#8 Is nonverbal consent ever enough? | A dialogue with Kitty Ghostless Machine

In the second Ghostless Machine dialogue, I talk to Kitty about verbal vs. nonverbal consent. Kitty jokingly refers to herself as a “consent-nazi”, meaning she thinks the only legitimate way to obtain consent is verbally. I, on the other hand, tend to think that such an approach fails to take into consideration the full complexity of human behavior and sexuality. Because of that I tend to favor alternative ways to tackle the issue of accidental violations of consent. So what do you think? Is nonverbal consent ever enough?



00:00:00 Teaser

00:00:42 Intro

00:01:50 Kitty's intro

00:02:30 Where do we agree and disagree?

00:06:47 How to ethically make a move on the first date?

00:08:35 Are there legitimate alternatives to verbal consent?

00:12:26 Steelmanning

00:15:59 What about people who are turned off by verbal requests for consent?

00:16:53 Nurture vs. Nature

00:33:43 How plausible it is that asking for verbal consent could become a dominant social norm?

00:39:36 If verbal consent wasn't an option, what would be the second best alternative?

00:43:23 Should we promote verbal consent as an admirable option rather than an obligation?

00:44:59 How confident are we about your opinion?

00:46:42 How confident am I?

00:47:20 Asking for consent in a non-robotic way

00:51:23 Why do guys reject the idea of asking for consent verbally?

00:55:33 What would make you change your mind?

00:57:25 What would make me change my mind?

01:00:20 Tips and final thoughts from Kitty

01:01:30 Do you think being dogmatic about verbal consent risks backfiring?



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