The Thinking Practitioner Til Luchau & Whitney Lowe

🎙️This episode of the Thinking Practitioner podcast features an in-depth interview with Tom Myers, author of the influential book Anatomy Trains. Host Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe discuss Tom's bodywork background, and how his goal of providing a holistic framework for understanding the body's fascial connections lead to the development of his "Anatomy Trains" concept. They explore Ida Rolf's legacy and influence on developing a model of structural integration, and Tom shares his evolving views on topics like exercise, fascia, and the potential for sustainable posture changes. The interview provides fascinating perspectives on the history and future of bodywork models, and listeners will enjoy learning about Tom's current projects (as well as Til Luchau's contributions to his upcoming Anatomy Trains summer program). 🔍🗣️👥🔊
Watch the video and get the full transcript of their conversation on Til or Whitney's sites: 
Til Luchau’s Advanced-Trainings.com 
Whitney Lowe’s Academy of Clinical Massage
Key Points in the Podcast

[0:00-10:00] - Til Luchau interviews Tom Myers about his background and experience in bodywork. They discuss Tom's origins in the field and how he was influenced by teachers like Ida Rolf.


[10:00-20:00] - Tom explains the development of the "Anatomy Trains" concept and how it provided a holistic framework for understanding fascial connections. He shares Ida Rolf's impact on developing structural integration models.

[20:00-30:00] - The conversation explores evolving views on exercise, fascia, and the potential for sustainable posture changes. Tom discusses insights from his long career in hands-on practice.
[30:00-40:00] - Whitney Lowe asks questions about fascial contractility and the role of myofibroblasts. Tom provides perspectives on fascia and potential causes of shortening.
[40:00-50:00] - Tom's views on exercise evolution are discussed, along with the importance of movement education. He emphasizes different types of fascial elasticity.
[50:00-1:00:00] - The importance of the fascial system, current projects, and upcoming teaching opportunities are covered. The podcast concludes with thanks to sponsor Books of Discovery.
Resources:

Tom Myers' Anatomy Trains site
Til Luchau at Anatomy Trains Summer Program

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Academy of Clinical Massage: Grab Whitney's valuable Assessment Cheat Sheet for free at: academyofclinicalmassage.comcheatsheet
About Whitney Lowe  |  About Til Luchau  |  Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

🎙️Two new studies are re-opening the age-old discussion about whether massage is safe with clients with cancer. Til and Whitney review the new evidence, the implications, and discuss best practices with expert guests Cathy Ryan and Erika Slocum. 🔍🗣️👥🔊
Watch the video and get the full transcript of their conversation on Til or Whitney's sites: 
Til Luchau’s Advanced-Trainings.com 
Whitney Lowe’s Academy of Clinical Massage
Key Points in the Podcast
Introduction to The Thinking Practitioner Podcast (00:00-01:30)
The history of recommendations about massage and cancer (01:30-07:30)
The benefits of massage therapy for people with cancer (07:30-12:30)
The possible effects of massage on tumor sites (12:30-17:49)
Discussing Freidl study on massage and tumor cells migration (17:49-23:00)
Discussing Karda study on massage and osteosarcoma progression (23:00-30:00)
Red flags and referrals for potential cancer screening (30:00-37:00)
The importance of communication and partnership with clients (37:00-41:00)
Resources for further information on massage and cancer (41:00-45:00)
Closing remarks and contact information for the guests (45:00-47:30)
Resources:
[Dr. Peter Friedl's study is pending publication, but his 2016 presentation on this topic is at 9:45 here]
Karda, I.W.A.M., Wan Ismail, W.F. & Kamal, A.F. Massage manipulation and progression of osteosarcoma, does it really correlate: a combination of prospective and retrospective cohort study. Sci Rep 13, 18541 (2023). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-023-45808-7 https://rdcu.be/dCD6i 
Guest recommendations:
Training and support: Healwell, Tracy Walton, Gayle MacDonald
Massage therapy for post-mastectomy, top surgery & oncology support: Eryn Price RMT
S4OM: Society for Oncology Massage
Book: Oncology Massage – An Integrative Approach to Cancer Care - Janet Penny & Rebecca Sturgeon
Article: Could Massage Therapy Promote CANCER Metastasis?
Cathy Ryan: cryanrmt@gmail.com
Ericka Slocum: erika.slocum@gmail.com 

