Based Camp | Simone & Malcolm Collins

~0.004% of NYCers Commit 33% of Crime

Join Simone and the host as they delve into a detailed discussion on a fascinating thread about crime statistics shared by their friend, Cremieux. The episode focuses on how a small percentage of individuals are responsible for a vast majority of crimes, illustrated by examples such as shoplifting in New York City. They also discuss the broader implications of these statistics, including potential solutions, the effectiveness of three-strikes laws, and the controversial topic of genetic predispositions to criminal behavior. Additionally, they touch on the idea of penal colonies and the execution of repeat offenders. The episode takes a complex look at criminality, its impact on society, and explores both historical and modern-day enforcement strategies.

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Malcolm Collins: Simone, I'm excited to be here with you today. Today we're going to be talking about a interesting thread by a personal in person friend of ours. A guy we quite like Cremieux it was on crime statistics and it focused on how very few people commit the vast majority of crimes.

Simone Collins: Oh yes.

Malcolm Collins: We had talked about this in our episode on police, but I wanted to have a dedicated episode on this particular subject because I find it interesting and I think he provides even more color than we had before. So I am going to go over his statistics and I'm going to give you a chance to react to them and I'm going to provide some additional information.

Simone Collins: Three cheers for Camille. I love him.

Malcolm Collins: All right. New York storefront businesses are already weathering inflation and uneven recovery from the coronavirus pandemic are also contending With what the police say is a dramatic increase in shoplifting, but statistics reveal a startling reality.

A relative handful of shoplifters are responsible for an outside percentage of retail crime. Nearly a third of [00:01:00] all shoplifting arrests in New York City last year were just 327 people. Police say collectively they were arrested more than 6, 000 times. So just 327 people. Rusted over 6, 000 times. So, for example, that means in New York, 0.

00385 percent of New York's population is responsible for 33 percent of the shoplifting in the city. Now, if you are a sane person, you might be thinking, Why aren't those people in jail always, but it gets worse than that.

This isn't unprecedented by any means. The number of burglaries in ster plummeted after three minute, died in a car crash. And I'm gonna put an image on screen here, an article about this. It actually took me a bit to find how much it went down. It went down by from 2019 to 2023 by 43%. Ah, yikes. [00:02:00] And these, by the way, are three white looking bro guys.

So if you're like reading this and you're like, oh, this is like a black person thing or a Mexican thing. No, it's, you know, depending on where you're living. It's just a criminality thing.

Simone Collins: Yeah. Well, it seems to be when people make this their careers. Then they just keep especially if they discover that they can make it their career kind of sustainably And they don't really get in that much trouble for it of course, they're incentivized to keep going because it's easier than working and they're probably in some kind of debt hole or Crime hole that they can't get out of

Malcolm Collins: I disagree that doesn't appear to be what's happening It appears to be mostly genetic.

We'll get to that in a second.

Simone Collins: Oh, no

Malcolm Collins: So, Cycling UK hails quote unquote clever policing after bait bicycle used to track down 130, 000 pounds of bike theft a bike theft gang stole in one shift.

Local bike theft fell 90 percent following the arrest with 11 people now sentenced. [00:03:00] So arresting 11 people. Dropped bike theft in one British town by 90 percent Okay, yikes And this is where like there's a progressive meme of that guy who's like, well, this guy stole my bike But you know net the world's probably happier now because he needed the bike more than I did and you know Progressive brain rot of assuming the stabber is the victim and not the stabby if not having a sane mind and understanding that the vast majority of crimes are done by very, very few people who are career criminals and who are working for other career criminals with that money generally going.

Downstream to like big crime syndicates that are using it to terrorize grannies in Mexico like no nobody is benefiting from your bike being stolen. In fact, it's making

Simone Collins: things worse Yeah

Malcolm Collins: better off if whoever stole your bike on average If a bike thief was [00:04:00] forced to kneel and execute it on the spot, the world would be better off.

