The Knew Guys Gabe Dunn & River Butcher

cw: food, diet and working out discussion in the introduction

Gabe and River discuss working out and muscle building. Then, comedian Jes Tom joins the podcast for a freewheeling conversation about keyhole top surgery pros and cons, going by they/them pronouns since 2011, and the use of "she." Jes and Gabe vs. River's sexuality, using a hoe era to figure out who you are, and living and loving amongst cis gay guys. And finally, what it was like to do their one-person show "Less Lonely."


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Gabe and River are as normal as two regular guys. Was puberty traumatic for everyone? River answers a listener's question about getting misgendered. Then, Florida, the movie Stress Positions, and which Challengers boys we'd be. Author Ben Greene joins the show to talk about his book on creating joy around trans kids, his experience coming out as trans in high school, and then into some deep philosophy about expanding community, crypto-fascism, parental grief, and EVERYTHING. This is a great one. Settle in, make some tea, and enjoy.


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River gives a very cool update on the WNBA draft and coach Dawn Staley's comments on trans women in sports. Next, an incredible question leads to a nuanced conversation about internalized transphobia and judging other trans people. Then, what's the correlation between transness and "giftedness?" A listener writes in to commiserate with River's comments about holding dual identities. Finally, how do we feel about transness and aging?

Link: https://transadvocacyok.org/


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Gabe and River both had great experiences in New York... separately. Then, rapper Cuee joins the show to talk about the business of being a queer rapper, his political and creative inspirations (and what it means to be a loverboy), and redoing your old albums post-transition aka (Taylor's Version) (Trans). Plus, performing at Lawrence, Kansas' first Pride, being an incredibly confident stud in high school, and how he and ESPN's Katie Barnes got their boarding school to change their uniforms.

Cuee: https://cueemusic.com/
https://www.instagram.com/cueemusic/


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Adrian sends a fantastic email about cherry-picking horror stories from the state of Florida that has River cheering in his seat. Then, trans casting director Charlie Hano joins the pod to talk about auditioning dos and don'ts, the constantly changing landscape for what trans looks like in entertainment, and his own transition story born from a dream.


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Gabe wants to find River a husband at a sports bar, even though River is in his "hetero era." The duo talk about all kinds of topics, including looking for unconditional love, dying their beards, relating to Ken in the Barbie movie, masculinizing facial filler, and whether everyone hates being a woman. Should trans people boycott Florida? Gabe and River address an email about an NYPD ad appearing at the end of an episode, and the tragic murder of non-binary student Nex Benedict.


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