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A podcast by 37signals about the better way to work and run your business. The REWORK podcast features the co-founders of 37signals (the makers of Basecamp and HEY), Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson sharing their unique perspective on business and entrepreneurship along with host Kimberly Rhodes.

REWORK 37signals

    • Business
    • 4.7 • 200 Ratings

A podcast by 37signals about the better way to work and run your business. The REWORK podcast features the co-founders of 37signals (the makers of Basecamp and HEY), Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson sharing their unique perspective on business and entrepreneurship along with host Kimberly Rhodes.

    Disagree and Commit

    Disagree and Commit

    "Consensus is cozy, but broad agreement is not our aim. The right decision is. Which is why we take the time to think, debate, persuade, listen and reconsider and then, someone, decides. If you disagree, that’s fine, but once the decision is made, it’s time to commit and support it completely."

    Tune in as Kimberly leads a chat with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founders of 37signals, about the concept of Disagree and Commit. Once a decision is made, everyone should be in 100% — no looking back.


    Key Takeaways:
    01:01 - Breaking down how Disagree and Commit operates

    02:17 - Identifying the most suitable person to make the final decision based on the circumstance

    07:40 - Embracing the "manager of one" concept, empowering individuals to decide independently with reasonable supervision

    09:33 - Acknowledging that delegating decisions doesn't compromise the emphasis on quality

    14:04 - Always keeping the door open to revisit and tweak things

    15:44 - Granting capable individuals the freedom to make mistakes, alongside providing guidance for improvement

    20:35 - Viewing hiring not just as an evaluation of current abilities but also considering potential growth opportunities.

    Links and Resources:
    Jeff Bezos 2016 Letter to Amazon Shareholders
    There’s No Speed Limit by Derek Sivers –  https://sive.rs/kimo 
    Books by 37signals
    Sign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.com
    HEY World | HEY
    The REWORK podcast
    The Rework Podcast on YouTube
    The 37signals Dev Blog
    37signals on YouTube

    • 26 min
    Strangers at a Cocktail Party

    Strangers at a Cocktail Party

    Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, the co-founders of 37signals, dive into their book REWORK and discuss the essay “Strangers at a Cocktail Party” with Rework host, Kimberly Rhodes. From their experience, hiring too many people at once can throw off the balance and continuity of a company's culture. They talk about the importance of gradual assimilation and how culture is implicit, not always written down. They share insights on the value of fresh perspectives and the excitement of facing challenges head-on.


    Key Takeaways:
    00:30 - Gradually integrating new hires is important for upholding an organization's established norms and values.

    02:30 - Company culture is nurtured through the daily interactions and collective experiences shared within an organization.

    05:34 - New hires inject new perspectives and innovative ideas into the mix.

    07:14 - Embracing crises and novel challenges is part of the excitement of running a business.

    12:19 - Reflecting on the hiring patterns at 37signals.

    14:23 - While change is essential for adjusting the company's culture and strategy, it's vital to implement it carefully and minimize disruptions.


    Links and Resources:
    The Half-Life of Facts by Samuel Arbesman
    All About Atlas - Boston Dynamics Robot
    Books by 37signals
    Sign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.com
    HEY World | HEY
    The REWORK podcast
    The Rework Podcast on YouTube
    The 37signals Dev Blog
    37signals on YouTube
    @37signals on X

    • 24 min
    The Wrong Time for Real Time

    The Wrong Time for Real Time

    This episode of REWORK delves into an essay from the book "It Doesn't Have To Be Crazy At Work," co-authored by Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, advocating for the use of asynchronous communication for work projects. During the discussion, they explore the downside of chat and suggest it be reserved for informal discussions and social interactions.

    Key Takeaways:

    00:36 - Different communication methods in the workplace – chat vs. asynchronous

    02:22 - The benefits of centralized communication for project management and how chat can hinder productivity

    09:20 - Managing multiple conversations for a single project

    11:28 - How project management tools reduce the need for frequent meetings, check-ins, and follow-ups

    20:05 - Data retention practices for both formal and informal communication

    Links and Resources:

    Once. com – https://once.com/
    Campfire – https://once.com/campfire
    Books by 37signals – https://37signals.com/books
    Sign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.com
    HEY – https://www.hey.com/
    The REWORK podcast – https://37signals.com/podcast/

    Rework is a production of 37signals. You can find show notes and transcripts on our website. Full video episodes are available on YouTube and X.

