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Conversations between writer friends Seth Haines and Tsh Oxenreider about living sacramentally, usually over drinks. Pull up a chair and let's chat about faith, books, music, films, family, nature, and other signs of the divine.

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Conversations between writer friends Seth Haines and Tsh Oxenreider about living sacramentally, usually over drinks. Pull up a chair and let's chat about faith, books, music, films, family, nature, and other signs of the divine.

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    Slower

    Slower

    Walking is good for us, but it takes a while — it’s not the most efficient mode of transportation. But it’s not about efficiency; that’s not the point. What about the other stuff in our life that can benefit from slowness? Seth and Tsh talk about being slow to reply, slow to respond, and slow to assume, and how we all need to do more of it.

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    Tsh’s Rule of Life workshop

    Ancient Nutrition Bone Broth

    Mark Sparrow’s tweet

    @findinginterestingpeople

    Atlas Obscura Podcast

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    The Other Two Rs

    The Other Two Rs

    We all know we’re supposed to care about the environment — but what does that look like with a sacramental posture? And what do we do about it besides tossing our plastic and cardboard in the recycling bin? Seth and Tsh admit their own challenges while recognizing the need to do more — sanely. After all, the other two Rs are more effective than the third.

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    Praise Be to You - Laudato Si’, by Pope Francis

    Why You Should Quit Recycling, by Shelbizlee

    We Tried Going Zero Waste for a Month, Here’s What Happened, by WheezyWaiter

    Silence, by Shusaku Endo

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    Hope > Isolation

    Hope > Isolation

    After some tragic news a few weeks ago about a friend of Seth’s, he and Tsh unpack what it means to live in our current reality of isolation. So many people are lonely, hurting, or have lost their way, and the best and truest solution is community. Community is the conduit for hope. No one needs to be alone. Let’s fight for hope because it’s literal life or death for some of us. There is genuine sacramental beauty in reaching out to other people.

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    Family Furnishings, by Alice Munro

    Rest, by Alex Soojung-Kim Pang

    Suicide Hotline — 1-800-273-8255

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    Tsh: This is A Drink With a Friend, I’m Tsh Oxenreider.

    Seth: And I’m Seth Haines.

    Tsh: Seth, what are you drinking?

    Seth: I’ve been trying various things for nutrition and I just finished this meal replacement, actually it’s as a meal supplement. It has all your daily greens and antioxidants, and protein and all that stuff. I just finished it and to be honest, it tasted a little bit like death. Like chocolate death but still like death. I was going to drink coffee this afternoon but I decided I wanted to wash that taste out of my mouth a little bit with something that was a little bit more berry-ish so I am drinking what has come to be a staple on the show, the Spindrift sparkling water, this is the raspberry-lime version. I specifically got it to wash the taste out of my mouth. 

    Tsh: Chocolate death sounds gross. Any drink with the word death in it. 

    Seth: I’m a huge chocolate lover. Amber says there are two types of people. Lemon people and chocolate people. I am team chocolate. I’m excited when I see something that is healthy and chocolate except I haven’t learned my lesson yet that most things that are healthy and chocolate taste like chocolate death. 

    Tsh: They are not good, which is sad.

    Seth: It is sad. If any of the listeners have any ideas about things that we should eat/drink that are healthy and chocolate I will very much take them up on it. 

    Tsh: There you go.

    Seth: Tsh, what are you drinking today?

    Tsh: Speaking of repeats on the show, two minutes until we recorded, I was like, oh shoot, I should get a different drink. No, forget it. I’m drinking my concoction that I now need to come up with a name for because I drink this every afternoon. I think it was what I was drinking two weeks ago when I was on the show last. It is this weird apple cider vinegar plus lemon plus Himalayan sea salt plus sparking water concoction. It’s really good. I know it sounds gross but it’s not. I’m doing this thing that we will maybe one day talk about on the podcast about intermittent fasting and it’s good for electrolytes, to get your salt in when you’re not getting it in other ways and when you’re drinking a whole lot of water. That’s why I drink it every afternoon and I love it. That’s what I’m drinking, in a big ole mason jar.

    Seth: You should call it DWAF for drink with a friend and you can just say, today I’m drinking DWAF. 

    Tsh: I like it. I can do that actually.

    Seth: Which also sounds how a four year old would pronounce giraffe. 

    Tsh: That’s kind of cute. That’s our new logo. 

    Seth: There you go.

    Tsh: Thank you for your lovely wife, Amber, holding down the fort last week. It was lovely to hear ya’lls voices. I submitted my book and I am human again so I appreciate it. We might just have her on again because I’d like to talk with her about all sorts of stuff. 

