PSM: Professional Services Marketing PSM Show

Knowing what you know now, what advice would you give to your younger self? Deirdre Booth and Kate Robinette swap professional and personal advice in this fireside chat. If you have advice to share, please post to our social media pages on Facebook, LinkedIn, and Instagram #psmshow!
Resources:
Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle, by Emily and Amelia Nagoski (available on Amazon.) 
First, Break All the Rules: What the World's Greatest Managers Do Differently, by Marcus Buckingham (available on Amazon)
Citizenship in a Republic (The Man in the Arena), by Theodore Roosevelt
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Two theater kids walk into an AEC firm… Kathryn Ness visits Kayla McCause from Dragonfly AEC and Kate Robinette of GO Strategies about how they apply their performing arts training and experiences to their work in marketing and business development. These three get serious about play and the transferable skills of unusual backgrounds. Enter, stage right.
Kayla has a background in theater and worked in corporate marketing, giving her an appreciation of both the art and analytics behind effective marketing strategies. Energetic and inquisitive, she challenges herself to continually learn and improve in work and life, whether through asking powerful questions or experiencing different cultures. With her unique mix of skills and perspectives, Kayla gives AEC firms the tools to expand their influence and grow their revenue. From helping firms grow and diversify their market share to delivering engaging training sessions, she applies a combination of optimism and objectivity that creates connection and drives results.
 Kate is a theater nerd who learned about AEC marketing when a board member of the arts council where she worked suggested she talk to his marketing director. She quickly realized her linear thinking, strategic analysis, writing, and logistics management were a killer combination for helping to win work. She spent 20 years honing her craft. Now she helps companies strengthen their marketing and BD teams, culture, and employee engagement with the same combination of talents and a (slightly less) deadline-driven rigor.
 Kayla McCause, MS, CPSM - Dragonfly AEC, https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaylamccause/  
Kate Robinette, CPSM - GO Strategies, https://www.linkedin.com/in/karobinettecpsm/ 
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**Recorded live at the 2024 SMPS Pacific Regional Conference in Portland, Oregon**

Ryn (Kathryn) Bennett, MPH, is a non-binary 40 under 40 award winner, world-record-holding strongman competitor, celebrated TEDx and Ignite speaker, and advocate for developing mental toughness. They are the author of Productive Pain, a personal memoir and inspirational guide. With a background in social and behavioral health and process improvement, Ryn's professional career spans industries including tech, healthcare, and engineering/construction. Ryn used the mental fortitude and tenacity they learned in the gym to advance their career and overcome burnout, working from an entry-level process improvement role into a director position. Ryn is a Certified Professional Services Marketer and is nationally ranked as a strongman competitor. They are passionate about helping others develop the mental tenacity and internal strength they need to succeed, no matter the adversity they're facing.
The podcast picks up after Ryn's keynote. A few excerpts from the keynote have been included for context, but the podcast discussion does not depend on having heard the address.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathrynbennettwrites/ 
Productive Pain, by Ryn Bennett (available on Amazon)
https://www.proposalindustryexperts.com/ 
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You've heard of common sense and street sense. Get ready for farm sense, as doled out by SMPS Weld Cox awardee, Donna Corlew, FSMPS, CPSM. Learn how this self-described farm girl got her start, what she sees as the biggest changes in AEC marketing and BD, and what today's marketers can do for themselves to get ahead. Deirdre and Donna bless all the hearts in this uplifting look at our craft.  

A native Tennessean, Donna Corlew’s roots run deep in Southern hospitality, a culture of giving, and an abiding love of SEC football and Nashville Predators hockey. Don’t let that Southern twang fool you – under the surface lies the heart and soul of a Steel Magnolia driven by a passion for coaching and helping architects, engineers, and builders identify and maximize their unique talents and expertise. She works with AEC firms across the country to focus strategic vision and market research, grow connections and chemistry with clients and prospects, and help technical staff and marketing and business development professionals to thrive and win profitable work. With over 700 technical professionals trained as effective doer-sellers, Donna brings an understanding of the AEC market and a proven track record of performance and results. https://www.linkedin.com/in/donnacorlew/ 
Resource links:
Patrick Lencioni, The Ideal Team Player, available on amazon.com https://www.amazon.com/Ideal-Team-Player-Recognize-Cultivate-ebook/dp/B01B6AEJJ0  
Catch Donna at these conferences:  
https://convention.agc.org
https://smps-serc.org 
https://smpsmvrc.com
https://smpsheartland.org 
https://smpsheartland.org
https://www.amplifyaec.org/  

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In today’s episode, we have a case study on authentic and intentional leadership. Frank and Deirdre talk with Justin Conger, of Conger Construction, about leadership, decision making, culture, brand, and how marketing impacts a firm.
 
At the helm of Conger Construction Group, Justin Conger stands as a paragon of transformative leadership. His distinct approach, grounded in the principles of servant leadership, has been the compass guiding the company’s ascent in the construction sector. With the conviction that true leadership stems from serving first, Justin continuously places the needs and professional growth of his team at the forefront. This ethos has not only fostered a culture of mutual respect, trust, and empowerment within Conger Construction Group but has also been instrumental in its sustained business expansion.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-conger-27636614/ 
 
Resource links:
Conger Construction: https://www.congerbuilt.com/ 
Vistage: https://www.vistage.com/ 
Off Balance, Matthew Kelly: https://www.amazon.com/Off-Balance-Work-Life-Professional-Satisfaction/dp/1942611331 
The 5 Disfunctions of a Team, Patrick Lencioni: https://www.amazon.com/Five-Dysfunctions-Team-Leadership-Fable/dp/0787960756 
 

Ever wonder what it takes to be a leader? Deirdre and Kathryn explore what leadership means, how to become a leader, and what it takes to go beyond a title to truly lead. They also look behind the curtain on how leadership decisions are made. They bring their education, personal experiences, and practical tips to unlock the secrets of good leadership.
As a partner in GO Strategies, Kathryn brings an energy and vitality to the team that significantly promotes the mission of “making everything about marketing and business development easier.” With more than 20 years in the A/E/C industry, Kathryn brings an in-the-trenches perspective for how things work and, more importantly, how things can work better. Her sense of humor is balanced with a sense of getting-the-job done. She is a strategic thinker, an excellent listener, and provides creative solutions that work, not abstract theory that sits on shelves. As a life-long learner, she is a certified professional services marketer (CPSM), certified professional life coach (CPLC), and a 6 Types of Working Genius facilitator. Kathryn is a frequent presenter and facilitator, in both the virtual and in-person environments, presenting at national and regional conferences, and at SMPS chapters Beyond work…she loves to scuba dive and is PADI rescue diver, has been called a gym-rat (rats love cheese!), and enjoys time with her 1-year-old grandson. She served a past chapter president for the SMPS Sacramento Chapter and is currently on a committee for APWA Sacramento Chapter.
 
Resources:
Adam Grant, Think Again (available on Amazon)
Patrick Lencioni, The Ideal Team Player (available on Amazon)
Edgar Schein, Humble Inquiry (available on Amazon)
Six Types of Working Genius: https://www.workinggenius.com/ 
 
Connect with Kathryn Ness: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathryn-ness-cpsm-6a08928
 
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