best Threat Hunters we have in the field. We delve into the Threat Hunter role, what the focus of Threat Hunting is, why it is important and some of the misconceptions in the field today.
    We also discuss the Importance on casting a wider net and not just narrowing down to a specific threat actor, networking vs endpoint hunting, IOC hunting, hunt outcomes but most importantly - a day in the life! Finally, we touch on Burn out and Mental Health in Threat Hunting and cybersecurity in general.
    Curious for more? Tune In!

    Guest Profile:
    Thomas Bouve
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomasbouve/
    Twitter: @CraHan

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    Track: Drive — Markvard [Audio Library Release]
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    • 57 min
    Data Security: Cryptography

    Data Security: Cryptography

    🟠 In today’s episode, Bentoumia Nour, a highly experienced Security Architect, demystifies Data Security and specifically - cryptography.

    We delve into the concepts behind cryptography: why is cryptography used, why has it’s use increased over time and what are the challenges posed with Quantum computing and etc.

    Curious for more? Tune In!



    Guest Profile:

    Bentoumia Nour

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bentoumia-nour-cissp-cisa-71073647/

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/NBentoumia



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    Track: Drive — Markvard [Audio Library Release]

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    • 41 min

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