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This week Jepson has his friend Jordan Morrow, who have known each other for a while now in the data and analytics space. He helped pioneer and invent data literacy, which continues to evolve, so he now travels the world, speaking on it and helping companies and people out. Listen as Jordan and Jepson discuss subjects such as ultra running and the hero’s journey, the importance of learning from everyone, education and where it needs to change, and more about artificial intelligence.

About Jordan, ultra running 1:00The hero’s journey 7:30Everyone has a story and something to teach 20:00Vulnerability 28:00Superhero wife 41:20Priorities change, regret 47:00Writing code is so much easier now 57:30
“How many people in August 2022 thought ‘Hmm, I think in November Chat GPT is gonna launch’? It shifted the world. On January 2020, how many people were like ‘Hmm, I think a global pandemic’s gonna hit.’? It shifted the world. I think that you’re gonna set yourself up to fail if you don’t have a mindset for change, and change isn’t a bad thing, but it has such a negative connotation.” 47:15

In this week’s episode Jepson talks to David Hardoon, who is the Group Chief Data & AI Officer at UnionBank Philippines and Chief Executive Officer for Aboitiz Data Innovation. They talk about a few interesting concepts such as center of excellence and what that means, and then the importance of keeping and maintaining the momentum of your organization. They talk about the idea of taking risks and being happy, and the opposing concepts that we are wired for survival and avoiding risk, while at the same time we are wired for the hero’s journey.

Beginning David’s journey and video games 2:40Center of excellence 8:50A pivotal point in his life 16:00Defending the momentum 22:40Wanting to be happy in what you do 30:00Keep thinking new 41:00The art of asking questions 48:45
“Think of it this way, if you think about optimization and especially when you deal with a multi-objective optimization, never, in the real world, have an absolute maximum optimum. You will always have a scenario where you optimize for one thing and you sacrifice giving your underlying objectives.” 18:30

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Justin Harnish describes himself as a creator, promoter, and problem solver that loves to deliver the hoped-for future who utilizes science, mindfulness, and storytelling in product development and product management to ensure success. Justin and Jepson discuss AI and its trajectory, and where it stands among actual consciousness, discussing whether it’s truly conscious or not and what it lacks in order to become truly conscious.

Justin’s story 1:10AI race being driven by greed or empathy 12:30AI observing Newton’s laws 23:50Is GPT conscious? What is it missing? 30:00When you’d give up fighting that it’s not a synthetic organism 44:20A singular you 55:40Lucid dreaming 63:45Believing in a synthetic consciousness 66:00What makes up a good life 69:15Being your authentic self while also taking feedback from your tribe 81:00AI will change everything for this generation 98:55
“If you can have that intellectual fortitude, if you can be mindful in your worst time so the individual at the TSA doesn’t know that you’re having a bad day, you don’t take it out on the waiter or the waitress, that’s living a good life.” 7:28

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Today Jepson sits down with Erik Boduch, the CEO of Revcast, Founder of 24 and Up, and co-founder of Once and Always Pendo to discuss startups and various aspects that go into them such as the importance of blissful ignorance and why that is necessary to get a startup going. They talk about what a venture studio is vs what a venture capitalist is, the studio being more like a co-founder setup where they’re a lot more involved and it gives the early stage companies a lot more resources to help them succeed.

Startups 1:30Product market fit 6:25Pivoting 12:4024 and Up, venture studio vs venture capitalist 18:10Common themes and issues for founders 21:40The generative AI space 24:00Where product and AI is heading 33:00Picking an appropriate partner to go to market 36:50Hiring senior vs junior talent 42:00Internships 46:40Mental reset 49:15“In the majority of cases, startups need to have that direct relationship and control of the relationship with those early customers because without that direct relationship and control, they have a very important bottleneck or factor that’s out of your control and that becomes very difficult, especially if they don’t have leverage…I think it’s important that startups in the majority of cases aren’t overly reliant on partnerships for that sales component.” 37:20


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In this episode Jepson talks to Romain Fouache who is the CRO of Dataiku and who comes from a technical background. The cost of failure is going down and the ability to identify the failures beforehand is rapidly increasing, which is going to save companies so much more time in analyzing their data. “How do you give people the ability to do many things while feeling confident in the fact that the things that are done are the right things?” Romain gives some tips on the middle ground companies should be shooting for when trying to give people autonomy, but at the same time establish enough boundaries so that things don’t get out of hand.
Romain’s story and background 1:30A mature timeline 5:10Why Europe hasn’t taken a more aggressive VC culture 10:00Becoming aware of Dataiku 23:15Democratization success stories 28:05Being a sales leader and communication 33:05Making sure work doesn’t consume all of you 37:15The future of the company and the next generation 45:40“I think the exciting thing there is the cost of failure, so if it takes me weeks and I’m working for you, if I come back next week and I say it didn’t work, OK? But if I come back in a year and a half on one project and say it didn’t work, and you’ve paid me for a year and a half, that’s a very different comparison. That’s something I’m very excited about is the cost of failure of a bad idea is quickly going to zero.” 6:24

Today Jepson sits down with Ed Watal, the founder and principal of Intellibus, an IT strategy consultancy with 65 transformation consultants. Ed gives advice for IT strategy and architecture due to his business acumen and deep IT knowledge and he has also built and sold various Tech and AI startups. Jepson and Ed talk about self awareness and AI, and what makes us individuals and separates us from machine intelligence. They discuss World Digital Governance and rules and ethics that need to be set in order to make sure AI tech is not abused, especially with the general public that just doesn’t understand how it works.
Coming to the US to work for Deutsche Bank 7:00The banking industry and archaic systems 13:30Building good culture 20:15The future Ed hopes to have a voice in 25:20Self awareness 31:30The infographics 39:00Falling prey to external validation from AI 46:20World Digital Governance 51:15Potential problems people should be thinking about with AI 59:30Jepson’s view on AI and ethics 68:50“If you think of all discovery as just art and it’s just this giant jigsaw puzzle with the X that you were trying to solve, then maybe that’s what it is. It’s like solving a jigsaw, but solving a jigsaw presumes that you sort of know what you’re trying to get to and you have an intuitive, or some sort of higher sense of the outcome. The question is, does AI have that awareness or that sense of an outcome? Where does that sense come from? They say it comes from intuition, from something else. People who are spiritual will say it’s your higher self, you’re connected to something in the Universe, it depends on whether you’re purely Darwinian, spiritual, or somewhere in the middle.” 37:24