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    Storylines & Predictions for NXT Battleground

    Storylines & Predictions for NXT Battleground

    NXT Battleground is coming up with several matches booked. The first match discussed is Gallows and Anderson vs. Axiom and Nathan Frazier for the tag team titles. It is predicted that Axiom and Frazier will retain the titles. The second match is a six-woman ladder match for the Women's North American Championship. Lash Legend, So Ruka, Mi-Chen, and Fallon are the top contenders, with Mi-Chen predicted to win. The third match is a triple threat for the NXT Men's North American Championship. Wesley and Joe Coffey will challenge Oba Femi, with Coffey predicted to win. The fourth match is a non-title bout between Shayna Baszler and Lola Vice, with Baszler predicted to win. NXT Battleground is approaching, and there are several intriguing storylines and matches to look forward to. The main event will feature Trick Williams defending his NXT Men's Championship against Ethan Page, who has made a surprising entrance into NXT. Another highly anticipated match is between Roxanne Perez and Jordan Grace for the NXT Women's Championship. There is also a women's North American Championship match between Mi Chen and Fallon. Shayna Baszler will face Lola Weiss in a highly personal feud, and Frazier and Axiom will defend their tag team championships. Overall, NXT Battleground promises to be an exciting event with potential title changes and intense rivalries.

    Takeaways



    Axiom and Nathan Frazier are likely to retain the tag team titles against Gallows and Anderson

    Mi-Chen is the top contender for the Women's North American Championship, but Fallon may win

    Joe Coffey is predicted to win the NXT Men's North American Championship

    Lola Vice is not seen as a threat in the non-title match against Shayna Baszler The feud between Shayna Baszler and Lola Weiss is intensifying, with Shayna being the dominant force and Lola relying on her MMA background.

    Roxanne Perez's reign as NXT Women's Champion is criticized for her constant complaints and avoidance of title defenses.

    Trick Williams and Ethan Page have a heated rivalry, with Ethan seeking to take the NXT Men's Championship from Trick.

    The potential winners at NXT Battleground include Frazier and Axiom retaining their championships, Joe Coffey becoming the men's North American champion, and either MiChIn or Fallon becoming the inaugural women's North American champion.




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    • 58 min
    LOST EPISODE: CHARACTER TROPES

    LOST EPISODE: CHARACTER TROPES

    Summary



    In this conversation, the hosts discuss wrestling tropes and the concept of variants in wrestling characters. They explore examples of wrestlers who can be considered variants of other wrestlers, such as Roman Reigns and Cody Rhodes. They also touch on the strong black woman trope in wrestling and mention wrestlers like Awesome Kong, Jacqueline, and Naomi. The conversation also covers the idea of fast-tracking in wrestling and the success of wrestlers like Sheamus and Seth Rollins. They briefly mention other wrestlers with many variants, such as Finn Balor and Shawn Michaels. The hosts emphasize the importance of letting wrestlers find their own paths and not expecting them to be the same. They also discuss body shaming in wrestling and the challenges of intense training. The conversation concludes with a mention of Becky Lynch's book and an upcoming NXT event. The conversation covers various topics related to wrestling, including the upcoming partnership between WWE and UFC, the frustration with the Peacock streaming service, and the potential winners of the King and Queen of the Ring tournaments. The hosts also discuss the different characters and variants in wrestling, emphasizing the importance of watching wrestling as a form of entertainment and not taking it too seriously.

    Takeaways



    Wrestling characters can be considered variants of other wrestlers, with similarities in appearance, character, or wrestling style.

    The strong black woman trope is prevalent in wrestling, with wrestlers like Awesome Kong, Jacqueline, and Naomi embodying this archetype.

    Fast-tracking can lead to quick success in wrestling, as seen with wrestlers like Sheamus and Seth Rollins.

    Body shaming in wrestling is harmful and unnecessary, and fans should focus on the talent and skills of the wrestlers.

    Wrestlers should be allowed to find their own paths and not be expected to be the same as others.

    Becky Lynch's book and an upcoming NXT event are mentioned as points of interest in the wrestling world. WWE is partnering with UFC for an upcoming pay-per-view event.

    There is frustration with the Peacock streaming service.

    The hosts discuss potential winners of the King and Queen of the Ring tournaments.

    They emphasize the importance of watching wrestling as a form of entertainment and not taking it too seriously.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Overview

    05:44 The Mean Girl Trope and Variants

    13:17 Exploring Different Variants in Wrestling

    37:01 Exploring Different Character Variations

    43:42 Comparing Wrestlers to Samples in Music








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    • 44 min
    Mercedes Mone' and AEW Come to the Front We Need to Talk

