On Property Podcast Ryan McLean

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Some experts claim there is an ideal percentage of renters in a suburb vs owner occupiers.







But what does the data actually say and what is the best % of renters in the suburb we are investing in?







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0:00 - Introduction1:00 - Why people speculate that this is important3:25 - What does the data say (2 years)5:30 - 7 years of data5:50 - 12 years of data6:33 - Is this something to consider for suburb growth?9:00 - Why might this happen?11:10 - How to find % of renters in an area







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Ryan 0:00Some experts claim that there is an ideal percentage of renter's in a suburb versus owner occupiers where you want to invest in suburbs that have just the right amount of renters and just the right amount of owner occupiers. And not one way or another, that it's going to give you, you know, the best chance of renting your property and the best chance of selling your property. But what does the data actually say about what is the best percentage of renters? Do we want a high percentage of renters? So there's lots of people in the area to rent out property? Do we want a low percentage and mostly owner occupiers, which means there might not be as rental properties in the market? Is that going to be hard to then rent out the property? How does all this affect us? So today, I've got with me, Jeremy Shepherd from select residential property to talk through the data and to say, Okay, what does the data say about percentage of renters versus the growth that an area is likely to help? So thanks for coming on today, Jeremy,







Jeremy 0:56thanks for having me on your show. Right.







Ryan 0:59Okay, so what does the data tell us about this Goldilocks zone of just you know, the right amount of renters? I think, if I've ever heard it, which I don't know if I have, but it would be like around that kind of 20 to 30 35%. Mark, and then people say, you know, anything that's too high renters is probably not good.







Jeremy 1:20Yeah. Well, there's there's an argument where you say are too high renters means? There aren't enough owner occupiers taking better care of their property. There's too many other landlords you competing with over the over the other, the tenants available. And then the opposite is some people are arguing. Well, if there are no tenants there, how do we know that that anyone wants to rent there. But that's really just a case of, there's no supply of rental property, I would much prefer to buy in a location where, where there are no other landlords I'm competing with. But anyway, that's all very good data, we







Ryan 1:56heard from at least one expert in the field that has said you want to target suburbs with this range of renters. And you don't want to look in suburbs that have really low percentage of renter's because it can be hard to rent out your property. And I remember looking at that thinking, I don't know about that video that you and I have done on population growth versus capital growth. And the fact that, you know, population growth just kind of indicates the supply that already is existing and has been built over time, because people are waiting in the streets in order to move into a suburb or anything like that. If there's no houses there for them to move into. So when I think about rental demand in a market,...

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In order to get the best return on investment we are told to invest in the right suburb so over the long term they will outperform other suburbs over the long term.







But what I'm starting to see is that a lot of suburbs tend to perform extremely similar over the long term.







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0:00 - Introduction0:58 - How comparing apples to oranges applies to property investing2:08 - Why doesn't extreme growth disparity happen?4:40 - Chance of better than average capital growth over the long term8:35 - The positives and the negatives of above average growth being hard to achieve9:25 - How can we get above average returns as an investor13:00 - Differences between 1 year, 5 years, 10 years and 25 years growth14:43 - What are the chances of picking a high performing market over 15 years vs 5 years16:40 - Can you determine high performers over the long term (30 years)19:10 - Radical vs marginal difference in price







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Ryan 0:00In order to get the best return on investment and achieve our property investment goals, we're told to invest in the right suburbs so that over the long term, they're going to outperform other suburbs. And you're going to end up you know, so much richer than if you purchased in the wrong suburb. But what I'm saying to say what image Jamie Shepard from select residential property is that a lot of suburbs in general, tend to perform very similar over the long term that yes, in the short term, there can be big disparities between suburbs. And there can be value in you know, picking your suburbs for the short term. But when you start stretching it out to 20 3040 years, a lot of these suburbs especially the choosing suburbs, with good fundamentals tend to perform extremely similar. So I guess this is kind of looking at short term versus long term investing. And Jeremy has got a great metaphor and analogy that can help us understand this, which is the concept of purchasing apples and oranges. So do you want to lead us into that, Jeremy? Sure.







