Lament Configuration Julia Gfrörer & Gretchen Felker-Martin

In which we answer listener questions about patron saints, fictional meals, and more.

Gretchen and Julia talk character design, ambient mermaid music, and creative discipline.

Why cheap art (yes, again!), our favorite torture scenes, and which one of us is which Mantle brother.

We talk about "bad" sex writing and what people are revealing about their relationship to sex when they titter at anything more outlandish than missionary. Excerpts read from The Virgin Suicides, Smilla's Sense of Snow, Lolita, and The Name of the Rose.

On the merits of indie publishing, loved ones with terrible taste, and refusing the red pill.

On Manhunt, transmisogyny, pushing through shame, and the fallacy of "good" and "bad" ideas in making art.