Relationship Truth: Unfiltered Leslie Vernick

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Today, Julie & Leslie are exploring how some of your best qualities and highest Christian virtues can make you a target for toxic individuals. Have you ever wondered why you seem to attract destructive people despite your kind heart and good intentions? This episode will help you understand and transform how you navigate relationships, allowing you to embrace your strengths while safeguarding your heart.
People Pleasing:People pleasers are often generous and eager to make others happy, which can make them susceptible to manipulation. Without the ability to say no, people pleasers may find themselves overextended and exploited. Learn to buy time before committing and practice saying no without guilt.
Loyalty:Loyalty is a noble trait, reflecting a commitment to relationships. However, blind loyalty can lead to staying in harmful relationships with habitual liars or abusers. Pair loyalty with discernment and wisdom to know when to break away from toxic situations.
Forgiveness:Forgiveness is a core Christian virtue, emphasizing grace and mercy. However, endless forgiveness without consequences can enable continued abuse or neglect. Healthy forgiveness includes justice and setting boundaries, ensuring there are consequences for harmful actions.
Forbearance:Forbearance promotes patience and tolerance, important in any relationship. Being passive and ignoring habitual sin or evil can be dangerous. Be intentional about forbearance and confront issues when necessary, following Ephesians 5:11 to expose deeds of darkness.
Kindness:Kindness reflects God's love and compassion. Niceness without boundaries can lead to being used and misused. Be kind but firm, setting limits on unacceptable behavior without compromising your values.
Selflessness:Selflessness mirrors Christ's sacrifice and service. Being overly selfless can lead to losing your identity and becoming an object in the relationship. Steward your life wisely, balancing self-care with serving others, and maintaining your individuality.
Trust:Trust is fundamental to any healthy relationship. Naive trust can lead to betrayal and harm. Trust with discernment, recognizing when someone is not trustworthy and acting accordingly.
As we discuss these virtues, remember that we are currently enrolling for Leslie’s Moving Beyond People Pleasing program. This course is designed to help you apply these principles in your life. Visit leslievernick.com/peoplepleasingcourse to learn more and register.
Final Thoughts:
Embrace your Christian virtues but pair them with wisdom and discernment to protect yourself from toxic individuals.
Taking care of yourself is not selfish, it’s stewardship. Prioritize your well-being to better serve others and fulfill your God-given potential.
Remember to consider the entire counsel of God, not just isolated verses, to guide your life and relationships.
Thank you for joining us today. We hope this conversation helps you navigate your relationships more wisely and embrace your strengths while safeguarding your heart. Until next time, take care and stay true to your values.
 

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In this episode of Relationship Truth: Unfiltered, Julie Sedenko talks with Jill, a woman navigating the complex journey of staying well in a challenging marriage. Jill shares her story of setting boundaries, seeking therapy, and balancing hope with vigilance. Her experiences provide valuable insights for anyone facing similar marital struggles. Tune in to hear Jill's candid account of the ongoing battle to maintain wellness in her relationship.
 
Introduction to Jill's Story:
Jill's background and the challenges she faced in her marriage.
Early signs of an emotionally unhealthy marriage.
Navigating Family Influences:
Impact of Jill's mother-in-law on her marriage.
Establishing boundaries with extended family.
Steps Towards Healing:
Seeking counseling and church community support.
Building a business together and navigating financial struggles with faith.
Challenges of Staying Well:
The constant effort required to maintain healthy boundaries.
Handling emotional triggers and setting consistent limits.
The difficulty of not reverting to old patterns of behavior.
Balancing hope for improvement with vigilance against setbacks.
Navigating emotional health within the family and maintaining stability for her children.
Recognizing and addressing codependency and manipulation in relationships.
Behavioral Changes in Marriage:
Positive changes in her husband's behavior and their communication patterns.
Significance of transparency and trust-building.
Final Thoughts and Advice:
Jill’s advice for women in similar situations.
Emphasizing the language of behavior and the importance of reflecting on personal responses.
 
 

In this episode Leslie and Julie dive into the complex topic of intent and its role in destructive relationships. They explore the distinction between deeply selfish actions and those stemming from misguided theology, mental or physical illness, or past traumas. The discussion highlights whether intent should influence how we process harm and respond within our marriages, even when unintentional damage occurs.
Key Points:

Intent vs. Impact:
The importance of recognizing that even unintentional actions can cause significant harm.
The need for restitution and justice regardless of intent.


Forgiveness and Amends:
The balance between forgiveness and the necessity for repair and restitution.


Addressing Harm in Marriage:
The importance of acknowledging and addressing the harm caused, even if unintentional.
The role of genuine repentance and changed behavior in rebuilding trust.


When to Stop Bringing Up Past Hurts:
The necessity of ongoing conversation and understanding the victim's perspective.
The difference between genuine repentance and dismissing the victim's feelings.


Trust and Safety in Relationships:
The critical role of trust and safety in maintaining a healthy marriage.
Examples of irreparable breaches of trust, such as adultery or financial deceit.


Mental Illness and Responsibility:
The balance between compassion for mental illness and maintaining personal boundaries.


Sacrificial Suffering and Boundaries:
The distinction between noble sacrifices and enabling harmful behavior.
The importance of not sacrificing one's well-being to enable another's worst behavior.


Recognizing True Change:
Identifying genuine changes in behavior and heart versus superficial compliance.
The importance of mutual care and respect in a truly healthy relationship.

Listener Takeaways:

Self-Worth and Dignity:
Understanding that a partner's indifference or cruelty is a reflection of their character, not your worth.
Embracing your value as an individual and image bearer of God.


Living in Reality:
The power of facing the truth about your relationship for making informed decisions.
The importance of personal growth and becoming your best self.

Resources:
Quick Start Guide: www.leslievernick.com/start

In this episode, Julie talks to Kay, a woman who adopted children later in life and dealt with a very destructive marriage. She knew from the beginning there were issues, but chose to try and make it work anyway. Learn from her mistakes and listen to the hope she has to offer.

RESOURCES:Quick Start Guide - www.leslievernick.com/startDomestic Violence Hotline:1.800.799.SAFE (7233)
In this episode of Relationship Truth: Unfiltered, Leslie sits down with Assistant District Attorney and Adjunct Professor, Molly Catherine Goodson to explore the intersection of faith, justice, and abuse. Molly Catherine shares personal journey and professional insights, discussing how her faith sustains her in this high-stakes role. She provides practical advice for victims of abuse, highlights the church's role in supporting and protecting them, and emphasizes the importance of empowering women within the church community.  Note: Molly Catherine is not representing the state of North Carolina in this episode.

Balancing a High-Stress Job and Personal Faith: Molly Catherine discusses how her faith helps her manage the stress and high stakes of her career, sharing the importance of worship music and the powerful prayer from her pastor that helps her stay grounded.


Maintaining Faith Amidst Evil: Leslie and Molly Catherine explore the challenge of maintaining faith in God's goodness despite witnessing daily evils, emphasizing the importance of viewing circumstances through the lens of God's character.


Biblical vs. Legal Justice: A discussion on the differences between biblical justice and legal justice, explaining that while Jesus takes on our sins, earthly actions still have consequences.


Forgiveness and Consequences: Addressing common misconceptions in churches that forgiveness erases consequences, stressing that actions have consequences and forgiveness does not negate the need for justice.


Empowering Women: Encouraging women to learn essential life skills to become less dependent on their abusers, highlighting the empowering effect of managing finances, household tasks, and other responsibilities.


Church Support for Victims: Practical ways churches can support victims of abuse, such as knowing local resources, helping with logistics, and offering emotional support. Emphasizing the church's role in ensuring the safety and well-being of individuals over maintaining relationships at all costs.


Hope and Redemption: Molly Catherine shares a hopeful story of a victim of sexual abuse within a church community and how proper support and handling of the case led to justice and healing.

RESOURCES:
Leslie's Quick Start Guide: www.leslievernick.com/start
If you'd like to ask a question for a future "Ask Leslie" episode, go to www.leslievernick.com/askleslie Questions in this episode:

Doesn’t there have to be infidelity, domestic violence or abandonment as a reason for divorce? 

8:51 What does it mean to detach and can I detach from my husband who shows contempt for me and dismisses my feelings and needs
23:56 How is empathy different from people pleasing?
27:47 What is a narcissist and how do we appropriately use this term?
37:33 What does chronic indifference look like in a relationship?