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The Product-Led Sales Podcast brings together the world's best leaders in sales, GTM ops, customer success, and revenue, to share their insights around closing deals and growing revenue at product-led companies! 🚀

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The Product-Led Sales Podcast brings together the world's best leaders in sales, GTM ops, customer success, and revenue, to share their insights around closing deals and growing revenue at product-led companies! 🚀

    How Framer found success after a massive pivot | Oscar Carlsson, Head of Growth, Framer

    How Framer found success after a massive pivot | Oscar Carlsson, Head of Growth, Framer

    A pivot after Series B. Sounds crazy right?
    When Framer raised its $24M Series B in 2018, it was a design and prototyping tool.
    Think Sketch or Figma.
    Despite building up a good base of users, the team felt that traction was slowing.
    After what must have been many agonizing meetings, the founders and leadership made a bold call. They weren't going to try to iterate the product.
    They were pivoting completely.
    In SaaS it's not common to see a 4-year company pivot. Especially one that raised $33M in total, with dozens of employees. It's even less common to see one do it successfully.
    Yet, today Framer has gone from 0-to-1 once again. They are now a website builder with thousands of customers, including Zapier and Superhuman.
    In this interview with Framer's Head of Growth Oscar Carlsson, he broke down the methodical approach the company took to the pivot:
    - What they did to acquire the first 100 customers, the next 1000, and the 1000s of customers after that
    - How they rebuilt their GTM team into a customer discovery engine
    - What channels and growth initiatives worked at different stages
    With the recent tech correction, we will probably see more growth stage companies considering a pivot. Framer is an example they should look to.


    Check out Framer.com and follow Oscar on Linkedin here. 

    • 35 min
    3 steps 7shifts took to improve activation | Priya Bhatia, Senior Product Manager, Growth at 7shifts

    3 steps 7shifts took to improve activation | Priya Bhatia, Senior Product Manager, Growth at 7shifts

    There's a Chinese saying - the journey of a 1000 miles begins with a single step. For most products, that first step is activation.

    Many PLG companies onboard 10s of thousands of users a month, but only activate 10% or fewer of them.

    In this economic climate - efficiency is more important than ever.

    Failing to activate = wasting money acquiring users.

    Priya Bhatia worked on a project that lifted 7shifts' activation significantly.

    So how did she do it? It comes down to:
    Getting alignment and clarity on the definition of activationSimplifying the onboarding experience by running experiments to remove low-value flowsSurfacing the value that the user has yet to discover, while not overwhelming them with notificationsListen to the episode to find out the details of how she did it, as well as pitfalls she faced along the way!
    Connect with Priya on Linkedin for more PLG insights!

    • 35 min
    3 growth experiments that improved Github’s conversion by 20+% | Thibault Imbert, VP of Marketing and Growth, Github

    3 growth experiments that improved Github’s conversion by 20+% | Thibault Imbert, VP of Marketing and Growth, Github

    In 2020, Github ran a simple 2 week experiment.
    The result? Dramatically more free AND paid signups.
    Sounds too good to be true? Here’s how 👇
    Thibault Imbert leads Growth at Github.
    When he first took over, he looked for somewhere where his team could get a quick win. Something simple but impactful.
    He landed on the pricing page.
    Here are the 3 changes the team made to the pricing page that produced MASSIVE results on conversion:
    1. Visual contrast between tiers. The old pricing page showed the features offered by free and paid tiers. But the number of features looked similar. The growth team changed it so that visually the higher tiers had many more features displayed than the lower tiers.
    2. Emphasizing features that customers cared about. After interviewing customers, the team realized a lot of the features that drove them to upgrade weren’t the emphasized by the pricing page. This was a simple fix.
    3. Making the page prettier. “We used different colors to make the page more vibrant. We also removed one of the tiers that we weren’t even trying to sell anymore. It’s much cleaner now.”

    Connect with Thibault on Linkedin for more PLG insights!

    • 36 min
    How Snyk fashioned a bespoke journey for each of its users | Ethan Schechter, VP of Sales at Snyk

    How Snyk fashioned a bespoke journey for each of its users | Ethan Schechter, VP of Sales at Snyk

    Ethan Schecter joined Snyk when it was just 20-odd employees.
    Today the company employs 1000+ people.
    What’s the secret to the growth? ‘Not treating your PLG funnel as just a lead gen’, says Ethan.
    It is really important that PLG sales teams know which users want to be engaged by what type of outreach.
    Snyk has expertly split its user base into ‘personas’ and each type of user gets a different in-app experience, is shown different types of content, and Sales only touches some of them.
    Listen to this episode to find out how Snyk used this approach to grow its user base rapidly.

    • 26 min
    Growth strategies that took HashiCorp from open source to PLG | Caroline Guo, Head of Growth at HashiCorp

    Growth strategies that took HashiCorp from open source to PLG | Caroline Guo, Head of Growth at HashiCorp

    HashiCorp started as an open-source tool.
    It’s now a $6B public company with PLG, enterprise, and open-source products.
    Caroline Guo, HashiCorp’s Head of Growth, shared with us how HashiCorp built a cutting-edge internal engine for its PLG motion.
    Here are some of the learnings we discussed on the latest episode of the Product Led Sales podcast:
    The data available from open-source products differs from sales-led and product-led products. HashiCorp had to retool it’s approach to data as it moved into PLG.Product and GTM teams in PLG should be goaled against a standardized set of metrics. Listen to the episode to hear Caroline deep dive into the exact metrics HashiCorp cares about at each step of the user journey.How HashiCorp enriches its Salesforce to arm its sellers with product usage data and PQL scores…and much much more in the full episode!

    • 33 min
    How Netlify built its PQL engine with data | Drew Teller & Visakan Jayakumar, Growth at Netlify

    How Netlify built its PQL engine with data | Drew Teller & Visakan Jayakumar, Growth at Netlify

    When it comes to PLG, Drew and Visakan are pros.
    And they work on a product used by 2 million developers. 2 million. 
    We spoke to them about Netlify's open source beginnings, how they think about Product Qualified Leads, and more in this episode of the podcast. 
    One MUST LISTEN part of the podcast is when Drew and Visakan went really deep into how they kickstarted their system for identifying PQLs.
    From building out the initial list of product signals to look out for, to deciding how to work together across growth, sales, marketing, and data teams. 
    There are a lot of articles about PQLs out there.
    There aren't very many operators going really step by step into how they did it. 
    Listen to this episode and you can actually bring Drew and Visakan's learnings to your own product tomorrow.

    • 33 min

Customer Reviews

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19 Ratings

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A Favorite!

The Product-Led Sales Podcast has quickly become a favorite in my feed! I'm consistently impressed by the engaging conversations, insightful content, and actionable ideas. I truly learn something every time I listen!

superoldgranny ,

Essential For PLG folks

There’s some much fluff content in PLG but this was actually useful

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Thoughtful

As a young post-grad starting out in tech and the product world, I found this really thoughtful and interesting. Might even say inspiring. Very digestible information as well— usually hate podcasts I can’t follow well but that wasn’t the case with this one.

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