Jeremy 1:03Thanks. Thanks, Ryan. Thanks for having me on your show. No, all right, let's say you walk into a fruit shop 100 years ago, and there's a crate of apples, and there's a crate of oranges. Now assume that the apples were one cent each and the oranges were two cents each. If the apples grew at a rate of 4% per annum, whilst the oranges grew at a rate of 8% per annum, then after 100 years, an apple would cost you 50 cents. And an orange would cost you $44.







Ryan 1:36Okay, imagine the beginning. Did I just start out at two cents? Did you say







Jeremy 1:40yes, oranges for two cents.







Ryan 1:43So in the beginning, oranges were worth twice as much as apples. And then in the end the end after 100 years, if they continue to have this disparity, and they grow the 4% apples versus 8% oranges in 100 years time, the owners are now worth 88 times more than apples. But why? Why doesn't this happen?







Jeremy 2:05Okay, well imagine walking into a fruit shop right now and you've got a hankering for some fruit. You're looking at apples 50 cents each, or oranges $44 each. You just you'd have to be mad keen on oranges to spend 44 bucks on one. Right? So

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I might be able to buy my first investment property in the next couple of months. I am finally saving my first house deposit.







It has been a long journey and this episode I want to take you on a journey of the property deposits I have saved in the past. But why didn't I buy property in the past and what am I doing to save my deposit today?







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0:00 - Introduction1:33 - Where I'm at now2:22 - My 1st Deposit (Age 16)5:21 - My 2nd Deposit (Age 25)8:47 - My 3rd Deposit (Age 28)12:05 - My 4th Deposit (Age 31)18:58 - Getting Out of Debt21:55 - Saving My 5th Deposit23:39 - Do I Regret Not Buying Property In The Past?25:00 - It's Never Too Late To Get Into Property26:30 - Building a Large Portfolio27:32 - Property strategy session=







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Ryan 0:00I might actually be able to buy a property my first investment property in just a couple of months, which is super exciting. I am finally saving my first house deposit. This is not the first deposit that I've saved, but Fingers crossed, this will be the one that will actually get me my first property. It is absolutely amazing what a difference a couple of years can make. In this episode, I want to take you on the journey of the deposits that I've saved in the past which I've actually saved quite a few and never purchased property. why I did that? Do I regret it? Because, you know, I could have purchased property probably around 15 years ago, which obviously would have grown But why didn't I What happened? And then what am I doing to save my deposit today. So grab yourself a tea or coffee or water and settling because it is storytime This is my journey. This has been a long journey and an arduous journey. But hopefully this will encourage you to go out there and to say that, even if it doesn't happen overnight, if we have a plan, if we strategize if we work towards it, we can get there eventually. And we can have an amazing life along the way, which I actually think is more important than buying the properties. I think the most important thing is having the amazing life, you buy properties as an insurance policy to give you financial freedom to give you choices in order to do that. So now I'm saving my deposit probably got around about the 15 to $25,000 put aside for property, I'm looking at buying something around about 350 to $450,000, with maybe a five to 10% deposit. So I probably need anywhere from around 17 and a half 1000 up to $45,000 for a deposit plus stamp duty and closing costs. So you're looking at another what maybe 1015 $20,000 in order to save for those closing costs. So I'm actually not too far away from purchasing my first property, hopefully in a couple of months. But let's go back and look over my life and see what got me to this point. Why haven't I bought property yet? What sort of things have I done along the way? So my first deposit was saved before I was 18. So I remember going driving out to Lythgoe with my dad at age 16 I had around $20,000 in cash, looking at properties around about the $100,000. Mark. So you're looking at 10 to 15% deposit plus closing costs there. I had the money in order to do that. So looking at those properties. The thing that was difficult for me at that time, being so young, only having a part time job was just serviceability, right. I couldn't get a loan in order to purchase these properties. And that really held me back at that time.

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We are so often told that if we want the best capital growth our property needs to be close to amenities. Good school, train stations and shopping centers or other public transport are often touted as key indicators of future growth.







But what does the data actually say about the affect of amenities on the capital growth of a suburb? The results from this one are extremely surprising.







