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In this podcast, Jamil Ellis talks with his father, retired Federal Magistrate Judge Ronald Ellis, about the historical role of law in shaping the societal structures which act as barriers to attaining the American dream. They discuss why "legal" is not a synonym for "moral" and why law, a prime actor in creating the problems, can and should be a part of the solution. Join them as they talk about wealth, voting, education, criminal justice and other topics which divide the nation.

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In this podcast, Jamil Ellis talks with his father, retired Federal Magistrate Judge Ronald Ellis, about the historical role of law in shaping the societal structures which act as barriers to attaining the American dream. They discuss why "legal" is not a synonym for "moral" and why law, a prime actor in creating the problems, can and should be a part of the solution. Join them as they talk about wealth, voting, education, criminal justice and other topics which divide the nation.

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    States Rights, Legal Wrongs: A Recurring Page from the Segregationist Playbook

    States Rights, Legal Wrongs: A Recurring Page from the Segregationist Playbook

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the history of invoking some form of States’ Rights theory to limit the efforts of the federal government to expand or protect the rights of persons within the United States
     
     
    Southern Manifesto
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Manifesto
     
    Mississippi State Sovereign Commission
    https://web.archive.org/web/20191205182453/http://mshistorynow.mdah.state.ms.us/index.php?id=243
    https://www.scencyclopedia.org/sce/entries/nullification/#:~:text=The%20crisis%2C%20which%20began%20as,and%20secede%20from%20the%20Union.
     
    “Calhoun’s justification of nullification and secession as constitutional rights of the state also went beyond traditional states’ rights doctrine as they were based on an unprecedented notion of absolute state sovereignty. Most old states’ righters, including James Madison, condemned nullification as an extraconstitutional and un-republican theory as it was not mentioned in the U.S. Constitution and because it subverted the cardinal principle of republican government, majority rule.”
     
     
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina_Declaration_of_Secession#:~:text=The%20South%20Carolina%20Declaration%20of,for%20seceding%20from%20the%20United
     
    "A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery."
     
    https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/setting-the-precedent-mendez-et-al-v-westminster-school-district-of-orange-county-et-al-and-the-us-courthouse-and-post-office.htm#:~:text=Mendez%2C%20et%20al.-,v.,school%20segregation%20across%20the%20state.
     
    “Before Brown, et al., v. Board of Education., et al., made racial segregation in public schools unconstitutional, there was Mendez, et al. v. Westminster School District of Orange County, et al. This 1946 class-action lawsuit challenged the constitutionality of separate schools for Mexican American students in Southern California and eventually helped end public school segregation across the state.”
     
    https://mississippitoday.org/2024/01/14/on-this-day-in-1963-alabama-gov-georg-wallace-said-segregation-forever/
    (Jan 14, 1963)
    “On the same portico of the Alabama Capitol in Montgomery where Jefferson Davis was sworn in as president of the Confederacy, Alabama Gov. George Wallace delivered his inaugural address, telling the crowd, “In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever!” 
    Asa Carter, a member of the Ku Klux Klan, wrote his speech, which made national headlines and thrust Wallace into the national spotlight.” 
    https://www.npr.org/2010/01/18/122701268/i-have-a-dream-speech-in-its-entirety
     “I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of ‘interposition’ and ‘nullification’ — one day right there in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.” 
    Simple Justice: The History of Brown v. Board of Education and Black America's Struggle for Equality

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    Claudine Gay: The Latest Victim in the Debate over DEI, Affirmative Action, and Meritocracy

    Claudine Gay: The Latest Victim in the Debate over DEI, Affirmative Action, and Meritocracy

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the controversy concerning the Resignation of Harvard president Claudine Gay.Is Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion undermining merit or does it address a history of Discrimination, Exclusion, and Inequality.
     
    Claudine Gay's Resignation
    The Claudine Gay Debacle Was Never about Merit
    Claudine Gay and the Limits of Social Engineering at Harvard
    Biden to Appeal to Black Voters in Campaign Trip to Charleston, SC

    • 19 min
    From Jamestown to Charlottesville: Virginia and America’s racial divide

    From Jamestown to Charlottesville: Virginia and America’s racial divide

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the leading role that Virginia has played in the racial divide in America’s history.  Home to the Founding Fathers and Capital of the Confederacy, the state has been the crucible of the ideals which built this country and the ideas which would tear it apart.
     
