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In this lively episode of the Identity at the Center podcast, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman kick things off with a humorous mishap involving Jim's tech setup before diving into the latest happenings. They discuss the sweltering summer heat, Jim's recent "Greatest Dad of All Time" award, and their upcoming plans for Identity Week in Washington, DC.

The highlight of the episode is a deep dive into the concept of "Federation Bubbles" with special guest Justin Richer, Security and Standards Architect and Founder of Bespoke Engineering. Justin explains the idea behind federation bubbles, a dynamic system designed to handle identity management in disconnected or disadvantaged environments. They explore real-world applications, such as military operations and disaster recovery scenarios, where traditional identity systems fall short.

Justin also shares updates on his recent work, including the GNAP protocol and HTTP Message Signatures, and his involvement with the IETF's new working group, WIMSE (Workload Identity in Multi-System Environments). The conversation touches on the challenges and potential of these emerging identity standards, as well as the importance of context and trust in identity management.

The episode wraps up on a lighter note with a discussion about Justin's board game project, "Natturuval" and the latest edition of "Cards Against Identity."

Connect with Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinricher/

Learn more about Bespoke Engineering: https://bspk.io/

Workload Identity in Multi System Environments (WIMSE): https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/wimse/about/

SPIFFE: https://spiffe.io

Natturuval: https://gamefound.com/en/projects/bespoke-games/natturuval

Cards Against Identity: https://bspk.io/games/cards/

Attending Identity Week in Europe, America, or Asia? Use our discount code IDAC30 for 30% off your registration fee! Learn more at:


Europe: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week/
America: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america
Asia: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-asia/

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

🔑 Episode Keywords

Podcasting Equipment, Identity Management, Conference Recording, Summer Heat, Air Conditioning, Traveling For Work, Hotel Wifi, Father's Day Award, Identity Week Conference, Discount Code, Washington, Dc, Sandwich Shop Potbelly, Holocaust Museum, Uber Ether, Department Of Defense, Federation Bubbles, Workload Identity, Ietf Working Group, Spiffy Protocol, Board Game Natturuval

In this engaging episode of the Identity at the Center podcast, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman sit down with special guest Joni Brennan, President at the Digital ID and Authentication Council of Canada (DIACC). They dive deep into the intricacies of digital wallets, the evolving landscape of digital identity, and the importance of choice and trust in identity solutions. Joni shares her insights from the European Identity & Cloud Conference (EIC) and discusses the significance of the Pan-Canadian Trust Framework in de-risking digital identity adoption.

The conversation covers a wide range of topics, including the challenges of standardizing digital wallets, the role of certification in building trust, and the importance of user choice in identity solutions. Joni also provides a fascinating look into her career journey and the evolution of identity standards from the days of the Liberty Alliance to the present.

The episode wraps up with a fun discussion on underrated music acts, highlighting the hosts' and guest's diverse musical tastes.

Connect with Joni: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonibrennan

Learn more about the Digital Identification and Authentication Council of Canada (DIACC): https://diacc.ca/

Pan-Canadian Trust Framework: https://diacc.ca/trust-framework/

Digital Identity Perspectives Research: https://diacc.ca/2023/04/20/canadians-continue-to-demand-transparency-and-control-over-personal-data/

Our Public Trust Forum Report: https://diacc.ca/2023/10/31/securing-canadas-digital-prosperity-building-trust-in-verification-and-credentials-is-a-shared-imperative/

DIACC's Trust Talks & Digital Dives podcast: https://diacc.ca/podcasts/

Attending Identity Week in America, or Asia? Use our discount code IDAC30 for 30% off your registration fee! Learn more at:


America: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america
Asia: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-asia/

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

🔑 Episode Keywords

Digital Identity, Authentication, Authorization, Digital Wallets, Identity Management, Iam, Saml, Federation, Digital Trust, Verifiable Credentials, Identity Verification, Identity Proofing, Digital Economy, Risk Management, Trust Framework, Podcast, Identity Standards, Ai In Identity, Identity Ecosystem, Privacy And Security

In this episode of the Identity at the Center podcast, hosts Jeff and Jim return from Identiverse 2024 and share their experiences from the conference held in Las Vegas. They discuss notable moments, including unique conference swag and memorable interactions. Special guest Adam Michael, CISO and adjunct professor at Texas A&M University, joins the conversation to discuss the evolution of identity management to identity security at the university. Adam delves into the complexities of managing identity in a higher education environment and shares insights on implementing DevOps practices. The episode covers topics like AI's impact on teaching, infrastructure as code, ROI of identity security projects, and the challenges and benefits of centralizing IT services.

Connect with Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amikeal/

The Phoenix Project (book): https://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-Project-DevOps-Helping-Business/dp/0988262592

Attending Identity Week in Europe, America, or Asia? Use our discount code IDAC30 for 30% off your registration fee! Learn more at:


Europe: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week/
America: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america
Asia: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-asia/

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

🔑 Episode Keywords

Higher Education, Identity Security, Devops, Iam, Identity Management, Identity Governance, Zero Trust, Texas A&M University, Identity Infrastructure, Digital Identity, Cybersecurity, Cloud Technology, Commercial Identity Systems, Identity Authentication, Federated Identity, Identity Lifecycle, Identity Verification, Identity Apis, Identity And Access Management, Identity Solutions

In this engaging episode, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman wrap up their Identiverse 2024 experience with a thought-provoking panel discussion. Joined by Alex Bovee, CEO and Co-Founder of ConductorOne; Ian Glazer, Founder and President of Weave Identity; and Lance Peterman, Identity Lead at Dick's Sporting Goods and Professor at UNC Charlotte, the conversation dives deep into the future of identity management.

The panel explores the concept of Zero Standing Privileges (ZSP) as the evolution of least privilege, discussing its feasibility, operational challenges, and the maturity curve required for organizations to adopt such a model. Ian shares his perspective on the future of identity governance, while Alex and Lance provide insights into practical implementations and the role of automation in achieving ZSP. The discussion also touches on the importance of context, policy, and the need for better data orchestration to make identity management more effective.

Tune in for an insightful conversation on the next frontier of identity management and the steps needed to get there.

Connect with Alex Bovee - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexbovee/

Learn about ConductorOne - https://www.conductorone.com/?utm_source=identityatthecenter&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=c1-brand⁠

Connect with Ian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iglazer/

Learn about Weave Identity - https://weaveidentity.com/

Connect with Lance - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lancepeterman/

Attending Identity Week in Europe, America, or Asia? Use our discount code IDAC30 for 30% off your registration fee! Learn more at:


Europe: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week/
America: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america
Asia: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-asia/

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com and watch at https://www.youtube.com/@idacpodcast

🔑 Episode Keywords

Zero Standing Privileges, Identity Management, Access Control, Automation In Identity, Identity Governance, Privileged Access Management, Cybersecurity, Identity And Security Professionals, Identity Maturity Curve, Identity At The Center, Role-Based Access Control (Rbac), Identity And Access Management (Iam), Identity Protocols, Identity Fabric, Identity Data Orchestration, Ephemeral Access, Identity Automation, Identity Governance And Administration (Iga), Identity Signals, Identity Policy Construction

In this episode, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman welcome Andrew Shikiar, Executive Director & CEO at the FIDO Alliance, for his 7th appearance on the Identity at the Center Podcast. They discuss what's new with the FIDO alliance and what to expect from the upcoming Authenticate event. The conversation also includes some yet to be determined topics. Don't miss out on this insightful discussion!

In this episode of Identity at the Center, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman sit down with Andrew Shakira, Executive Director of the FIDO Alliance, at Identiverse 2024. They explore the myths and realities of FIDO adoption in the banking sector, discuss the growth and impact of the FIDO Alliance, and delve into the latest developments in passwordless authentication and passkeys.

Andrew shares insights into how FIDO is reducing identity-related fraud and the role of certifications in ensuring security and interoperability. The conversation also covers the importance of usability in multi-factor authentication (MFA) and the challenges and opportunities of implementing FIDO in various environments, from first responders to prisons.

The episode wraps up with a look ahead to the Authenticate conference, emphasizing the collaborative and supportive nature of the identity community. Tune in for a comprehensive discussion on the state of identity authentication and the future of passwordless security.

Connect with Andrew: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewshikiar/

Learn more about the FIDO Alliance: https://fidoalliance.org/

Attending Identity Week in Europe, America, or Asia? Use our discount code IDAC30 for 30% off your registration fee! Learn more at:


Europe: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week/
America: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america
Asia: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-asia/

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com and watch at https://www.youtube.com/@idacpodcast

🔑 Episode Keywords

Identity Management, Fido Alliance, Passkeys, Cybersecurity, Biometric Authentication, User Experience, Identity Fraud, Compliance, Multi-Factor Authentication, Identiverse 2024, Certification, Fdic Guidelines, Digital Identity, Authentication Standards, Connected Devices, Security Keys, Identity Verification, Liveness Detection, Technology Adoption, Cyber Risk

In this episode, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman are live from Identiverse 2024, where they catch up with old friends and meet new faces. They dive into the highlights of the conference, including the overwhelming support from listeners and the buzz around Jim's infamous jacket.

Joining them are Ian Glazer, Arynn Crow, and Allan Foster from the Digital Identity Advancement Foundation (DIAF), along with Kim Cameron Award winners Sophie Bennani-Taylor and Matthew Spence. The discussion covers the mission of DIAF, the impact of the Kim Cameron Award, and the personal journeys of Sophie and Matthew in the digital identity space.

Listeners get a glimpse into the experiences of the award winners at Identiverse, their thoughts on digital identity, and their favorite moments from the conference. The episode wraps up with fun anecdotes about their time in Las Vegas, including an escape room adventure and culinary highlights.

Learn more about the Digital Identity Advancement Foundation (DIAF) and how you can contribute - https://diaf.link/donate

Ian Glazer - https://www.linkedin.com/in/iglazer/

Arynn Crow - https://www.linkedin.com/in/arynn-crow-821761103/

Allan Foster - https://www.linkedin.com/in/allanfoster/

Kim Cameron award recipients:

Sophie Bennani-Taylor - https://www.linkedin.com/in/0sophie-taylor/

Matthew Spence - https://www.linkedin.com/in/spence-m/

TechCongress - https://www.techcongress.io/congressional-innovation-fellowship

Jim’s Jacket - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZD8NGWZ

Attending Identity Week in Europe, America, or Asia? Use our discount code IDAC30 for 30% off your registration fee! Learn more at:


Europe: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week/
America: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america
Asia: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-asia/

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com and watch at https://www.youtube.com/@idacpodcast

🔑 Episode Keywords

Digital Identity, Iam, Cybersecurity, Diaf, Kim Cameron Award, Digital Identity Advancement Foundation, Identiverse, Rsm Cyber Risk Alliance, Identity Conference, Technology Policy, Cybersecurity Education, Digital Sociology, Tech Congress, Digital Ethics, Identity Enablement, Professional Networking, Digital Identity Standards, Identity Innovation, Digital Id World Conference, Identity Community