Sponsor Offers:
Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout at booksofdiscovery.com.
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Academy of Clinical Massage: Grab Whitney's valuable Assessment Cheat Sheet for free at: academyofclinicalmassage.comcheatsheet
About Whitney Lowe  |  About Til Luchau  |  Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

🎙️When we treat our client’s “problems,” are we really helping them? Or, would a more fundamental reframe yield better results? How do we help our clients (and ourselves) shift the usual viewpoints about pain, injury, and recovery? Whitney and Til catch up with physiotherapist and chiropractor Greg Lehman about the evolution of his influential “Reconciling Biomechanics with Pain Science” course, and his thinking on specifics like SI Joint pain, “flat arches,” and more. 🔍🗣️👥🔊
Watch the video and get the full transcript of their conversation on Til or Whitney's sites: 
Til Luchau’s Advanced-Trainings.com 
Whitney Lowe’s Academy of Clinical Massage
Key Points in the Podcast
- Introduction to The Thinking Practitioner Podcast (0:00)- Opening Sponsor: ABMP (1:00)- Introduction of Greg Lehman (2:00)- Greg's background and expertise (3:00)- Greg's approach to reading and translating research (5:00)- The concept of Movement Optimism (7:00)- Shifting from a pessimistic view of the body to a more optimistic view (9:00)- Explaining pain to patients (11:00)- The importance of building healthy systems and ecosystems (13:00)- The fundamentals of treating people with pain (15:00)- The role of faulty firing patterns in muscles (17:00)- The concept of alignment and its importance (19:00)- The role of alignment in pain and function (21:00)- The debate between different perspectives in the field (23:00)- The importance of individualized care and patient-centered approaches (25:00)- The role of biomechanics in treating pain (27:00)- The influence of research on clinical practice (29:00)- The overselling of the need to stay updated on research (31:00)- The importance of fundamentals and common threads in treatment (33:00)- Greg's eBook "Recovery Strategies" (35:00)- Greg's views on flat feet and when they matter (37:00)- The limitations of isolating variables in research (39:00)- The need for humility and openness in the field (41:00)- Greg's upcoming teaching schedule and website (43:00)- Conclusion and thanks (45:00)
Resources:
Greg Lehman’s free workbook and site
Greg’s Movement Optimism podcast
Greg’s osteoarthritis site 
Sponsor Offers:
Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout at booksofdiscovery.com.
ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking. 
Advanced-Trainings: try a month of the amazing A-T Subscription free by entering “thinking” at checkout at a-t.tv/subscriptions/.
Academy of Clinical Massage: Grab Whitney's valuable Assessment Cheat Sheet for free at: academyofclinicalmassage.comcheatsheet

About Whitney Lowe  |  About Til Luchau  |  Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

🎙️It's no exaggeration to say that in the history of massage and bodywork, there was "before Esalen," and "after Esalen." Til & Whitney talk to Peggy Horan (senior Esalen Massage teacher) and her daughter Lucia (who grew up at Esalen) about their stories, the Esalen Institute, and its influence on how massage and bodywork are practiced and taught today. 🔍🗣️👥🔊
Watch the video and get the full transcript of their conversation on Til or Whitney's sites: 
Til Luchau’s Advanced-Trainings.com 
Whitney Lowe’s Academy of Clinical Massage
Key Points in the Podcast
- Introduction and background on Esalen Institute (0:00-5:30)- Peggy Horan's experience and role at Esalen (5:30-12:00)- Lucia's experience and role at Esalen (12:00-18:00)- The influence of Esalen on the massage and bodywork field (18:00-23:00)- Changes in the practice of Esalen Massage over time (23:00-28:00)- The importance of boundaries and trauma-informed practices in massage (28:00-34:00)- The cultural relevance of Esalen Massage in the digital age (34:00-38:00)- The future of Esalen Massage and its impact on personal development (38:00-42:00)- Peggy Horan and Lucia Drummond's contact information (42:00-43:00)- Closing remarks and sponsor information (43:00-48:00)
Resources:
Peggy Horan's site
Lucia Horan's site
Video: Esalen's Massage Legacy: Peggy Horan
Sponsor Offers:
Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout at booksofdiscovery.com.
ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking. 
Advanced-Trainings: try a month of the amazing A-T Subscription free by entering “thinking” at checkout at a-t.tv/subscriptions/.
Academy of Clinical Massage: Grab Whitney's valuable Assessment Cheat Sheet for free at: academyofclinicalmassage.comcheatsheet