There would be less pain and there would be less suffering.

Simone Collins: Yeah. Emma looks that way, yeah. I mean, from these stats, that's, oh, gosh, this is terrible.

Malcolm Collins: I'm not saying we need to start executing everyone who commits a crime. I'm just saying, think about it. Just saying, please

Simone Collins: consider it.

Malcolm Collins: That's all you're saying.

Alright, here's where It gets concerning here.

Simone Collins: Okay, like it's not already immensely concerning.

Malcolm Collins: Oh, no, no, no, no, no. This is a home. I'm just gonna have a drink here. So you could because we're gonna be talking about adoption studies.

Simone Collins: No, no,

Malcolm Collins: 1, 1 percent of adoptees whose biological parents had 3 or more offenses were responsible for 30 percent of convictions among adoptees. The 1 percent of adoptees whose parents had 3 or more convictions. We're responsible for 30 percent of the offenses among [00:05:00] adoptees. If you stopped people with three or more convictions from having kids, the number of crimes in this country would drop.

I'm not saying that's really danger town. This is a statistical fact. I am saying we shouldn't do this. That would be a horrible, horrifying thing to do. I'm just putting out the statistics. Say that the 1 percent of adoptees whose parents had committed three or more crimes committed over 30 percent of the crimes.

Simone Collins: Wee woo, wee woo! Danger! Oh, God! They tried this! The PR disaster was It's not good for PR, no. This is so bad for PR! This is so bad!

Malcolm Collins: Ah! Yeah. I don't, yeah, not a great PR wise, but if you, if you want to see how bad this would be here, I'm going to [00:06:00] show a, a homicide rate

Simone Collins: graph. Sure. Show me the homicide rate graph.

Well, so this is

Malcolm Collins: a homicide rate for the rate of criminality graph. So, what it looks at is the homicide rate. , so the homicide rate for people who've been arrested of other crimes. Okay. And the homicide rate of non-criminals. Okay. If you look at non-criminals, the rate hovers around like two to 3%. If you look at the percent of people who've been convicted of other crimes, it's like between 10 and 7%.

Simone Collins: No, because of course it is.

Of course it is, of course. Yeah. You are

Malcolm Collins: saving lives by executing that bike theft.

Simone Collins: Yeah. This is really. It's making me reconsider. So I grew up in California where there was something called a three strikes law that was largely condemned. I'm going to put huge numbers of people in jail who quite frankly should not have been in jail.

And I think a lot of that is because they were sorry. There we go. [00:07:00] I think a lot of that is because they were jailed for drug charges, like just possessing marijuana. Like that was enough for them to get three strikes and then just be in jail forever, which is super dumb. But now when I look at the, the level of.

committing crimes again and again, when they're damaging crimes, crimes that are like possessing marijuana, dude, like this person's just chilling out for the most part. Okay. But then when you're shoplifting, when you're committing burglary, when you're committing an aggravated assault, when you are God forbid killing someone that's very different.

That's where I feel like three strikes laws suddenly make a lot of sense because this is ultimately who's committing all the crimes. And it's clear that if someone has committed a crime twice, They're probably within that really small percentage of the population that's just going to keep doing it and really, really, really hurting society.

Wow. I mean, it just makes so much sense. And now I'm getting really frustrated that the three strikes law was so poorly executed in California, which is probably [00:08:00]

Malcolm Collins: minor drug offenses instead of like thefts. Of

Simone Collins: course, that's not a good idea. Like who thought that was a good idea. And now anyone hears three strikes,

Malcolm Collins: like that's a bad idea.

And Democrats, Newspeak thought it was a good idea. But hold on, remember who was, who was, who was your head? No, sorry. Who was the head of your cops and legal department during that period? It was Kamala Harris. , someone who has brought, when they said, Oh, you know, you have, you smoked marijuana privately.

This is someone who jailed thousands of people, tens of thousands of people for marijuana charges. She laughed when