    Mercedes Mone' and AEW Come to the Front We Need to Talk

    Summary



    The conversation covers various matches and storylines in WWE, including King and Queen in the Ring, the Intercontinental Championship, and Logan Paul vs. Cody Rhodes. The hosts share their predictions and opinions on the matches. They also discuss the potential of Liv Morgan, the character work of Chad Gable, and the upcoming fight between Logan Paul and Tyson. The conversation touches on the business savvy of the Paul brothers and the scripted nature of boxing. Overall, the hosts express their excitement for upcoming events and their support for certain wrestlers. In this part of the conversation, the hosts discuss the upcoming King and Queen of the Ring tournaments in WWE. They predict the winners and express their thoughts on the competitors. They also talk about Mercedes Martinez in AEW and discuss her character and presentation. They share their opinions on her promos, outfits, and overall presence. The hosts suggest that she needs a stylist and a more cohesive character presentation. They also discuss other wrestlers in AEW and their ability to connect with the audience. The conversation discusses the issues with Sasha Banks' character in AEW and the overall problems with AEW's creative direction. It suggests that Sasha Banks needs to evolve her character and hire a stylist to reflect her persona. The conversation also highlights the lack of authenticity and structure in AEW, with too many people having creative control. It proposes that AEW needs consistency, order, and structure in their storylines and matches. WWE is praised for its ability to structure storylines and build new characters. The conversation concludes by mentioning upcoming appearances on other podcasts and promoting their social media accounts.



    Takeaways



    The hosts discuss various matches and storylines in WWE, sharing their predictions and opinions.

    They express their support for Liv Morgan and discuss her potential as a wrestler.

    The hosts appreciate the character work of Chad Gable and discuss his upcoming match.

    They talk about the upcoming fight between Logan Paul and Tyson and the scripted nature of boxing.

    Overall, the hosts express their excitement for upcoming events and their support for certain wrestlers. Predictions for the winners of the King and Queen of the Ring tournaments in WWE

    Discussion on Mercedes Martinez's character and presentation in AEW

    Suggestion for Mercedes Martinez to get a stylist and create a more cohesive character

    Comparison of wrestlers in AEW and their ability to connect with the audience

    Chapters



    00:00 Crying over job loss and resilience

    02:39 Introduction and focus on AEW

    03:28 Upcoming WWE events

    04:16 King and Queen in the Ring match predictions

    11:14 Intercontinental Championship match discussion

    25:59 Predicting the Winners of the King and Queen of the Ring Tournaments

    31:50 Analyzing Mercedes Martinez's Character and Presentation in AEW

    38:25 The Importance of a Stylist and Cohesive Character

    52:36 Comparing Wrestlers' Ability to Connect with the Audience in AEW




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    • 1 hr 33 min
    Current Events & SOCIAL MEDIA'S EFFECTS ON MODERN WRESTLING FT. WE LUV WRESTLING

    Current Events & SOCIAL MEDIA'S EFFECTS ON MODERN WRESTLING FT. WE LUV WRESTLING

    Summary



    In this episode, Nicole, Alexis, Tiff, and Trey discuss various topics related to wrestling. They talk about Becky Lynch's book becoming a New York Times bestseller and their plans to read it. They also discuss the upcoming WWE draft and speculate on which wrestlers might be moved to different brands. They touch on the impact of social media on modern wrestling, both positive and negative. Overall, they have a fun and lively conversation about the current state of wrestling. The conversation explores the impact of social media on wrestling and the potential benefits of wrestlers being on platforms like Netflix. They discuss the importance of wrestlers finding a balance in their online presence and managing parasocial relationships with fans. They also mention wrestlers like Bailey, Big E, Liv Morgan, and The Bella Twins who have a positive online presence. The conversation touches on the potential of wrestlers like Drew McIntyre and Kevin Owens using social media to further storylines and create better feuds. They also speculate on which wrestlers could benefit from being on Netflix, including Bianca Belair, LA Knight, Randy Orton, and The New Day. The conversation covers various topics related to WWE, including the tag team titles, the upcoming championship match, and the controversy surrounding Javon Evans. The hosts express their opinions on these subjects and discuss the emotional moments in wrestling. They also mention Meek Mill's involvement in WrestleMania and share their final thoughts.






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    • 1 hr 20 min
    WRESTLEMANIA NIGHT 2

    WRESTLEMANIA NIGHT 2

    Summary



    The conversation covers various matches and moments from a wrestling event, including the Undertaker's retirement, Cody winning with the help of others, Seth's match, and Bailey's victory. The speakers express their opinions on the matches, the wrestlers' performances, and their hair choices. They also discuss the involvement of Logan Paul and the overall enjoyment of the event. Night 2 of WrestleMania was highly praised, with a fast-paced and entertaining lineup of matches. The main event between Roman Reigns and Cody Rhodes was particularly emotional and well-executed. The long reign of Roman Reigns as champion was acknowledged, with appreciation for his portrayal of a true villain. The presence of legends like The Undertaker and The Rock added to the excitement. Stephanie McMahon made an appearance, and the crowd showed their support for Cody Rhodes. Overall, Night 2 received an A+ rating.


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    • 1 hr 13 min
    WRESTLEMANIA 40 NIGHT 1

    WRESTLEMANIA 40 NIGHT 1

    Summary



    Night one of WrestleMania was a mixed bag, with some good matches and some disappointing ones. The standout matches included Becky Lynch vs. Rhea Ripley and Andrade vs. Santos. The tag team match between The Bloodline and The Rock & Cody was chaotic and didn't live up to expectations. The show was rated a C- overall. The main event between Roman Reigns and Cody is predicted to result in Cody winning the title. The night ended with a feeling of anticipation for night two.



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    • 44 min

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