About Whitney Lowe  |  About Til Luchau  |  Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

🎙️ Ten years ago, massage therapist Rajam Roose was curious about pain science. Seeing a need for an interdisciplinary conference focusing on the clinical applications of this emerging field, and took a leap and created what has become a regular event. The San Diego Pain Summit has continued to grow, and gets outstanding reviews from the many people, from so many different fields, that it brings together each year. 🔍🗣️👥🔊
Watch the video and get the full transcript of their conversation on Til or Whitney's sites: 
Til Luchau’s Advanced-Trainings.com 
Whitney Lowe’s Academy of Clinical Massage
Key Points in the Podcast
Introduction and background of Rajam Roose (0:00-4:00)
How Rajam Roose started the San Diego Pain Summit (4:00-9:00)
The focus of the San Diego Pain Summit on topics not typically covered in other conferences (9:00-14:00)
The interdisciplinary nature of the summit and the importance of collaboration between different professions (14:00-19:00)
Challenges faced by the summit, including limited resources and the need for nonprofit status (19:00-25:00)
The motivation behind organizing the summit and the passion for sharing important information (25:00-29:00)
The availability of past summit talks on the San Diego Pain Summit YouTube channel (29:00-32:00)
The upcoming San Diego Pain Summit in March 2024 and the changes in format (32:00-36:00)
Trends and changes in pain science education observed through the summit (36:00-40:00)
How to find more information about the San Diego Pain Summit (40:00-43:00)
Closing remarks and contact information (43:00-46:00)
Resources:
San Diego Pain Summit
SDPS YouTube Channel 
Sponsor Offers:
Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout at booksofdiscovery.com.
ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking. 
Advanced-Trainings: try a month of the amazing A-T Subscription free by entering “thinking” at checkout at a-t.tv/subscriptions/.
Academy of Clinical Massage: Grab Whitney's valuable Assessment Cheat Sheet for free at: academyofclinicalmassage.comcheatsheet

About Whitney Lowe  |  About Til Luchau  |  Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

🎙️Twelve years ago, Lorimer Moseley’s TEDx talk “Why Things Hurt” helped to catalyze profound changes in how pain is conceptualized, in our field and in many others. If we think about pain as protection, rather than as damage, it changes how we explain the improvements we see in hands-on work. Professor Moseley joins Til and Whitney to update us on his thinking, and to offer bodyworks and massage therapists practical advice on working with our clients with pain.🔍🗣️👥🔊
Watch the video and get the full transcript of their conversation on Til or Whitney's sites: 
Til Luchau’s Advanced-Trainings.com 
Whitney Lowe’s Academy of Clinical Massage
 
Key Points in the Podcast
Introduction to The Thinking Practitioner Podcast (0:00)  
Sponsorship by Books of Discovery (1:30)
Introduction of Lorimer Moseley (3:00) 
Lorimer Moseley's TEDx talk and its impact (6:00)
Description of pain to those experiencing chronic pain (9:00)
Historical context of pain education (13:00)
Three historical phases of pain education evolution:  (15:30)
ancient pain education, 
old school pain education, and 
current pain science education

 
Four essential pain facts: (19:30)
pain protects us and promotes healing, 
persistent pain is also a protective function, 
many factors can influence pain, and 
therefore, there are many ways to reduce pain and recover. 
Challenges of explaining complex concepts in a short period of time (26:00)
Importance of validation and empathy in pain education (30:30)
Role of optimism and encouragement in pain education (34:30)
Lorimer Moseley's upcoming courses in North America (39:00)
Sponsorship by ABMP (42:00)
Closing remarks and contact information (43:30)
Resources:
“Why Things Hurt” TEDx talk
Pain Matters podcast
Lorimer Moseley’s North American tour: noigroup.com
Lorimer Moseley’s charity: painrevolution.org
Sponsor Offers:
Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout at booksofdiscovery.com.
ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking. 
Advanced-Trainings: try a month of the amazing A-T Subscription free by entering “thinking” at checkout at a-t.tv/subscriptions/.
Academy of Clinical Massage: Grab Whitney's valuable Assessment Cheat Sheet for free at: academyofclinicalmassage.comcheatsheet

About Whitney Lowe  |  About Til Luchau  |  Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)