    Seth: She’s great. We sh

    A Morning Routine (on a Good Day)

    A Morning Routine (on a Good Day)

    Tsh was on a crazy-tight book deadline this week, so in this episode, Seth is talking to none other than his wife Amber! She shares her morning routine when the day’s going well: daily examen, prayer, poetry, and the things she does to get her creative juices flowing. If you need some inspiration for your own morning routine and you’re hankering for a good old-fashioned Southern drawl that makes you smile, you need this conversation.

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    Selected Stories of Anton Chekov

    Survival is a Style: Poems, by Christian Wiman

    Sara Billups on Instagram

    Heather King

    Ophelia, by Roo Panes

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    Seth: Welcome to A Drink With a Friend, I’m Seth Haines. Today, I do not have Tsh Oxenreider here because Tsh is working diligently to finish a book.

    Instead of Tsh today, I have asked my lovely wife, Amber Haines, to join me. Amber is wonderful, beautiful, the mother of my child, also an amazing writer, and human being in general. Amber, welcome to A Drink With a Friend.

    Amber: Thank you. I’m happy to be here. 

    Seth: What are you drinking today?

    Amber: I have had enough coffee this morning to fuel a tug boat so I’m drinking OM Mushroom Hot Chocolate. I know that probably sounds super gross but I have this thing where I want to eat mushrooms every day because I believe in the power of mushrooms [laugh].

    Seth: Wait. What kind of mushrooms? I don’t understand. 

    Amber: I believe all edible mushrooms are powerful but I only have Lions Mane or Reishi or different…things that help with…not magic mushrooms.

    Seth: Not those kinds of mushrooms.

    Amber: No. 

    Seth: I’m glad to hear that when I go to work you’re not sitting at home sipping on magic mushroom juice.

    Amber: You would know if I did that.

    Seth: That would be awkward. That’s probably true. You’d be seeing double rainbows.

    Amber: Maybe.

    Seth: I’m in the office, which means I have a Keurig and as blasphemous as this sounds, I’m drinking Starbucks from a Keurig. If you listen to the show very often you know that I’m a bit of a coffee snob and this is truly terrible coffee. I’m not going to lie. That’s where I am this morning. You are in a much better place. 

    Amber: It’s fine. You just keep going. 

    Seth: Today, on A Drink With a Friend, what we wanted to do is talk a little bit about the morning and morning creativity. In particular, and I thought there’s no better person to talk to this about than you because you’ve really done a good job over the last little bit of really trying to guard your morning times and do good morning work and over the last little bit, I have not. I have been lazy. Getting up late and not doing my creative work and having a hard time getting into my morning peaceful space. I wanted to talk a little bit about that this morning and I want to talk a little bit about what you do. Walk me through our morning routine as if I need to walk through that. Walk the listener through our together morning routine. 

    Amber: Okay. Just to be clear, I’m normally lazy. I have always struggled with sleep, with getting enough sleep, so even if I have enough hours in the bed, I’m awake. When I got Covid at the end of February, my body undid all the sleep patterns that I gained. On the back end of Covid, I ended up waking up every morning at 3:35 a.m. This has enhanced my writing time. I don’t have a choice. It’s put me back in the rhythm that I don’t exactly love but my old rhythm was to work to wake up pretty early. We like the house still and dark. We go to separate places because if we don’

    A Rule of Life

    A Rule of Life

    St. Benedict of Nursia created a rule of life for his monastic community, and over a thousand years later we still look to it for inspiration. In this episode, Tsh walks Seth through a method of creating his own personal rule, one that he can tweak and adjust for the rest of his life — and you, dear listener, can do the same. After all, a Rule of Life is simply “a commitment to live your life in a particular way,” which means it’s a stellar tool for helping you say yes and no to the right things. Tsh has been leaning into this practice since 2014.

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    The Chosen

    Courtney Dauwalter documentaries: The Source of the Will and An Almost Perfect Race

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    Seth: Welcome to A Drink With a Friend, I am Seth Haines.

    Tsh: And I’m Tsh Oxenreider.

    Seth: Tsh, what are you drinking?

    Tsh: I don’t remember if we’ve talked about this mocktail, I feel like we have. I am drinking this thing that makes some people gag. It is apple cider vinegar and lemon juice and salt and water. 

    Seth: Salt?

    Tsh: A tiny pinch of salt, like a three-fingered pinch. I’m doing some intermittent fasting for a variety of reasons and this is a good thing to have for electrolytes and for science-y reasons. I actually think it tastes really good and just read today that if it tastes good that means your body needs it, it has to do with acidity or alkaline or something. If it tastes bad, maybe your body doesn’t need it. Maybe that was their way of convincing you that it’s healthy. I think it tastes really good.

    Seth: If you think Diet Coke tastes really good, is that your body?

    Tsh: No, this is just for this drink. It’s a doctor who is saying specifically for this drink, he says, I know it sounds gross but it’s actually really good if your body needs these things, apple cider vinegar in particular. 

