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152: Rust and Elixir Play Great Together Thinking Elixir Podcast

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Rust is a popular lower level language and the community has created a number of libraries to solve different problems. We talk with Jason Stiebs, a Phoenix Core Team member, about how Elixir and Rust can play well together. Jason wrote an article about how he leveraged an image processing library available in Rust by using the Elixir Rustler package. We talk about how Rustler works through NIFs, and we learn how easy using Rustler has become. It's great to understand that we have a powerful escape hatch like Rustler for those times we need it. We also get Jason’s insights into the Phoenix project and talk about the importance of improving the developer experience when a LiveView crashes and more!


Show Notes online - http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/152


Elixir Community News



https://www.erlang.org/news/164 – Erlang OTP 26 Final was released
https://www.erlang.org/blog/otp-26-highlights/
https://www.erlang.org/blog/otp-26-highlights/#improvements-of-maps – Improvements to Maps
https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/releases/tag/v1.14.4 – When Elixir 1.14.4 was released, it included the ability to request sorted map keys when inspecting.
https://www.erlang.org/blog/otp-26-highlights/#incremental-mode-for-dialyzer – Incremental mode for Dialyzer
https://erlangforums.com/t/in-erlang-otp-27-0-0-will-no-longer-be-exactly-equal-to-0-0/2586 – Erlang OTP 27 where +0.0 will no longer be exactly equal to -0.0.
https://felt.com/blog/startup-and-shutdown-for-phoenix-applications – Jason Axelson wrote an article about doing a “Graceful Startup and Shutdown for Phoenix Applications” over on the Felt blog.
https://smartlogic.io/podcast/elixir-wizards/s10-e08-jose-valim-future-elixir-ecosystem/ – José Valim was on the Elixir Wizards podcast talking about the future development of Elixir
https://twitter.com/josevalim/status/1658160088354369546 – José Valim was asking for feedback on the "Optional Syntax Sheet" documentation.
https://elixir-lang.org/getting-started/optional-syntax.html – Optional syntax sheet in the Elixir Getting Started docs
https://twitter.com/sean_moriarity/status/1648466250828484609 – LLaMa support added to Nx and Bumblebee by Sean Moriarity
https://twitter.com/FrerichRaabe/status/1648696436266004480 – Nicely summarizing Tweet that frames the LLaMa work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2fDjl2hoAk – ElixirConf EU keynote video titled “Using Elixir & Phoenix To Build A City Software Infrastructure”
https://www.empex.co/new-york – Empex NYC - use code THINKING to get $100 of your ticket
https://www.lambdadays.org/lambdadays2023 – LambdaDays functional programming conference on 5-6 June 2023 in Kraków Poland
https://twitter.com/josevalim/status/1658159252773453824 – José Valim will speak about meta-programmable functional notebooks with Livebook


Do you have some Elixir news to share? Tell us at @ThinkingElixir or email at show@thinkingelixir.com


Discussion Resources



https://fly.io/phoenix-files/elixir-and-rust-is-a-good-mix/ – Elixir and Rust Is a Good Mix
https://youtu.be/FADQAnq0RpA?t=3636 – Chris McCord specifically calling out Jason for advocating for a better DX around LiveView errors.
https://github.com/rusterlium/rustler
https://discord.com/blog/using-rust-to-scale-elixir-for-11-million-concurrent-users
https://news.livebook.dev/label/45764
https://fly.io/phoenix-files/tensors-and-nx-are-not-just-for-machine-learning/


Guest Information



https://twitter.com/peregrine – on Twitter
https://github.com/jeregrine/ – on Github
https://merveilles.town/@peregrine – on Fediverse
mailto:jason@fly.io – Email


Find us online



Message the show - @ThinkingElixir
Message the show on Fediverse - @ThinkingElixir@genserver.social
Email the show - show@thinkingelixir.com
Mark Ericksen - @brainlid
Mark Ericksen on Fediverse - @brainlid@genserver.social
David Bernheisel - @bernheisel
David Bernheisel on Fediverse - @dbern@genserver.social
Cade Ward - @cadebward
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Rust is a popular lower level language and the community has created a number of libraries to solve different problems. We talk with Jason Stiebs, a Phoenix Core Team member, about how Elixir and Rust can play well together. Jason wrote an article about how he leveraged an image processing library available in Rust by using the Elixir Rustler package. We talk about how Rustler works through NIFs, and we learn how easy using Rustler has become. It's great to understand that we have a powerful escape hatch like Rustler for those times we need it. We also get Jason’s insights into the Phoenix project and talk about the importance of improving the developer experience when a LiveView crashes and more!


