It’s Not Always Black and White BBC Radio Stoke

Bongi and Matt return for a one off special episode, but that means you get the chance to meet their new four-legged arrival (and find out what Winston makes of him!)
Bongi flies solo in this episode to meet a group of black and Asian mums and talks about raising children in a predominately white community.
Hear about the challenges they faced in even setting up the 'Black Mums of Cheshire' and the day to day support their new found tribe gives them, in everything from hair to tackling racism in schools.
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Bongi and Matt talk racial micro aggressions, unity and English patriotism, plus when it comes to multi-cultural food, there’s nowhere like Britain.
They celebrate the progress of people re-educating themselves about the nuances when it comes to race, but wishes she didn't even need to talk about racism. But on the lighter side, can dogs be prejudiced?
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Bongi and Matt get personal in this episode, talking about love, sex and relationships. They’re more honest and open than ever, even if Matt thinks Bongi is lying about her lingerie.
Truth be told, and her sister who joins the conversation from South Africa agrees, she’s more likely to be found in a onesie than stockings!
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Bongi opens up about her own mental health and how hard she has found the last two years, sharing her experiences of racism and heart-breaking personal loss.
Matt admits he's usually level headed but the pandemic and lockdown have been tough on his mental health, but both are thankful for Winston for keeping them going.
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Bongi and Matt reveal just how spoilt their 5 year old pug Winston is, what Bongi’s family in South Africa think of their pampering ways and how Winston helps lift things when the going gets tough.
The couple open up about how Winston's pulled them through the hardest times in lockdown and discuss if it's set a precedent to the type of parents they'll be.
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Bongi is a Christian and Matt is agnostic. In this episode they talk about their differing views when it comes to faith, what part religion will play in their future children’s lives and why Bongi likes to pray with their 5-year-old pug Winston.
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