    Washington, DC History
     
    https://washington.org/DC-information/washington-dc-history
     
    Virginia 1619
     
    https://time.com/5653369/august-1619-jamestown-history/
     
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2019/02/06/virginia-is-birthplace-american-slavery-segregation-it-still-cant-escape-that-legacy/
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Virginia_political_crisis.
     
    https://blackvirginia.richmond.edu/items/show/873
      
    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/when-white-supremacy-came-to-virginia/
     
    https://encyclopediavirginia.org/entries/an-act-concerning-servants-and-slaves-1705/
     
    https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/10-facts-founding-fathers
     
    https://www.monticello.org/exhibits-events/livestreams-videos-and-podcasts/enslaved-on-grounds-slavery-at-the-university-of-virginia/#:~:text=From%20Thomas%20Jefferson's%20founding%20of,nation's%20most%20prestigious%20public%20universities
     
     
    Florida Episode - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/black-history-never-equal-never-protected-first-stop/id1485019282?i=1000623777868 
     
    Indiana Episode - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/black-history-never-equal-never-protected-up-north/id1485019282?i=1000627180421 

    • 25 min
    Holding the Line: Sandra Day O’Connor’s legacy of bringing stability to the Supreme Court by protecting its established precedents.

    Holding the Line: Sandra Day O’Connor’s legacy of bringing stability to the Supreme Court by protecting its established precedents.

    In this episode, the hosts discuss Justice O’Connor’s role as the “swing vote” as the Court addressed major fault lines in our society on issues such as abortion, affirmative action, and gender equality.
     
    Planned Parenthood v. Casey
    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/505/833/
     
    Grutter v. Bollinger
    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/539/306/

    • 18 min
    Black History: Never Equal; Never Protected: Up North to Indiana

    Black History: Never Equal; Never Protected: Up North to Indiana

    In this episode, the hosts continue examining how specific states have addressed racial equality, Black history, and White Supremacy. In this episode, they travel outside the Deep South, and focus on the state of Indiana – Klan Capital and home of Sundown Towns.
     
    LINKS IN THIS EPISODE Links for podcast
    Violence in Jacksonville Florida https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/26/us/jacksonville-florida-shooting-multiple-fatalities/index.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/30/us/politics/jacksonville-desantis-black-community.html Ax Handle Saturday https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ax_Handle_Saturday Indiana History links https://www.wboi.org/news/2020-09-17/sundown-towns-in-indiana-how-a-legacy-of-whites-only-towns-rose-and-continues-to-affect-today https://www.wrtv.com/longform/the-ku-klux-klan-ran-indiana-once-could-it-happen-again https://www.in.gov/history/for-educators/download-issues-of-the-indiana-historian/indiana-emigrants-to-liberia/being-black-in-indiana/#:~:text=The%20culmination%20of%20this%20prejudice,that%20money%20from%20fines%20be https://www.in.gov/history/about-indiana-history-and-trivia/explore-indiana-history-by-topic/indiana-documents-leading-to-statehood/constitution-of-1851/article-13-negroes-and-mulattoes/ https://www.in.gov/history/for-educators/all-resources-for-educators/resources/underground-railroad/gwen-crenshaw/the-colonization-movement/ https://www.tribstar.com/community/state-didnt-allow-slavery-but-had-other-laws/article_3ebadde5-f5cc-5903-bd0e-985df0f87162.html Rosedale, NY Racist attacks https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/21/nyregion/racist-video-rosedale-queens.html Other Related Episodes
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    • 29 min
    Black History: Never Equal; Never Protected - First Stop: Florida

    Black History: Never Equal; Never Protected - First Stop: Florida

    In this episode, the hosts begin a series of episodes examining how specific states have addressed the racial equality, Black history, and White Supremacy.  First stop: Florida.
     
    LINKS IN THIS EPISODE Smithsonian Magazine
    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/one-hundred-years-ago-four-day-race-riot-engulfed-washington-dc-180972666/
     
    Florida Academic Standards 2023
    https://www.fldoe.org/core/fileparse.php/20653/urlt/6-4.pdf
     
    Ron DeSantis and the State Where History Goes to Die https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/28/opinion/desantis-slavery-florida-curriculum-history.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
    Removing Relics of "The Lost Cause" | On the Media | WNYC Studios
    https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/segments/removing-relics-lost-cause-on-the-media
    Lost Cause 
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cause_of_the_Confederacy
     
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    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-fire-this-time-black-history-surviving-in-the/id1485019282?i=1000599386336 
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/it-wasnt-only-tulsa/id1485019282?i=1000523721230
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/stolen-history/id1485019282?i=1000462863417 
     
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    • 34 min

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