    Seth: I’m a big fan of shrubs. A shrub is a sipping vinegar so it has a lot of those same characteristics and when I stopped drinking, I drank a lot of shrubs and tonic or shrubs and soda water. It has that same flavor profile. It’s fantastic. 

    Tsh: I believe you. To me, it tastes like a whiskey sour. I get it. What are you drinking?

    Seth: I am drinking Airship coffee from my local Red Kite coffee shop. Sometimes they’ll brew different kinds of coffee and today I am drinking Airship. It’s really good. I don’t know which one it is because they just said that’s what they are brewing and that’s what I got.

    Tsh: Cool.

    Seth: It is great. I finding more and more that I have these two amazing local coffee roasters. They’re completely different and I can almost taste the difference in their roasting techniques. I think I can do it blind at this point.

    Tsh: That’s a sign of good coffee if you can taste the nuances like that. 

    Seth: They’re both so good at what they do. Onyx has a national reputation but Airship, they are doing amazing work locally. I appreciate it. 

    I’m really excited about today’s episode and I actually think that of all the episodes we’ve done, the listeners, YOU, dear listener should be most excited about this with me because we are going to school. You are going to school me today. Are you excited about schooling me?

    Tsh: Yeah. Actually, this is good for me, too. I’m a student alongside of you. 

    Seth: A lot of people know this, I’m an attorney by trade but I’m also a ghostwriter and a co-writer. What that means is that I have a lot of practice in taking narratives apart and putting them together and organizing them in ways that make for books. I do this for other authors, I do it for myself. We’ve worked together on some

    In the Silence

    In the Silence

    What could be said of Good Friday that hasn’t been said for thousands of years? Today is a day for listening more than talking, for hearing from God more than telling God all we know. Today is a day of mystery, and it’s good for us to sit in the mystery without constantly searching for answers. Seth & Tsh reflect on the goodness that Jesus is God and they are not.

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    A Swim in a Pond in the Rain, by George Saunders

    Orphan Train, by Christina Baker Kline

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    On every excursion, round every corner, dirt road or paved, I find this haunting. | photo by seth

    Tsh: This is A Drink With a Friend, I’m Tsh Oxenreider.

    Seth: And I’m Seth Haines.

    Tsh: Seth, what are you drinking right now?

    Seth: Today, I am drinking a sparkling water, a flavored sparkling water but it is not a brand that we have featured yet, Tsh. I’m drinking Spindrift. I get it at Whole Foods, I don’t know who makes it. But it’s pretty good and this is the half-tea half-lemon sparkling water and I’m not going to lie to you, it tastes a little bit skunky, if you know what I’m saying. I might be addicted to it a little bit.

    Tsh: Oh, wow. I did not know sparkling water came in tea.

    Seth: I could drink this all day, every day, and probably not get tired of it which is really weird for me to say. I was going to drink coffee, it is the morning as we record this, we’re still a little bit off schedule. I’ve had so much coffee that I’m getting jittery. 

    Tsh: Oh, yeah. I’ve been there. 

    Seth: I can’t do that anymore today. What are you drinking? 

    Tsh: Literally, copy and paste from last week and I wanted to be more original but this is what I got, it’s the morning. It is my standby Ethiopia coffee. 

    Seth: Word. On that Ethiopian, what’s the profile? Is it blueberries?

    Tsh: Yirgacheffe. It’s the blueberries, yep. It’s my go-to.

    Seth: Isn’t it amazing?

    Tsh: It’s weird. It’s one of the only coffee beans that I agree with its description. Sometimes when they’ll say citrusy notes of jasmine and I’m making stuff up…honey. I’m like, really? Are you sure? To me, blueberries is a real thing.

    Seth: When you get a good Yirgacheffe, it’s like a blueberry comes and punches you in the face.

    Tsh: Right. Exactly.

    Seth: And it gives you an aftertaste of coffee. 

    Tsh: And it’s lovely. 

    Seth: It is lovely.

    Tsh: It is Good Friday, today when this goes out. We’re actually recording it a few days before so it’s basically Holy Week. We were just having this discussion about what to say on Good Friday and it’s a tricky dance for us. What are your initial thoughts about Good Friday?

    Seth: I think my initial thoughts are what to say on Good Friday/if to say anything on Good Friday. This is my however many-eth year of celebrating Lent and what I find is that in Holy Week everybody has something to say and there’s so many people that are saying really good things that why do I even need to add to it? There are so many good people in the Church who are saying amazing things, offering amazing reflections. What do I have to bring to the conversation? A big part of what I’ve been struggling with this week in my own personal writing, in my own personal space, is why say anything? Why not just be quiet? For me, that’s my initial thought. Maybe it’s time for us to be a little bit more quiet. As we discuss this, it actually seemed a little bit appropriate to just say, hey let’s take a quieter approach, let’s

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