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Episode 47 The Oakland County Child Murders Part 3

In the last installment of our deep dive into the Oakland County Child Murders, we take a last look at potential suspects, and explore the possibility that a sinister island had something to do with the murders. We also give further consideration to the physical evidence to see how likely it is that the case will be solved based on DNA.

Episode 46 The Oakland County Child Murders Part 2

Our deep dive into the Oakland County Child Murders case continues, and in this episode, we look closely at two prominent suspects who may have been ruled out based on the results of polygraph tests alone. Both of these men had records for unspeakable sex crimes against children. Although they look good on paper, the polygraph tests alone seem to have taken them off the suspect list, but can we find something more solid that could perhaps take them off of the suspect list, or will we find something that makes them worthy of being placed back on it? Once again, we are joined by Geographic Profiler Doug MacGregor in this episode.

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The Citizen Detective team includes:
Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

Episode 45 The Oakland County Child Murders Part 1

For just over a one year period between February 1976 and March 1977, four children were abducted and murdered in Oakland County, Michigan. Although two of the victims were boys, and two were girls, and despite clear evidence of rape and binding on the male victims, police came to believe that one killer, or a set of killers was responsible for each abduction and murder. In each case, the victims were held for extended periods of time, fed, and cleaned. Each was re-dressed prior to being disposed of. Fear struck the residents across that area, and most parents were afraid to let their kids go outside alone. Just as suddenly as the murders started, they came to an end. A task force was put together to hunt down the killer or killers. Along the way, they looked into several suspects and local sex offenders of children. They also fielded many tips including one of them that led police to search almost every AMC Gremlin withing sight along with their drivers. In the end, the case went unsolved and remains so to this day. The good news is, there appears to be clues to work with, and physical evidence that may one day solve this case.

In part 1 of our investigation into the Oakland County Child Murders, we explore each attack and examine the known clues. We also explore where the victims were abducted from, and where their bodies were dumped, and we are aided by Geographic Profiler Doug MacGregor to see if we can find any clues in the killer's movements. 

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https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/
The Citizen Detective team includes:
Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

The conversation continues with the Citizen Detective after-show; The Scrum

Episode 44 Ladies of the Lake

Between 1994 and 1997, a serial killer preyed on sex workers in the Parkdale neighborhood of Toronto, Onatario in Canada. The bodies of 3 women were found in or on the shore of Lake Ontario. The crime scenes were nearly identical. Each victim was strangled and violated,then drowned. Other elements of the crime scenes mirrored each other as well,demonstrating a clear signature with each crime.A potential suspect was developed, but for reasons that aren't fully understood, a strong enough case couldn't be made against him and the case remains unsolved. Who killed the Ladies of the Lake? In this episode, the team discusses what potential clues and evidence might finally answer this question.

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Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes.

Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/
The Citizen Detective team includes:
Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective