Who do we think we are?

Professor Michaela Benson
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Who do we think we are? Podcast

From Brexit and the COVID-19 pandemic, to the Windrush deportation scandal citizenship and the responsibilities of the UK government to the people of Hong Kong, it seems that citizenship and migration in Britain are never far from the headlines. Who do we think we are? explores all of this and more. Join Professor Michaela Benson and her guests as they debunk taken-for-granted understandings of who is a citizen and who is a migrant in Britain today.

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  1. Of Kings, Songs and Migrants

    EPISODE 1

    Of Kings, Songs and Migrants

    What does Eurovision have to do with the Coronation? We’re talking about what we learn about ‘Global Britain’ and its imagined community from looking at how migrants understand major cultural events. Elena Zambelli explains what social scientists mean when they talk about the imagined community. Laura Clancy, sociologist of the royal family, joins us to talk about the missing voices in conversations about the future of the British monarchy. Co-hosts Nando Sigona and Michaela Benson reflect on what British citizens living abroad, EU citizens and others who have made the UK their homes told them about how they understand Britain and their place within it following Brexit. And consider what hearing from them about the monarchy, the Commonwealth Games and Eurovision makes visible about the new borders of political membership and symbolic boundaries of belonging.  You can access the full transcripts for each episode over on our website Who do we think we are?   In this episode we cover … 1               The imagined community 2               The monarchy and the myth of the British nation 3               Eurovision, the Commonwealth Games and Royal Events   Active listening questions What imagined community, or imagined communities, do you feel that you belong to?   Are there public events during which you do or could celebrate your belonging to this or these communities? Which ones?  Who do you think is excluded from this imagined community and how? And what does this tell us about the symbolic boundaries of this community?   Find more about …  What EU citizens in the UK and British citizens in the EU think about the monarchy in Elena and Catherine’s article in the Sociological Review Magazine   The concept of imagined community in Benedict Anderson’s Imagined Communities and the critique offered by Partha Chatterjee’s The Nation and its Fragments   Laura’s sociology of the royal family in her book Running the family firm and the Surviving Society podcast miniseries The Global Power of the British Monarchy   Our podcast picks for this episode are:   Academic Aunties on ‘Harry and Meghan’ The Allusionist on Eurovision Coversations with IRiS on Political Demography   Call to action Follow the podcast on all major podcasting platforms or through our RSS Feed.  Get all the latest updates from the MIGZEN research project  on Twitter and Instagram Follow Who do we think we are? on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook.

    46 min
  2. S3 E2 Free Movement, limited

    EPISODE 2

    S3 E2 Free Movement, limited

    We’re talking Freedom of Movement, its role in the formation of an EU–wide imagined community, and the experiences of people who have lost their FOM rights due to Brexit. Catherine Craven explains what we mean when we talk about Freedom of Movement within the EU, its institutional underpinnings and social implications. Elspeth Guild, legal scholar and counsel, joins us to talk about the history and evolution of Free Movement rights within the EU, what Freedom of Movement does for Europeans and the meaning of EU citizenship, as well as the significance of the external EU border and the politicisation of asylum in the story of EU Free Movement. Nando and Michaela reflect on changes to who moves within Europe, how mobility within the EU relates to feelings of identity and belonging, as well as the inequalities that exist amongst EU citizens when they exercise Free Movement rights, and the impact of Brexit on those people who have lost their rights to FOM since Brexit. You can access the full transcripts for each episode over on our website  Who do we think we are? In this episode we cover … 1               Freedom of Movement 2               EU citizenship, identity and belonging 3               What Brexit and the loss of FOM has meant for British citizens in the EU and EU citizens in the UK Active listening questions How would you describe Freedom of Movement? What factors might shape people’s experience of moving within the EU? And relatedly, what challenges or opportunities might people face when they move within the EU? What role does migration play in creating and maintaining a ‘community of Europeans’? In what ways has Brexit changed how you - your family & friends - can move to or within the EU? Find more about …  How migration and asylum relate to the “European way of life” from Elspeth’s article in the European Law Journal   How British People of Colour experience Brexit in Michaela Benson and Chantelle Lewis’ article in Ethnic and Racial Studies.   What Brexit means for British citizens in the EU-27 in this short animation   What place has got to do with identifying as European in this piece on Brexit, emotions and belonging by Nando Sigona and Marie Godin   And why is London the (best) place to be for Roma? Watch this short video   MIGZEN research  on European belongings and political participation beyond Brexit.   Our podcast picks ... Brexit Brits Abroad: Social mobility, free movement and the impermanance of citizenship rights Borders & Belonging – How has Brexit changed the UK for Migrants? Free Movement on  EU Settled Status Call to action Follow the podcast on all major podcasting platforms or through our RSS Feed.  Get all the latest updates from the MIGZEN research project  on Twitter and Instagram Follow Who do we think we are? on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook.

    46 min
  3. S3 E3 Bye, Bye Britain

    EPISODE 3

    S3 E3 Bye, Bye Britain

    Understandings of migration are invariably reduced to immigration, framed by the policy agenda of receiving states. But what about the people who leave? And why does it matter that we remember, as French-Algerian sociologist Abdelmalek Sayad stressed, that ‘every immigrant is also an emigrant’?   From the role of emigration in the making of the British empire and other European colonial powers to its neglect in public and political conversations about migration today, this episode explores what is opened up when we turn the spotlight onto those leaving the sovereign territory of a nation. Elena Zambelli explains what we mean when we talk about emigration. Mukti Jain Campion, founder of the independent production company Culture Wise, reminds us of the relationship between emigration and the making of the British Empire. Nando and Michaela reflect on why we need to talk about emigration today. We look into how states engage with emigration from its role in net migration figures through to policies and concerns over brain drains. And we turn to consider who is leaving Britain today, drawing on what British citizens and EU nationals taking part in our research told us about the significance of Brexit to their emigration decisions.   You can access the full transcripts for each episode over on our website Who do we think we are?   In this episode we cover …    Emigration and colonisation  Leaving Britain today  Brexit and Brits Abroad  Active listening questions   Do you have any family members who have emigrated from their country of origin? What do you know about their reasons for leaving?  What do you think understanding emigration can add to our understandings of migration?   What is the relationship between British emigration and British colonialism? And how does this shape the experiences of British citizens emigrating today? What relationship does your country have with its citizens who have moved abroad?   Hear more from Michaela and Mukti about British emigrants today   Learn about The Migration Museum’s Departures exhibition   Explore the Brexit testimonies of British citizens living in the EU  Our podcast picks ...  Departures – 400 Years of Emigration from Britain   BBC Radio 3 Free Thinking, Emigration   Bad Bridgets Podcast   Call to action    Follow the podcast on all major podcasting platforms or through our RSS Feed.   Get all the latest updates from the MIGZEN research project  on Twitter and Instagram  Follow Who do we think we are? on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook.

    49 min
  4. S3 E4 A New Plan for Migration?

    EPISODE 4

    S3 E4 A New Plan for Migration?

    What’s changed in the UK’s approach to migration since Brexit? How has this impacted on migration flows? Who is and isn’t migrating to the UK ? In A New Plan for Migration? we consider the shape and structure of the UK’s regulation and governance of migration since leaving the European Union. Catherine Craven explains what we mean when we talk about Migration Regimes, and shows how this works in practice. Barrister, author and Founder of Free Movement Law Colin Yeo, shares his thoughts on what has and hasn’t changed in terms of laws and policies on UK immigration since Brexit. And our presenters Michaela Benson and Nando Sigona consider the politicisation of migration, and how this is reflected in rhetoric and the framing of new legislation, policy and guidelines, and what EU citizens in the UK and British citizens in the EU have to say about it. And they ask the question is the post Brexit regime just? You can access the full transcripts for each episode over on our website Who do we think we are?  In this episode we cover …  Migration regimes  New plan for migration  Post-Brexit borders and immigration controls Active listening questions:  How would you define a migration regime?  What do migration regimes do for states?  In what ways has the UK’s migration regime changed since Brexit, if at all?   Find out more about …  Why some migrants are deemed more deserving than others in Global Britain in Michaela and Nando’s piece for Open Democracy   The injustices inherent in the UK’s current immigration system from Colin’s book Welcome to Britain: Fixing Our Broken Immigration System  An early call for the institution of a fair global migration regime in this article by Stephen Castles   Podcast recommendations:  Colin on the Politico podcast: Westminster Insider: Can Rishi Sunak ‘Stop the boats’?   Listen to the Free Movement podcast for regular updates and commentaries on UK immigration law  Check this episode of WDWTWA Beyond the Headlines where Colin joined Michaela and Ala Sirriyeh to discuss Suella Braverman  Call to action   Follow the podcast on all major podcasting platforms or through our RSS Feed.   Get all the latest updates from the MIGZEN research project  on Twitter and Instagram  Follow Who do we think we are? on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook.

    50 min

  5. EPISODE 5

    S3 E5 Migration, diaspora, diplomacy

    What role do diplomacy and the power play between states play in the development of migration policy? And how can turning our attention to the significance of foreign policy within migration governance help us in understanding the post-Brexit migration regime in the UK?   In this jam-packed episode, we consider how foreign policy and geopolitics shapes migration and mobility regimes. Catherine Craven explains what we mean when we talk about migration diplomacy. Fiona Adamson, Professor of International Relations at SOAS, invites us to think about how migration and diaspora feature in inter-state relations, with a particular focus on the EU. Through the discussion of the UK’s new humanitarian visas and the citizens’ negotiations, Nando and Michaela reflect on the relationship between migration diplomacy and the UK’s shifting position on the world stage after Brexit.   You can access the full transcripts for each episode over on our website Who do we think we are?     In this episode we cover …    Migration diplomacy and the geopolitics of migration  Hong Kong BN(O) and Ukraine Visa schemes  Brexit and the citizens’ rights negotiations    Active listening questions   What does ‘migration diplomacy’ mean?  What actors do and can engage in migration diplomacy?  What diplomatic instruments can states use to govern international migration?  Which new visa routes and trade and mobility agreements has Britain negotiated and/or implemented since Brexit?     Find more about …    The uses of Migration Diplomacy in World Politics   Why migration deals such as the Rwanda plan are here to stay  How the UK’s exit from the EU turned the Mediterranean ‘refugee crisis’ into a British ‘border crisis’      Our podcast picks ...   Explore background debates and concepts in International Relations theory more generally at Whiskey and International Relations Theory   Hong Kong BN(O) visa scheme  NPR’s Throughline on Hong Kong     Call to action   Follow the podcast on all major podcasting platforms or through our RSS Feed.   Get all the latest updates from the MIGZEN research project  on Twitter and Instagram  Follow Who do we think we are? on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook.

    54 min
  6. S3 E6 Migrant Rights 2.0

    EPISODE 6

    S3 E6 Migrant Rights 2.0

    Borders around the world are becoming increasingly digitised. But who does the digitisation of borders serve? How are these technologies related to state-led projects of securitisation and surveillance? And what do digital bordering practices mean for migrants, migrant rights and advocacy?    In this episode we lift the lid on digital bordering. We debunk political rhetoric about how these make border control more efficient to consider what the increasing use of such technologies of border control makes visible about bordering as a practice and process around the world today. Elena Zambelli considers what we mean when we talk about digital borders and shows it is linked to the increasing precarity of legal status among migrants. Kuba Jablonowski, Lecturer in Sociology at the University of Bristol joins us with a case study that brings all of this to life: the digital and online only roll out of the EU Settled Status Scheme (EUSS) in the UK, how this was framed by the priorities of the Home Office, the consequences for EU nationals, including the racial discrimination produced through its implementation. And Nando and Michaela turn their attention to how those taking part on our research experienced such statuses, how this links to Hostile Environment, and the challenges that this presents for migrant rights and advocacy.   You can access the full transcripts for the episode, further resources and active listening questions over on our website: Who do we think we are?

    44 min
  7. S3 E7 Families at the borders

    EPISODE 7

    S3 E7 Families at the borders

    What happens when borders cross families? How do families navigate these interruptions to their ability to live together? This episode considers what shifting perspective to families opens up to view in terms of thinking about the work of borders and their impact on people’s everyday lives. Helena Wray, Professor of Migration Law at the University of Exeter, explains the historical development of family migration laws and what these make visible about the racialization of the nation and its political community. Elena Zambelli explains what a ‘mixed-status family’ is, and the many ways in which states may affect its members’ everyday lives and future imaginings. And co-hosts Nando Sigona and Michaela Benson consider how the state’s regulation of family migrations is linked to the reproduction of the nation state, and draw on data collected within the MIGZEN project to show the effects of Brexit on British-European families.  You can access the full transcripts for the episode, further resources and active listening questions over on our website: Who do we think we are?

    51 min
  8. S3 E8 Fortress Britain?

    EPISODE 8

    S3 E8 Fortress Britain?

    What’s Brexit got to do with the ‘small boats’ crisis? What does racialised border violence in the Channel tell us about 'Global Britain’? And what can we learn about the UK’s approach to its borders from the Hong Kong BN(O) and Ukrainian visas? We discuss all of this and more as we turn a lens onto Fortress Britain.   Elena Zambelli explains what we mean when we talk about migrants’ irregularisation. We’re joined by Arshad Isakjee and Thom Davies talk about their research on the racialised border violence enacted by Fortress Europe and why we need to turn our attention to how this relates to the EU’s liberal values. And Nando and Michaela turn the lens back onto UK and its post-Brexit borders as they discuss the new suite of ‘safe and legal (humanitarian) routes’, and what these signal about the future of asylum within and beyond the UK.  You can access the full transcripts for each episode over on our website Who do we think we are?

    55 min
  9. S3 E9 (Not so) safe routes

    EPISODE 9

    S3 E9 (Not so) safe routes

    What are the UK Government’s ‘safe and legal routes’? How do these relate to ‘stop the boats’, the Rwanda Plan, and the curtailment of asylum as laid out in the 1951 Refugee Convention? What can we learn from listening to the Hong Kongers and Ukrainians beneficiaries of these humanitarian visas? And what if these routes are not so safe after all?    In this episode we explore the UK’s safe and legal (humanitarian routes). Elena Zambelli explains what ‘asylum’ is, looking its history, scope and challenges to these international protections since 2015 ‘refugee crisis.’ Fizza Qureshi, CEO of the Migrants’ Rights Network, board member of Migrants at Work and of the honorary advisory committee for the Black Europeans, joins us to offer a critical overview of the UK’s immigration and asylum reforms over the past decade. Asking what this tells us about migrants’ rights, she highlights how these reforms impact disproportionately on brown and black migrants who try to make the UK their homes. And co-hosts Nando Sigona and Michaela Benson consider the ongoing contestations surrounding the figure of the ‘refugee’ as well as the asylum system as a whole. They reflect on how beneficiaries of the Hong Kong BN(O) and Ukraine visa schemes experience these humanitarian visas, and what we can learn from them about the limits of these.   You can access the full transcripts for the episode, further resources and active listening questions over on our website: Who do we think we are?

    55 min
  10. S3 E10 Migration and the making of Global Britain

    EPISODE 10

    S3 E10 Migration and the making of Global Britain

    What’s the significance of migration for the making of ‘Global Britain’? And what are the theoretical and conceptual tools that can help to unpack this question? In this episode, we turn our attention to the value of racial capitalism for understanding migration to and from the UK after Brexit. Elena Zambelli explains what we mean when we talk about ‘Global Britain,’ its political trajectory, and the role of coloniality within it. Ida Danewid, Lecturer in Gender and Global Political Economy at the University of Sussex joins us to offer insights into the relationship between racial capitalism, migration and borders. As she highlights, mobility controls produce the exploitable labour force necessary for capitalist accumulation and how those migrantized resist state violence. And co-hosts Nando Sigona and Michaela Benson consider what a racial capitalism lens adds to understandings of the UK's new suite of humanitarian visas, and more broadly to the role of migration in the making of Global Britain.  You can access the full transcripts for the episode, further resources and active listening questions over on our website: Who do we think we are?

    53 min

  11. BONUS

    BONUS Interview with Elspeth Guild

    This bonus episode features the full length recording of Elspeth Guild, legal scholar and counsel and our guest in Season 3 Episode 2, offering deep insights into the development of the EU's free movement regime, from its early form as a structure supporting the mobility of workers to its current form linked to EU citizenship. She reflects on the conditions that led to its introduction, how it's understood by governments, but also those who have taken up the opportunities it offers, as well as how is sits in the broader context of Fortress Europe and the ongoing politicisation of asylum.

    40 min
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From Brexit and the COVID-19 pandemic, to the Windrush deportation scandal citizenship and the responsibilities of the UK government to the people of Hong Kong, it seems that citizenship and migration in Britain are never far from the headlines. Who do we think we are? explores all of this and more. Join Professor Michaela Benson and her guests as they debunk taken-for-granted understandings of who is a citizen and who is a migrant in Britain today.

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    Professor Michaela Benson
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