30 episodes

Music Business Worldwide (MBW) is the leading information and jobs service for the global music industry. It publishes two podcasts: The weekly series, Talking Trends – which dives behind the biggest headlines in the music industry – as well as The MBW Podcast, which sees us interview some of the leading figures in the global business.

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Music Business Worldwide (MBW) is the leading information and jobs service for the global music industry. It publishes two podcasts: The weekly series, Talking Trends – which dives behind the biggest headlines in the music industry – as well as The MBW Podcast, which sees us interview some of the leading figures in the global business.

    Spotify vs. Songwriters (again)... and a 'likely' legal fight

    Spotify vs. Songwriters (again)... and a 'likely' legal fight

    On this Music Business Worldwide podcast, MBW founder Tim Ingham is joined by David Israelite, the President and CEO of the National Music Publishers' Association.

    We probably don't need to ask you to guess which particular controversial topic Israelite and Ingham discuss.

    Earlier this month, Spotify announced that it was changing the way it calculates mechanical royalty payments for songwriters and publishers in the US.

    Spotify has re-categorized its Premium subscription tiers in the States as 'bundles,' enabling it to pay out a lesser mechanical royalty rate to songwriters than it would if said Premium tiers were classified as pure music services.

    Spotify believes it is entitled to re-categorize these tiers as 'bundles' due to the fact that SPOT now offers access to music plus audiobooks.

    The idea that 'bundled' services should be entitled to a lower mechanical royalty rate (vs. standard music subscription services) was enshrined in the so-called 'CRB IV' agreement/settlement between publishers and Spotify in the States, signed in 2022, and covering the years 2023-2027.

    As David Israelite explains on this podcast, the NMPA is currently considering legal action against Spotify that would seek to undo the newly-lowered 'bundle' mechanical royalty rate on the service.

    This isn't the first time that Spotify and songwriters have butted heads, of course: In 2019, the US Copyright Royalty Board (CRB) decreed that Spotify and other streaming services needed to increase the headline mechanical royalty rates they paid publishers and songwriters in the US for the period covering 2018-2022.

    That decision from the CRB (in the so-called 'CRB III' process) followed a campaign of lobbying and general legal cajoling from the NMPA, on behalf of songwriters and publishers.

    Spotify (and Amazon) subsequently appealed this ('CRB III') ruling, attempting to drive down the mechanical royalty rate they paid songwriters under US law.

    The CRB, though, stood firm – and told the streamers they must increase their rate.

    Now, with its 'bundle' reclassification under 'CRB IV', Spotify is once again attempting to push down the percentage of its revenue that it must, by law, pay to songwriters and publishers in its biggest market.

    Will Spotify ultimately get away with it? Stay tuned.

    As Israelite confirms on this podcast: "This will likely end up in a legal conflict..."
    Music Business Worldwide's Podcasts are supported by Voly Entertainment (previously known as Voly Music).

    • 31 min
    Spotify's sneaky songwriter pay move and Blackstone vs. Concord: Talking Trends

    Spotify's sneaky songwriter pay move and Blackstone vs. Concord: Talking Trends

    On this episode of Music Business Worldwide's Talking Trends, MBW founder, Tim Ingham, is once again joined by Charlie D'Atri, to discuss two key recent headlines from the world of entertainment: 

    (1) A battle between Concord and financial giant Blackstone to acquire Hipgnosis Songs Fund – the UK-listed bundle of music rights accumulated by Merck Mercuriadis; 

    (2) Spotify's decision to re-categorize its Premium subscription tiers as 'bundles' – including audiobooks – that will materially lessen the royalty rate paid to songwriters in the US.

    People and companies mentioned on this Talking Trends podcast include: Spotify, Daniel Ek, Blackstone, Merck Mercuriadis, Concord, NMPA, David Israelite, EQT, Shot Tower Capital, BMG, Citrin Cooperman, and more. 
    Music Business Worldwide's Podcasts are supported by Voly Entertainment (previously known as Voly Music).

    • 24 min
    Taylor Swift x TikTok and artist visibility on Spotify: Talking Trends

    Taylor Swift x TikTok and artist visibility on Spotify: Talking Trends

    On this episode of Music Business Worldwide's Talking Trends, MBW founder, Tim Ingham, is joined by Charlie D'Atri, to discuss two key recent headlines from the world of entertainment: 

    (1) Criticism of Spotify from non-superstar artists who say the platform isn't paying them a fair amount in royalties; (2) Taylor Swift unilaterally putting her recorded music back on TikTok despite her record company, Universal Music Group, continuing to refuse to license the service.

    People and companies mentioned on this Talking Trends podcast include: Universal Music Group, Spotify, Daniel Ek, Sir Lucian Grainge, Stem, Milana Rabkin-Lewis, Virgin Music Group, Beggars Group, Bad Bunny, TikTok, HYBE, Scooter Braun, WeVerse, Meta.
    Music Business Worldwide's Podcasts are supported by Voly Entertainment (previously known as Voly Music).
    Music Business Worldwide's Podcasts are supported by Voly Entertainment (previously known as Voly Music).

    • 24 min
    ‘When artists say they want to be independent, what they really mean is they want to be autonomous.'

    ‘When artists say they want to be independent, what they really mean is they want to be autonomous.'

    On the latest Music Business Worldwide podcast, MBW founder Tim Ingham is joined by Milana Rabkin Lewis, the founder and CEO of Los Angeles-based Stem, a distribution and services company, including financial services for independent artists.

    Stem has had a big 12 months. A major highlight arrived last summer when the company announced it had secured a $250 million credit agreement with Victory Park Capital, which has transformed the size and scope of artist advances that Stem can offer.

    For a firm that has grown used to seeing some of its biggest independent artists jump to major label deals, that $250 million raise is something of a game changer for Stem and Milana.

    Long-term listeners to MBW's podcasts may remember that this isn't Milana’s first time speaking to us. She last appeared on this podcast four years ago, just at the tip of the pandemic, and she volunteered a number of predictions about the music businesses in the years ahead, many of which have already come true, or at least partly come true.

    On this podcast, Milana and Tim discuss – with some agreement, but not always – several crucial topics in the music business right now, from TikTok versus Universal Music Group to artist-centric streaming royalties to artificial intelligence, and of course Stem, and why Milana truly believes she is building a music company fit for the future.
    Music Business Worldwide's Podcasts are supported by Voly Entertainment (previously known as Voly Music).

    • 45 min
    BMI's songwriter payout and Universal's investment into HYBE's WeVerse: Talking Trends

    BMI's songwriter payout and Universal's investment into HYBE's WeVerse: Talking Trends

    On this episode of Music Business Worldwide's Talking Trends, MBW founder, Tim Ingham, is joined once again by Charlie D'Atri, to discuss two key recent headlines from the world of entertainment: (1) BMI's $100 million payout to songwriters following its acquisition by New Mountain Capital; (2) Universal Music Group's investment into HYBE's 'superfan' app, WeVerse.

    People and companies mentioned on this Talking Trends podcast include: BMI, ASCAP, Google, Spotify, New Mountain Capital, BMG, Kobalt, Sony Music, Universal Music Group, Sir Lucian Grainge, HYBE, Scooter Braun, Shopify,  David Bianchi, Goldman Sachs, Live Nation, Ticketmaster, Vivendi, SeeTickets, WeVerse, and more.
    Music Business Worldwide's Podcasts are supported by Voly Entertainment (previously known as Voly Music).

    • 18 min
    Fortnite Festival and Spotify's $10k earners: Talking Trends

    Fortnite Festival and Spotify's $10k earners: Talking Trends

    On this episode of Music Business Worldwide's Talking Trends, MBW founder, Tim Ingham, is joined once again by Charlie D'Atri, to discuss two key recent headlines from the world of entertainment: (1) Fortnite's 'Festival', built by music gaming experts Harmonix, in which players can purchase music tracks via in-game store; (2) A stat from Spotify showing that over half the 66,000 artists who generated $10k+ on the platform in 2023 were based in countries where English is not the first language.

    People and companies mentioned on this Talking Trends podcast include: Epic Games, Harmonix, Meta, Mark Zuckerberg, Universal Music Group, Gabe Newell, Valve, Sony Music Group, Warner Music Group, Daniel Ek, Spotify, Luminate, Mavin Records, Believe, and Denis Ladegaillerie.
    Music Business Worldwide's Podcasts are supported by Voly Entertainment (previously known as Voly Music).

    • 18 min

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