Activation Energy

17. Gabriel Thoumi (Responsible Alpha) on plastics and sustainability

I speak with Gabriel Thoumi of Responsible Alpha, a consultancy whose mission is to support businesses and communities in securing a low-carbon, sustainable, and equitable future.

  • (1:24) Production and consumption of plastic
  • (2:53) Plastic industry’s carbon budget
  • (3:59) Reconciling fact that plastic is useful in our society and economy with the fact that it is damaging to the environment
  • (8:35) What the plastic industry is doing to mitigate the plastic problem and the pressure companies feel to change their behavior
  • (11:58) The role of investors
  • (15:40) The role of governments
  • (20:25) Ramification of projected increase in demand for plastic
  • (25:43) New technologies
  • (31:11) Circularity and points of intervention
  • (36:51) Barriers to transitioning from linear to circular economy
  • (40:28) How transitioning to circular economy creates opportunities
  • (42:03) Short-term vs. long-term thinking