    If you have a question for Jason or David about a better way to work and run your business, leave us a voicemail at 708-628-7850 or email, and we might answer it on a future episode.

    • 23 min
    More Than a Month of Once

    More Than a Month of Once

    In this episode of REWORK, host Kimberly Rhodes sits down with the co-founders of 37signals, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, to provide an update on their latest product — Campfire, under the Once umbrella — just about one month after its initial launch. Once introduces a new software paradigm where users pay just once and own it forever, departing from the conventional subscription model. The discussion delves into their pricing strategy, their emphasis on long-term profitability over immediate gains, and offers insights into what lies ahead for Once.
    Key Takeaways:

    00:32 - Initial Reflections: Once, 30 Days In

    02:03 - Setting Benchmarks: Unveiling Novel Concepts for Long-Term Success

    09:58 - Embracing the Journey: Finding Joy in the Process

    13:39 - Looking Forward: The Future Trajectory of Once

    15:53 - Taking Risks: Navigating the Gambles of Product Launches

    23:24 - Pricing Puzzles: Deciphering the Right Value

    Links and Resources:
    Once. com and Campfire
    Books by 37signals
    Sign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.com
    HEY.com
    The REWORK podcast
    The Rework Podcast on YouTube
    The 37signals Dev Blog
    37signals on YouTube
    @37signals on X 

    • 26 min
    How We Work: Finding the Right Team

    How We Work: Finding the Right Team

    37signals is hiring! However, the traditional resume and formal education credentials don’t rank as high as you might think in their hiring process.

    In this episode of The Rework Podcast, host Kimberly Rhodes chats with co-founders of 37signals, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson about reviewing potential job candidates. You’ll hear them discuss why a personalized cover letter can tell a lot more about a potential hire than chronological work history, and why AI isn’t always a dependable author for those details.
    Key Takeaways:
    00:45 - Resumes are basically piles of lies
    02:27 - Cover letters should explain why you want the job
    05:07 - Test driving final candidates
    11:05 - Jason and David’s involvement in the hiring process
    18:59 - Finding employees that are the right cultural fit

    Rework is a production of 37signals. You can find show notes and transcripts on our website. Full video episodes are available on YouTube and X.
    If you have a question for Jason or David about a better way to work and run your business, leave us a voicemail at 708-628-7850 or email rework@37signals.com, and we might answer it on a future episode. 
    Links and Resources:
    Books by 37signals
    Sign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.com
    HEY World | HEY 
    The REWORK podcast
    The Rework Podcast on YouTube
    The 37signals Dev Blog
    37signals on YouTube
    @37signals on X 

    • 26 min
    A New Take on Platform Preferences

    A New Take on Platform Preferences

    David Heinemeier Hansson recently revealed that he's making the switch from Apple to Android and trading in his Mac for a PC. In this week's episode, cofounders of 37signals Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson discuss the shift in direction, the events that led to the change of platform, and what the company was missing by being focused on the Apple ecosystem. 
    Rework is a production of 37signals. You can find show notes and transcripts on our website. Full video episodes are available on YouTube and X.
    If you have a question for Jason or David about a better way to work and run your business, leave us a voicemail at 708-628-7850 or email, and we might answer it on a future episode. 

    Links and Resources:
    From the Apple Newsroom: The App Store, Spotify, and Europe's Thriving Digital Music Market
    Books by 37signals
    Sign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.com
    HEY World | HEY 
    The REWORK podcast
    The Rework Podcast on YouTube
    The 37signals Dev Blog
    37signals on YouTube
    @37signals on X 

    • 26 min

Customer Reviews

4.7 out of 5
200 Ratings

200 Ratings

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Common stuff, uncommon discussions

Great conversations about the common issues every small to medium business deals with but from a viewpoint of innovation, common sense, and, not surpringly, entrepreneurship.

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Succinct and pithy!

This podcast shares breakthrough ways to approach common business and workplace pain points.

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Informative Discussion

Very fun, down to earth, informative discussion. It feels like we are sitting at a wine bar talking about these topics.

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