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0:00 - Introduction1:40 - Key idea: Price has already factored in existing amenities, which does NOT lead to more growth4:00 - How expansion of Brisbane airport affected prices short and long term4:45 - Do train stations affect capital growth7:55 - Be careful of starting and ending points of statistics8:30 - Do school affect capital growth11:00 - How do beaches affect capital growth12:55 - How does proximity to shops affect capital growth13:58 - How does walkscore affect capital growth?21:24 - What do we do with this data?26:04 - Price variability over time







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Ryan 0:00We're often told that when you're buying a property to get the best capital growth, the best return on investment, you want to look for properties that are close to amenities close to really good schools, close to shops and shopping centers, close to public transport. How many times have you heard people say, you know, this is a great suburb because it's got all of these factors in it. But as an investor, what we care about is the return on our investment, how much is that property going to grow? How is it going to perform? And so is this actually important? And today, I've got with me, Jeremy Shepherd from select residential property to actually dive through the data on this one, yes, it makes logical sense that we want these amenities there. But does the data actually back up this idea that this is going to lead to higher than average capital growth? So I'm excited for this on Hey, Jeremy, how I







Jeremy 0:50can hire Ryan, Manuel, how are you?







Ryan 0:52Yes, very good. I'm looking to buy a property in the very near future. And this is obviously something that I'm thinking about and considering when looking at suburbs is to say, okay, what's the suburb? Like? What are the schools like in the suburbs? have close to the shops have close to the transport, basically, trying to get an idea of, you know, why would people want to live here? And will they want to live here in the future? And does it have those desirable things, but I'm thinking you're going to tell me something different given? You've done the data analysis, and there's an article on this?







Jeremy 1:26Yeah, good, good guess. Yeah, look, it's not a complete waste of time researching this sort of stuff. But there's, there's a very clear caveat to it. It's not automatic, that if you're buying in a suburb with good schools, shops, transport, all those amenities, that you're going to get above average capital growth. The key is whether that amenity is new or old. So the whole principle here is that if the suburb has all these great amenities, then it should be that properties in that suburb are very expensive, because this is a desirable place to live. But the price has already factored in the benefit of those amenities being there. Let's say for example, you get a new train station that comes into the suburb, what's going to happen is the suburb is now more desirable, people start paying more to have that, that benefit of being within say, walking distances, TradeStation. But after a few years,

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Let's talk about bad debt and how to pay off debt. I'm so grateful to say I am FINALLY in a position where I am debt free and now able to save a house.







But rewinding to 2-3 years ago that was not the situation I was in. I quickly got into around $100,000 worth of debt. Here's how I managed to pay it off in such a short period of time.







0:00 - Introduction2:05 - #1: Write Down ALL My Debts3:26 - #2: Accept Where You Are3:48 - #3: Write Down All My Assets To Know My Net Position4:20 - #4: Calculate Minimum Required Payments5:37 - #5: Cut Spending DRASTICALLY7:23 - #6: Increase Your Income10:20 - #7: Keep Expenses Low Even As Income Increases11:19 - #8: Create a Buffer Fund14:04 - #9: Have Great People Around You