Show Notes online - http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/152


Elixir Community News



https://www.erlang.org/news/164 – Erlang OTP 26 Final was released
https://www.erlang.org/blog/otp-26-highlights/
https://www.erlang.org/blog/otp-26-highlights/#improvements-of-maps – Improvements to Maps
https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/releases/tag/v1.14.4 – When Elixir 1.14.4 was released, it included the ability to request sorted map keys when inspecting.
https://www.erlang.org/blog/otp-26-highlights/#incremental-mode-for-dialyzer – Incremental mode for Dialyzer
https://erlangforums.com/t/in-erlang-otp-27-0-0-will-no-longer-be-exactly-equal-to-0-0/2586 – Erlang OTP 27 where +0.0 will no longer be exactly equal to -0.0.
https://felt.com/blog/startup-and-shutdown-for-phoenix-applications – Jason Axelson wrote an article about doing a “Graceful Startup and Shutdown for Phoenix Applications” over on the Felt blog.
https://smartlogic.io/podcast/elixir-wizards/s10-e08-jose-valim-future-elixir-ecosystem/ – José Valim was on the Elixir Wizards podcast talking about the future development of Elixir
https://twitter.com/josevalim/status/1658160088354369546 – José Valim was asking for feedback on the "Optional Syntax Sheet" documentation.
https://elixir-lang.org/getting-started/optional-syntax.html – Optional syntax sheet in the Elixir Getting Started docs
https://twitter.com/sean_moriarity/status/1648466250828484609 – LLaMa support added to Nx and Bumblebee by Sean Moriarity
https://twitter.com/FrerichRaabe/status/1648696436266004480 – Nicely summarizing Tweet that frames the LLaMa work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2fDjl2hoAk – ElixirConf EU keynote video titled “Using Elixir & Phoenix To Build A City Software Infrastructure”
https://www.empex.co/new-york – Empex NYC - use code THINKING to get $100 of your ticket
https://www.lambdadays.org/lambdadays2023 – LambdaDays functional programming conference on 5-6 June 2023 in Kraków Poland
https://twitter.com/josevalim/status/1658159252773453824 – José Valim will speak about meta-programmable functional notebooks with Livebook


Do you have some Elixir news to share? Tell us at @ThinkingElixir or email at show@thinkingelixir.com


Discussion Resources



https://fly.io/phoenix-files/elixir-and-rust-is-a-good-mix/ – Elixir and Rust Is a Good Mix
https://youtu.be/FADQAnq0RpA?t=3636 – Chris McCord specifically calling out Jason for advocating for a better DX around LiveView errors.
https://github.com/rusterlium/rustler
https://discord.com/blog/using-rust-to-scale-elixir-for-11-million-concurrent-users
https://news.livebook.dev/label/45764
https://fly.io/phoenix-files/tensors-and-nx-are-not-just-for-machine-learning/


Guest Information



https://twitter.com/peregrine – on Twitter
https://github.com/jeregrine/ – on Github
https://merveilles.town/@peregrine – on Fediverse
mailto:jason@fly.io – Email


Find us online



Message the show - @ThinkingElixir
Message the show on Fediverse - @ThinkingElixir@genserver.social
Email the show - show@thinkingelixir.com
Mark Ericksen - @brainlid
Mark Ericksen on Fediverse - @brainlid@genserver.social
David Bernheisel - @bernheisel
David Bernheisel on Fediverse - @dbern@genserver.social
Cade Ward - @cadebward
Ca

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