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Ryan 0:00Let's talk about debt. Let's talk about bad debt. And let's talk about how to pay off debt. I'm so grateful to say that I am finally, finally, in a position that I am debt free and actually saving towards a deposit for a house. And I found out yesterday that I may actually even have most of my deposit ready and be able to go way faster than I thought. But if you rewind to about two, two and a half years ago, that was not the situation that I was in, I quickly got into a lot of debt, around $100,000 worth of debt once it was all tallied up. And let me tell you, that is a scary, scary figure. So in this episode, I want to talk about the things that I did to get out of such a significant amount of debt debt that was crippling debt that nearly sent me bankrupt. And so if you have bad debt and your life, whether it be as bad as me, or maybe just some credit card debt that you want to get rid of, what are some things that you can do to start to remove that debt, and actually get ahead in life? Hey, I'm Ryan from OnProperty, helping you on your journey to financial freedom. I'm currently at the beautiful garden falls on the Sunshine Coast. And it's taken me a lot of heartache, and a lot of hard work to get here. But I'm excited to share this story with you. I have been financially free through my businesses twice now been in extreme amount of debt and been able to pay that off. And I'm now saving towards my first property, which I should hopefully purchase this year. But if you're in this situation like I was in when you're in debt, how did I go about actually paying that off? and wiping that debt completely? Because I didn't do what everyone told me I should do. I actually tackled this my own way in a way that was true to myself. And I'm obviously really happy with the result having cleared that debt in just two years, but not just cleared it but also created financial freedom through my businesses, again in that two year period. So what did I do that was different? And what can you take away from this? Well, the very first thing that I did was actually sat down and wrote down all of my debts, I lived in denial for a little while thinking, Okay, now I just need to get by, I was going through a married separation. So there's a lot emotionally happening for me, I wasn't ready to write down my debts and deal with that. So I just kind of swept it under the rug, didn't think about it, and was just kind of going on in life. But one day, I remember sitting down in my dad's garage, which was my office at the time, line by line, I went through every debt that I owed from existing debt that I had payment plans on to money that I owed family members to future tax that I would have to pay, which I knew was debt that just wasn't quite jus just yet. I wrote it all down. And it was extremely overwhelming to realize that I was around $100,000 in debt,

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We are often told to get the best capital growth we should buy the more premium and expensive suburbs and avoid the cheaper suburbs.People things suburbs are cheap for a reason and are going to stay cheap.







But is this actually true? Do cheaper suburbs actually underperform compared to more expensive suburbs.







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0:00 - Introduction1:23 - Why are cheaper suburbs cheaper2:59 - Cheap vs Expensive Growth Australia Wide5:26 - Cheap vs Expensive in Regions7:00 - Cheap vs Expensive in Smaller Regions8:30 - Cheaper suburbs always perform better no matter which way you look at it9:05 - Cheapest vs Cheaper vs Dearer vs Dearest12:00 - Cheap vs Expensive in Major Capital Cities13:17 - Looking at Deciles15:00 - Looking at a 40 year period16:30 - Cheap vs Expensive Yield17:13 - Why buying cheaper properties could be better than more expensive properties







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Ryan 0:00We're often told in order to get the best return on investment when buying property that we should buy the more expensive suburbs, the more premium suburbs with the idea being that people in the suburbs maybe have more money. And so I know property's going to grow faster. But what about cheap suburbs? People often think, okay, they're cheaper reason, and they're probably going to stay cheap. But is that actually true to cheap suburbs, underperformed compared to more expensive suburbs? Or is the opposite actually true? So today, I have with me, Jeremy Shepherd from select residential property to actually look through the data and to say, should we be investing in the more expensive suburbs? Or should we be investing in the cheapest other? So hey, Jeremy, thanks for coming on today.







Jeremy 0:43Thanks for having me.







Ryan 0:45Yeah, this one is really close to home at the moment, because I have saved my deposit, I'm looking to invest in the next few months, three to six months, and looking at different options in South Brisbane for me, but there's the cheapest suburbs, you know, kind of around $350,000 that I can get into with a lower deposit, or there's more expensive suburbs looking at 450 to 550, where obviously, I need a bigger deposit. And so I'm kind of arming an iron between the two. So it'll be interesting to go through this and to see, okay, what could be better?







Jeremy 1:19Yeah, well, first of all, they don't underperform. So they're cheap for a reason is true. They are cheaper because they don't have all the nice things that the expensive suburbs have. But that doesn't mean that they underperform just being expensive, doesn't mean that you've had better capital growth. And I think that there's this mistake, mistaken belief that if a suburb is expensive, how did it get there, maybe it had better capital growth, but it's always been more expensive. And there's this correlation between proximity to CBD and higher prices for suburbs close to the CBD in the map, major capitals more expensive than the suburbs get. But they've always been like that they've always been more expensive. And as property investors were not interested in whether our properties is is cheaper, expensive, but whether it has a capital growth, that's the that's what we're after.







Ryan 2:11And exactly right. Because let's say I'm going to invest a million dollars over the next couple of years into property or buy a million dollars worth of property,